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 ~Ellis regarding Okie's story from Vol. 11 Iss. 15 titled UNTITLED

"Dorothy" may sound like a flapper and I'm sure she would have been had she been born in a timely manner, but, alas, she went to Greenbrier almost 40 years past the era [more]...
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Sadie! Sadie! Shady Pretty Lady In Waiting...

Vol 7, Iss 26 My name is Sadie. I am the newest addition to the Wagner family. AND... Lady in waiting to "The Duchess of Rose" (Top Dog of this Clan)!

I have heard a lot about this precious Pug from the NW Okie. I hope Duchess is looking forward to meeting me as much as I am looking forward to meeting, playing with her and her friends. I know they can teach me a bunch of things.

Before I forget -- so you can get to know a little about me. I was born 24 April 2005 in NW Oklahoma to Spring Creek Mugsey (Sire) and Ricks Sweet Sissy (Dam). I'm almost 10 weeks old. I am one of those short-nosed, snortin' & pantin' little black Chinese Pugs with a small, white marking on my chest. I love to play and be around humans. Did I mention that I am a very energetic & friendly puppy pug?

I don't know about this being shut in a roomy puppy cage when my human goes someplace. Even if Oakie does put these things she calls toys in there to occupy this Puppy Pug. BUT... I guess I will get used to it. Oh Yeah! I met my human about 9 days ago. AND... follow right under her footsteps every chance I get -- barely dodging each carefully placed footstep.

I will meet you all Sunday... especially, Duchess, Ruff and Daisy! View/Write Comments (count 3)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

NW Okie's Corner

Vol 7, Iss 23 Another COOL week in SW Colorado finds us traveling back from the '49 era of NW Oklahoma last week -- finding ourselves catching up with the present for a few minutes -- looking back to the early 1900's (1908-1912) in Woods County, Oklahoma with a brief glance into the 1950's and early 1980's.

BUT... Before we get "Back to the Future Past," we want to give you a hint of what you might find in our Mailbag & Link Corner below:

  • Alva High Reunion Class of '90, July 9, 2005
  • Blakemore's Grocery Did Exist next to B&B Cafe
  • POW buildings from Chickasha, OK & Lindsay Lodge #2351
  • Houma, Louisiana Murals
  • Dixie Sherman Hotel in Panama City, Florida
  • Memories of Alvin Paris, Kiwanis, Key Club and Washington DC of '49
  • 1910 Old Opera House Murder & Sandor James Vigg, County Attorney, Alva, OK
  • NW OkieLegacy Webshot Photos of "Share Bros. Mural" - Compliment from another mural artist in Oregon.
A friend sent me an invite to try this NEW Gmail that is powered by Google. So... I took him up on his invite. NOW... I am trying out another NEW Email You might add this Email address to your address books for this NW Okie. I will probably be using this alot while on the road between Colorado & Oklahoma. Gmail is a free, search-based webmail service that includes more than 2,000 megabytes (two gigabytes) of storage. When Gmail displays an email, it automatically shows all the replies to that email as well in the context of a conversation. There is even a Gmail Notifer that you can download and run in the background to let you know when you have Gmail. View/Write Comments (count 1)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Duchess Corner

Vol 7, Iss 17 Another week has passed! It is the last weekend of April, 2005 filled with April showers for some of us -- snow for the higher elevation mountain folks. Here in the Valley of SW Colorado things are greening up -- the birds are chirping, singing -- you can hear the gobbling of the turkeys in the early morning daylight hours.

We have had a wet week around here in the valley beginning on Monday. BUT... if you go up into the higher elevations -- mountains, you might catch a few inches of fresh snow that has melted about as fast as it accumulated this week. I am told that around 5 inches of snow had fallen in the mountains a few evenings ago -- overnight. Maybe Spring has sprung calendar-wise, BUT... not in the higher Rocky Mountains of Colorado!

Our travels this week take us back in time to 1947, NW Oklahoma via an aging, yellow newspaper dated 21 May 1947, The Alva Review-Courier. It was the Annual Graduate Edition 1947 -- listing 81 Seniors and their pictures from the Alva High School Class of '47. We have started scanning some of those photos and have a few of them put up on our OkieLegacy Photo Gallery - AHS '47.

We have more information about the Old Alva Golf & Country Club that was on the westside of Alva before the mid-1950s when the NEW Alva High school was built (1956). We know our grandpa Bill McGill played at that old golf & country club, but haven't located a picture of it yet. Maybe someone out there has a photo they would like to share with us. We also have a turn of the century cowboy photo that one of our readers sent us this week. You can see that old photo in the Mailbag Corner. AND... Yes! We have most of our PARIS / MCGILL / WAGNER Family data inputted into our family tree program. If some of our family stops by and can help us fill-in some missing/misplaced family information, we would love to hear from ALL of you. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

NW Okie's Journey

Vol 19, Iss 5 Have you ever heard of the term "Swat the Knockers?" This is what we found in The Wichita Beacon, dated 15 April 1909, Thursday, page 7: "Swat the Knocker." The Knocker wasn't numerous but he was awfully busy in Wichita. The Knocker didn't appreciate what local magnates had done for Wichita by getting it advanced to a higher league.

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This was the season of the year when the cheap knocker was abroad in the land. He was no more numerous in Wichita than elsewhere, in fact, he was very much outnumbered here, but he pokes his head up every once in a while for all that, and he generally made himself felt unless someone got angry and stepped on him.

The knocker was a man who liked people to think that he knew more about the great national game than anyone else. Of course, he only had to talk for a few minutes until everyone got next to the fact that he never had won any major league pennants, but he didn't know that and hence he kept on talking.

Occasionally, though, one would run across a knocker who was a little bit smoother than the general run of the fraternity. He may be a man who was a pretty good fellow other ways, and for that reason his words may carry more weight than most knocker's remarks do. Wichita had that kind, too. In fact, she had a small representation of each brand and color. Like the poor, they were always with us.

The knocker was always a great fan. He posed as a friend of the game, and only wishes that the home team was made up of better exponents of it. He could tell you a hundred different places where he could make a winner out of it, and a real baseball man can tell him in just about a minute how little he really could do. But the baseball man usually kept his mouth shut and let the knocker howl himself hoarse. Maybe it's the wrong course for the baseball man to pursue, as far as suppressing a nuisance was concerned, but it saved a lot of trouble for the moment. It was easier sometimes to walk away and let a knocker spout, than to take issue with him.

These remarks apply generally to every city that had baseball and, incidentally, to every city that had anything else worth while. The genus hit-'em-a-dab is found in every town, and it was almost as numerous in mid-season as it was in the gents spring time. Even a pennant winner never played quite as good a game as the knocker would had it play.

What few knockers Wichita had were pretty busy just now. They were working overtime, trying to convince people that Jack Holland didn't understand his business, and the Wichita was doomed to trail along so far behind in the Western league race, that the Enid team in the Western association last season would look like a pennant winner by comparison. They shake their heads sagely, and wring their hands mournfully, while they tell how sorry they are that Wichita hadn't a better team. They compare Roberts with Frank Chance, Hughes with Lajoie, Anderson with Hans Wagner, Richter and Westerzel with Bradley and Devlin or Morality and Tannehill, and insist that Pennell, Pettigrew, Middleton and Cole are not as good as Ty Cobb, Donlin, Fred Clarke and big Sam Crawford. They content that the team would be better with Addie Joss, Doc White, Cy Young, Mordical Brown, Orvie Overall and Wild Bill Donovan pitching for it, than it was with Clark, Shaner, Brenan, Bailey, Westcott, Swaim and Andrews working on the slab. They even go so far as to express a preference for John Kling and Billy Sullivan over Art Queisser, though most of them fall in line and consider "Buck" Weaver a fit candidate for a place on their team.

As to Holland - well, the fact that they were doing the talking shows who they would put in his place. Each one of them was just a little bit too modest to suggest the name of him who cold manage a team just right.

Every man had the right to his own opinion - knockers as well as others. It's the everlasting expression of it that grates on the ears of the real fan, and that was what makes a knocker.

Wichita would go into the Western league race two weeks from that day with a team that was made up of men who were comparatively unknown. There wasn't a star in the bunch. There wasn't a star in the bunch, and there wasn't a man in the lot who had started back towards the scrap pile. Everyone was a hustler, and everyone was out to win. It would suit Manager Holland unless someone falls down who looks good now.

It would be such a team only much better of course, as that which won the pennant for Wichita in 1905. That one was doped, even by President Shively himself, to draw the booby prize in the Western association that season. It fooled all of the critics, though.The Topeka experts, with a whole year's experience in the same company, saw it work early in the season.

The Wichita team won the series, but it didn't show the class to hold the pace. It may not have had class, but it won the pennant. Most of the real fans in Wichita feel that they were justified in having faith in both Jack Holland and Frank Isbell. Two pennant winners out of four, a close third and a closer second for the other two teams, was a pretty good record for Manager Holland, and when he says that he would land in the first division, most of the fans believe he would. They were not worrying about how he was going to get there. They were relying upon his judgment, because he had shown them that he had it and knew how to use it.

Holland and Isbell had been doing things for Wichita since they go hold of the team franchise. Not only did they take a team that was riddled by the higher leagues that last season and put it within less than twenty points of the top, but they were the chief actors in the little game of baseball politics which put Wichita and Topeka in the Western league. They spent their own me=oney and used their own time to work it, and they deserve something better than even the few knocks which have been thrown at them that spring.

Whether he lands in the first division or not, and the real fans were confident that he would, Jack Holland ought to be given credit for what he had done to give Wichita some prominence in baseball. The poorest way to thank him for what he had done, was to tell everyone that he was bound to fall down that year, and that he was not equal to the task of picking a Western league winner. The best way to show appreciation was to get behind him and boost. He didn't ask it, but he was like most other men, and would appreciate the show of a little assurance that the Wichita fans had faith in him, rather than a skeptical shake of a hollow head every time the chance for the Wichita team was discussed.

~ "Buckle-up, Buttercup!"
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Memories At boot Hill

Vol 1, Iss 8 Boot Hill, KS - It was August, Thursday, 1999, when NW Okie wrote this following piece, "Memories at Boot Hill (Ancestors, Drifters, Troublemakers & Unknowns)."

It isn't everyday that Oakie finds a possible ancestral lead at famous Boot Hill Cemetery in Dodge City, Kansas. This Memorial weekend I had the opportunity to search a famous cemetery for a link to an alleged ancestor who was buried at Boot Hill.

We arrived in Dodge around 6:00 p.m. with two hours to spare before they closed at 8:00 p.m. I walked out into what was left of the original NW Corner of the graveyard. I glanced to the left. The first marker that I spotted stuck out and grabbed my attention with the following inscription, "A buffalo hunter by name of 'McGill' who amused himself by shooting into every house he passsed. he won't pass this way again. He died March 1873.

The first thing we saw when we drove into Dodge City on hwy. 400 were the "Boot Hill Museum & Exhibits." this "Old Buffalo (Longhorn) Town" was winding down it's celebration of the "Annual Cowboy heritage Festival" for the third straight year on may 29 & 30, 19999 held at the Boot Hill Museum Complex, Dodge City, Kansas.

According to a "Boot Hill Museum Publication" written by Darleen Clifton Smith, there were thirty-four (34) drifters, troublemakers and unknowns buried between 1872 and 1878. Most of those drifters and troublemakers were buried with their boots on. hence, the name "Boot Hill."

The publication also states that Dodge City had no extablished cemetery of it's own and only those with money and families were buried at the Fort Dodge Cemetery. All the other drifters, troublemakers and unknowns were buried west of town on a hill covered in buffalo grass, prickly pear and soapweed. There were no markers, no ceremonies and wolves would come along later and dig up the graves.

If you get a chance to walk through the remaining section of the Boot Hill cemetery, these are some of the other names that you will find on the engraved markers. Maybe one of these drifters and unknowns could be an ancestor of yours and add some character to your family tree.

Surnames represented on the other markers scattered throughout the NW Corner included the names of J. M. Essington, Barney Cutten, Edward Hurley, Charles "Texas" Hill, Edward Williams, McDermott, John Wagner and Alice Chambers.

Alice was supposedly the only woman buried on Boot Hill and the last burial May 1878. Casey (friend of Ed Hurley) killed McDermott February 1873. Wagner died of wounds from "Texas Hill" and Ed Williams in a dance hall February 1873. Cutten (railroad employee) and Hurley was killed during a shooting spree in the saloon January 1873. The cook shot Essington (carpenter and part owner of the Essington Hotel) Nov. 1872.

Today only the original NW Corner of the cemetery exists with wooden markers engraved from documented 1873 newspaper stories of those that died during 1872 through 1878. It remains as a symbol of our heritage. Wooden markers are the only reminders of those drifters, troublemakers and unknowns who had passed through Dodge City between 1872-1878. In 1879 the City Council ordered the remaining bodies to be removed to make room for a 3rd ward school. In 1916 most of Boot Hill was excavated to make room for a city swimming pool.

Every community has a Boot Hill of unknowns and drifters. On the East End of Main Street in Freedom (small, rural cow Town in NW Oklahoma) there is a "Freedom Boot Hill" just next to the jail and the U. S. Marshal's office.

Speaking of Freedom, Oklahoma -- Plans are currently underway for the 62nd Annual Freedom Rodeo and Old cowhand Reunion to be held August 19-21, 1999. Y'all come and experience the "Biggest Little Rodeo" in Northwest Oklahoma.
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Duchess of Weaselskin

Vol 14, Iss 52 Bayfield, Colorado - My human friend, RL Wagner, took this photo on the left this last week at Vallecito Lake, which shows the north end of the dry lake-bed covered in snow, and looking to the northwest mountains of the San Juan National Forests.

NW Okie took it over to her Adobe Photoshop and turned it into a black & white image, transposing it into a black & white watercolor. This is OkieLegacy's holiday card to all of our readers as we wind down the 2012 year and enter into 2013! Seasons Greetings To All!

You will, no doubt, ask why this week's newsletter is being sent out Sunday, 23 December 2012. Because we don't want to work on Christmas Eve and interfere with everyone's St. Nicks day.

As we keep this short and donate this week's newsletter to the holidays, we leave you with a couple of quotes that we found by James Arthur Baldwin quotes (American Essayist, Playwright and Novelist, 1924-1987) ~ "Not everything that is faced can be changed. But nothing can be changed until it is faced."

The other quote is, "I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain."

HO! HO! HO! Seasons Greetings & Merry Christmas!

Could anyone please explain to this Duchess Pug why humans value their guns over other humans? It makes no sense to this Duchess Pug (dog). As a pug canine, I know dogs value our humans with unconditionally love, respect over just about everything. Why can't the adult humans do the same?

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Duchess of Weaselskin

Vol 14, Iss 44 Bayfield, Colorado - My five-point Buck friend, shown on the left, came to dinner the other evening, 24 October 2012, here in Southwest Colorado Rockies, North of Bayfield. It was the night before our temperatures dropped into the teens.

What a magnificent animal, don't you think? In Colorado it is considered a 5-point Buck, because they only count the points on one side. In Oklahoma it is referred to as a 10-point Buck. Whatever! It is still a great view, don't you think?

This video was taken by my youngest son, R.L. Wagner, around dinner time, 6:00 p.m., 24 October 2012, in the Southwest Colorado Rockies. If you listening intently you can hear him being called to Dinner.

Giants Win World Series

Anyone out their following the World Series? San Francisco Giants Win World Series After Sweeping Detroit Tigers. The NY Times reported, "The San Francisco Giants won the World Series for the second time in the past three years by beating the Detroit Tigers in Game 4, 4-3, in 10 innings Sunday night. The Giants scored the winning run in the top of the 10th inning when Marco Scutaro hit a single to drive in Ryan Theriot." Read More.

Hoping those in the path of "Sandy" in the Northeast are safe and taking precautions!

Remember . . . Your VOTE Does Count! If you do not want someone to make the choice for you, you need to exercise your Right To VOTE! If you State has early voting that has begun (check it out here: GottaVote!

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Duchess of Weaselskin

Vol 14, Iss 39 Bayfield, CO - Have you ever had a chance to observe the eating habits of the wildlife (birds, ground squirrels & chipmunks) of Southwest Colorado and other areas?

The following video was taken by and courtesy of NW Okie's youngest son, Robert L. Wagner, 23 September 2012. Hope you enjoy the Sterling Jays, chipmunks and ground squirrels caught in the act, feeding on peanuts, corn and sunflower seeds with a movie camera nearby, in Southwest Colorado.

Stop the GOP Obstructionists in U.S. Congress!


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Duchess of Weaselskin

Vol 14, Iss 29 Bayfield, Colorado - Our human buddy, Robert Wagner, has made a fantastic slow-motion video last Friday the 13th of July, 2012, of the hummingbirds feeding at the northend of Vallecito Reservoir, in SW Colorado, with his GoPro Hero2 camera with it set at 120 FPS, slowed down 16x.

Hope you like this week's OkieLegacy Ezine that includes more history of Pendleton county, West Virginia; information from one hundred years ago today and yesterday concerning Jim Thorpe winning the pentathlon and decathlon from the "Pick O' World" at Stockholm. Was this the medal that was taken away from Thorpe and then reinstated a few years ago?

There is more information concerning the "Bull Moose" party that Colonel Roosevelt started the progressive Bull Moose party after he broke with the Republican party.

Where are the Jobs, Boehner?

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Duchess of Weaselskin

Pochahotas Doli

Vol 13, Iss 46 Bayfield, Colorado - Veterans Day Weekend brought chilly, cloudy weather to the San Juan mountains of Southwest Colorado, but only a few flakes of snow mixed with graupel and rain made a slight appearance. Monday the sun came out, but there was still a chill in the air.

The photo on the left is a photo of our paint filly (Pocahontas Doli) with a view of her mother Doquoti in the background, back in northwest Oklahoma. Hello, Doli! We miss being able to be there with you right now. You are getting so much taller the last we saw you.

We continue our mentioning of the Native Americans and their legacies left among our culturals in America. We also bring you more old newspaper archives from Chronicling America's Old Newspapers. If you have any Native American legacies or any other old news archives that you would like to share with us, please send them along to NW Okie at Thanks!

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Duchess of Weaselskin

Vol 13, Iss 36 Bayfield, Colorado - Hope you all are having a safe Labor Day weekend! Southwest Colorado Rockies has been cool and wet this last week. Our "sweet 100 tomatoes" have really started ripening. They are those little, round tomatoes with a slight sweet taste that you can just plop into your mouth. From garden to kitchen a few do not make it back to the kitchen. Especially if they are ripe for eating!

Our youngest son (R. L. Wagner) took the following video of some southwest Colorado Chipmunks and a lone bird (Pine Siskin) this weekend. The chipmunks and bird were navigating the underside of a cedar bush in our front driveway, as shown in the video below.

We want to leave you with something to think about and ponder with the following sayings. Have you ever heard these saying before? How much of it rings true?

  1. "What we dislike in others is what we dislike in ourselves."
  2. "Wherever we are pointing our finger, there are three fingers pointing back at us."
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Duchess & Sadie's Domain

Vol 13, Iss 16 Bayfield, Colorado - Well! From a Pug's point of view, it has been a bit warmer here in the SW Colorado San Juan mountains this last week. I am not complaining, though. I love sitting on a mound by my owners pickup and watching the wildlife.

We hear Tornadoes and Red Flag warnings are blowing through Oklahoma and neighboring states. Is that so?

Many of you sent messages of "Thanks" for the beautiful Northwest Oklahoma sunsets in last week's OkieLegacy eZine. Thanks to Robert L. Wagner for submitting those photos!

Can someone out there in Northwest Oklahoma help the following person find directions to the "Old Farry High School?" One of our readers left the following OkieLegacy Comment, concerning, Feature #801 -- "I am trying to find directions to the old Farry High School. I remember going to the family farm (John and Gladys Smith) and going by the old school house after it burned. Any help can be sent to Email: My dad was Gerald Smith, who died in 1972."

Before this Duchess Pugster turns this over to NW Okie to publish this week's newsletter, we would like to wish an early "Happy Birthday" to Amber McGill Colon with the below musical, birthday video we made up.

An Early Birthday Wish! -- Happy Birthday, Amber! Someday your wishes will all come true, but Today we are simply wishing you a "Happy Birthday" and wishing you many more to follow!

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Duchess & Sadie's Domain

Vol 13, Iss 13 Bayfield, CO - [Another photograph taken by Robert L. Wagner, Alva, Oklahoma.] -- As the sunsets four miles west of Alva, Woods, Oklahoma, on the 25th March, we were rounding the corner of the last weekend of March, 2011.

We hear from some of you in northeast Kansas that the chilly, cold weather has caught the tulips and daffodils in their awakening of Spring. Did the blooming spring flowers survive?

This weekend we took the following video of Weaselskin creek flowing towards the last weekend of March 2011. For those of you who can not make it this way and/or do not have a mountain stream or creek nearby to watch and listen to for relaxation, then we share this little video with you all.

Here comes April and another birthday for J. L. "Bud" Clark the latter half of this coming week. If you see my "Bud," please give a Happy Birthday from this Duchess & Sadie Pugsters!

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Duchess & Sadie's Domain

Vol 13, Iss 12 Bayfield, Colorado - [The photo on the left was taken the evening before (Friday, 18 March 2011) and he photo on the right was taken Saturday, 19 March 2011, by photographer, Robert L. Wagner, Alva, Oklahoma. Great shot, Rob!]

On March 19, 2011 were you ready for the "Supermoon?" Did you view the "Super Moon?" How about that huge, bright "Super Moon" Saturday evening?

They say the "Supermoon" only happens every 18 years. They say it will appear 14% wider and 30% brighter at a mere distance of 221,567 miles away from Earth.

It was too socked in with clouds here in Southwest Colorado at Vallecito to get a good view. BUT . . . We did a Google search for online photos. You can view it at the following (one photographer used the following settings on his camera (F-stop of 5.6 and and ISO of 400):

* Wes2theGO9's Flickr site.
* Supermoon 2011 @ The Jersey Journal
* Supermoon 2011 @ POPSCI (Popular Science)
* Supermoon 2011 @ Capital Weather Gang (Washington Post)

New Freedom Chamber of Commerce

We hear the Freedom Chamber of Commerce has a new President, DeWana Leonard. DeWana says, "I just wanted to tell you about a few of the changes we have this year that I hope will improve the rodeo and start to build it back to the previous attendance. My hope is also that this year is the beginning of Freedom having a premiere PRCA rodeo like they had a few years ago as an open rodeo."

DeWana goes on to say, "Change #1 - New announcer young up and coming announcer, Mr Creed Roberts. Change #2 - Hiring Leon Coffee, one of the greatest rodeo clown ever. We have to keep his calliber of excellence, we have had him before and was enjoyed by all. Change #3 - All new Rodeo Committee, they are young, energetic and have some great new thoughts and ideas. AND . . . the biggest Change #4 - Justin McBride, Oklahoma's own World Champion Bullrider, now Recording Artist, is putting on an outdoor concert after the rodeo on Saturday night at the Rodeo Grounds."

DeWana Leonard would like to Thank you all for always supporting the Freedom Rodeo and Old Cowhand Reunion! They could probably use lots of NW Oklahoma and Freedom Volunteers, also! Contact (DeWana Leonard ( and see what you can to do to volunteer to help make Freedom Rodeo a "Premiere PRCA Rodeo!"

With the first day of Spring arriving this Sunday, March 20, 2011, did you catch any sitings of Spring flowers in your neck of the woods? View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Duchess & Sadie's Domain

Vol 12, Iss 48 Bayfield, Colorado - When bedlam college football comes around this time of year, these pugs and other dogs out there might want to retire to another room other than the TV viewing room. Those humans can should get loud, excited when their favorite NCAA football teams battle it out, especially in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

Humans ain't so bad, though! We do get our little perks and treats! Our human counter parts regained their respect from us when they shared some small morsels of turkey with us Pugs on Thanksgiving! Sadie and I thought that was delicious!

NW Okie has been doing some website cleaning on her Family genealogy over at Paris Times Pioneers - powered by PhpGedView, which reads our GED files. NW Okie has her PARIS, MCGILL, WARWICK and WAGNER family genealogy updated on that site. So if you do not have a subscription to login into - paristimes, then you can check out our genealogy at "Paris Times Pioneers."

This is the Duchess' stress reducing motto all us Pug dogs work under, "If you can't eat or play with it, pee on it and walk away."

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Millennium Edition

Vol 3, Iss 1 Slapout, Oklahoma - Here it is a week into the New 21st Century! Thanks for all the memories you have sent in the past Volumes of "Oakie's HTH." I am working on some Slapout, Oklahoma 2001 photos I took this week and hope to have them ready for you next week. Send me some history and memories of Slapout... If you get a chance.

We ate our good luck black-eyed peas in Buck's Hoppin John Recipe on New Years Eve for good luck to follow us into the New Millennium. I have stuck the recipe link below just in case someone wants to check it out.BucksHoppinJohn.doc

New Years Day found this Oakie on the road again back to Oklahoma, January 1, 2001. As to New Years traditions & black-eyed peas... Scott says, "My family always ate black-eyed peas on New Year's Day. Why? I haven't a clue."
< br /> My family also ate black-eyed peas on New Years for good luck. I don't know why or when the black-eyed peas tradition started. Does anyone out there have any clues to this mystery?

Some of you NW Oklahomans and Paris family relations out there might remember my Uncle Alvin. On our way back through Colorado to Oklahoma, we stopped and visited with my mother's older brother, Alvin Paris. Alvin worked with the McClure Loans & Insurance Company, in Alva back in the 1930s. Alvin & Naomi married in 1935 and lived in the Monfort Apartments before moving to 718 4th Street. I'm not quite sure where the Monfort apartments were located, but Alvin and Naomi moved from those apartments to the 718 4th Street home sometime shortly after the Castle on the Hill burned down. Does anyone have any clues to where the Monfort Apartments were located? Alvin and Naomi also lived in the two-story, framed, white house on the southeast corner of Choctaw & Third Street, across the street south from the Old Armory. Alvin Paris was born 1 Nov. 1912; married Naomi Warren (b. 1910), 3 February 1935. They will be celebrating their 66th anniversary, Feb. 3, 2001. Alvin is the next to the oldest of nine siblings of Ernest Claude Paris and Mary Barbara Hurt. Of the nine siblings (Leslie, Alvin, Vernon, Vada, Zella, Kenneth, Sam, Geneva and EJ)... the three remaining are Alvin (88, in Colorado Springs, CO), Sam (76, in Sand Pointe, ID) and Geneva (72, in Chester, OK).

Everyone knows about Pikes Peak and Colorado Springs, but what about the Cave of the Winds. These caverns are located near the small community of Manitou west of Colorado Springs, Colorado. You use a steep, winding, corkscrew mountain road to reach the entrance of the Cave of the Winds. The caverns have been around for over one hundred years.

They were temporarily lighted with electric lights 11 October 1904. On 4 July 1907 a new electric light system with arc lights were installed in the larger rooms of the cave for the first time. The entrance building was built in the spring of 1906 with a veranda for views of Williams Canyon and Manitou.

We stopped to take the tour so I could walk in the footsteps of my grandmother Constance Warwick who took the same tour in the early 1900s (1907-1909) before she married my grandfather, Bill McGill. I found this great old photo of the "Cave of the Winds" taken sometime during the early 1900s. There were NO names or dates written on the photo. The only clues to the dated items in photo are the long skirt and white blouse worn by the lady; the two horse drawn carriages in the sloping foreground; and the sign on the front of the building over the steps that reads, "Brilliantly Electrically Lighted." OkieLegacy/image/cavewinds.jpg
< br />You can view a January, 2001 view of the "Cave of the Winds" for comparison. OkieLegacy/image/cavewinds-jan01a.jpg OkieLegacy/image/cavewinds-jan01b.jpg OkieLegacy/image/cavewinds-jan01c.jpg OkieLegacy/image/cavewinds-jan01d.jpg

Nearby is a free public park called "Garden of the Gods." It has towering sandstone rock formations against a backdrop of snow-capped Pikes Peak and blue skies. In 1909, Charles Elliott Perkins' children conveyed his 480 acres to the City of Colorado Springs. It was/is known as the 'Garden of the Gods' and free to the public and maintained as a public park.
< br /> I did get a few shots of the 'Garden of the Gods' when we traveled through there January, 2001. If you look really hard, you might spot this Oakie leaning on a rock wall with the sandstone formations in the background at one of the overlooks.
OkieLegacy/image/gardengods1.jpg OkieLegacy/image/gardengods2.jpg

For the week of January 1 thru January 5... from SW Colorado to Oklahoma, the gas pump prices ranged from $1.55 (Durango, CO) all the way down to $1.19 at a Texaco, in central Oklahoma. The first of the week in Colorado Springs gas prices were $1.39. Boise City, out on the very tip of the Oklahoma panhandle, saw a $1.39 gas as did Guymon, OK. The gas prices in Alva during the mid-week came in at $1.35. Ames, OK which is southeast of Ringwood and norhtwest of Hennessey, Kingfisher and Okarche all sported a $1.34 price tag. A Texaco gas station in NW Oklahoma City showed a price of gas on Friday, January 5, 2001, at $1.19. What are the gas pump prices doing in your neck of the woods?
< br />Next week I will try to get the pictures of Slapout, Oklahoma ready for you to see what it looks like today. If anyone out there has any old photos, history or memories of Slapout to share, just attach them to an email and send along to Linda at View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Duchess Snowy Domain

Vol 12, Iss 10 The view on the left is what you could expect to see up at the Vallecito Res., in Southwest Colorado, in the San Juan mountains, north of Bayfield. Saturday, Sunday and Monday was a different picture, though.

Snow and rain showers moved in Saturday, Sunday and continues with a snow/mixture in the mountains and valley for Monday through Wednesday as it tapers off before another front comes through. To view that same photo in black and white, CLICK HERE

The temperatures North of Bayfield, Colorado have been hanging around 34 degrees the last few days, but last week we did get up to the mid-40's.

SW San Juan Mountain Wildlife

Robert L. Wagner took this photo of the Albert Squirrel, Sterling Jays and other small birds feeding behind their own little secluded feeding area, hidden by mounds of piled snow from the road crews.

That Albert Squirrel can be quite interesting to watch as he hogs the feeder. The Albert squirrel I have down at my place, closer to Bayfield, Colorado likes to sit in the feeder while a dozen or more big black crows, standing around on the ground nearby, squawking at Mr. Albert (squirrel) while he munches away. Nothing scares him off, except my friend Sadie and me (Duchess) when NW Okie lets us out the back patio door.

Have you ever observed the Albert Squirrel at feeding time?

As Edward R. Murrow would say, "Good Night and Good Luck!"
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Duchess' Snowy Domain

Vol 12, Iss 4 As we round the last corner of January 2010, we have had a couple or three days of reprieve from snow storms here in the San Juan mountains of Southwest Colorado, but it has been downright chilly with temps in the high 20s and low 30s during the day and dropping to negative figures at night. BUT . . . Isn't that to be expected during Wintertime?

Last Monday evening the snow began to fall here in the San Juan mountains of Southwest Colorado. With twelve hour breaks, it snowed for the next four days, adding an additional twenty-six (26) inches of fresh snow North of Bayfield. Our snow gauge at the end of Friday evening and into Saturday measured a total of 43 inches, of which 17 inches was the compacted base of the December 2009 snow. Do I have you confused yet?

Anyway . . . as of Sunday our 43 inches of snow compacted down to 38 inches. Thursday and Friday's snow were of the heavy, wet variety. There were some reports of avalanches and short power outages around Vallecito, and others areas near Durango.

They say that the 35 inches that fell in Durango is also Durango's total for January, which is more than twice the average January snowfall of 16.9 inches.

The historical record for snowfall in January occurred in 1916 when 74 inches fell. The 2nd- and 3rd-highest snowfalls for January occurred in 1980 when 58-inches fell -- in 1957 when 58 inches fell.

The photo above, taken by Robert L. Wagner, 22 January 2010, shows a panorama view from the backside of a cabin up at Vallecito Lake where the snow slid down the cliffs onto the back patio blocking the occupants from opening the backdoor.

There were other avalanches around here and near Durango, Colorado as well. On County Road (CR) 500, south of what some referr to as Wits Ends there was an avalance of snow measuring eight feet deep and 800 feet length that blocked CR 500.

The sun did come out, finally, Saturday, Sunday and Today, Monday. Looks like we have another snowstorm waiting on the horizon for Wednesday of this week. Southwest Colorado's average snowfall for January is usually around 16.9 inches. So . . . We have practically doubled that amount so far and January is not over yet. The skiers and resorts are loving, though.

As to this week's OkieLegacy ezine, we are exploring and sharing some history of that famous "Westpoint of the West," known as Kemper Military School, that our Uncle Robert Lee McGill attended in 1937 and 1938 before he advanced to University of Kentucky.

By the way, one of the students during that time was from a town in Oklahoma called "Wolco." Where is/was Wolco, Oklahoma? In Osage county? This NW Okie had never heard of Wolco. Can someone enlighten us and share some legacies of Wolco, Osage county, Oklahoma? Thanks for your help!
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Who Was St. Nicholas? Sinterklaas? Santa Claus?

Vol 11, Iss 51 With just four days before christmas, have you ever wondered ... WHY? What is the real meaning of Christmas? Who was St. Nicholas? How does that relate to our Santa Claus of today? How did the Santa Claus tradition begin?

From the information we have gleaned online, it appears that the true story of Santa Claus begins with Nicholas, who was born during the third century in the village of Patara, a Greek area that is now on the southern coast of Turkey.

The historical Saint Nicholas is represented with a full, short white beard, and wearing the red cape of a bishop over white priestly robes. He carries a crosier, or elaborate shepherd's crook, and wears a red bishop's mitre, or pointed hat. In Eastern Orthodox iconography, he is often shown holding a book of the Gospels, with Jesus Christ over one shoulder and Theotokos, the Greek name for Mary, Mother of Jesus, over the other.

As the story goes ... Nicholas' wealthy parents raised him to be a devout Christian. His parents died in an epidemic while Nicholas was still young. Obeying Jesus' words to "sell what you own and give the money to the poor," Nicholas used his whole inheritance to assist the needy, the sick, and the suffering. He dedicated his life to serving God and was made Bishop of Myra while still a young man.

Bishop Nicholas became known throughout the land for his generosity to those in need, his love for children, and his concern for sailors and ships.

It was under the Roman Emperor Diocletian, who ruthlessly persecuted Christians, that Bishop Nicholas suffered for his faith and was exiled and imprisoned. The prisons were so full of bishops, priests, and deacons, there was no room for the real criminals-murderers, thieves and robbers. After his release, Nicholas attended the Council of Nicaea in AD 325. He died December 6, AD 343 in Myra and was buried in his cathedral church, where a unique relic, called manna, formed in his grave. This liquid substance, said to have healing powers, fostered the growth of devotion to Nicholas. The anniversary of his death became a day of celebration, St. Nicholas Day, December 6th (December 19 on the Julian Calendar).

There have been many stories through the centuries -- legends have been told of St. Nicholas' life and deeds. Perhaps these accounts will help us understand his extra-ordinary character and why he was so beloved and revered as protector and helper of those in need. Perhaps this is what Christmas Day or St. Nicholas Day is really about!

There is one story that tells of a poor man with three daughters. In those days a young woman's father had to offer prospective husbands something of value - a dowry. The larger the dowry, the better the chance that a young woman would find a good husband. Without a dowry, a woman was unlikely to marry. This poor man's daughters, without dowries, were therefore destined to be sold into slavery.

Mysteriously - on three different occasions, a bag of gold appeared in their home-providing the needed dowries. The bags of gold, tossed through an open window, are said to have landed in stockings or shoes left before the fire to dry. This led to the custom of children hanging stockings or putting out shoes, eagerly awaiting gifts from Saint Nicholas. Sometimes the story is told with gold balls instead of bags of gold. That is why three gold balls, sometimes represented as oranges, are one of the symbols for St. Nicholas. And so St. Nicholas is a gift-giver. Does this sound familiar yet?

One of the oldest stories showing St. Nicholas as a protector of children takes place long after his death. The townspeople of Myra were celebrating the good saint on the eve of his feast day when a band of Arab pirates from Crete came into the district. They stole treasures from the Church of Saint Nicholas to take away as booty.

As they were leaving town, they snatched a young boy, Basilios, to make into a slave. The emir, or ruler, selected Basilios to be his personal cupbearer, as not knowing the language, Basilios would not understand what the king said to those around him. So, for the next year Basilios waited on the king, bringing his wine in a beautiful golden cup. For Basilios' parents, who were devastated at the loss of their only child, the year passed slowly, filled with grief. As the next St. Nicholas' feast day approached, Basilios' mother would not join in the festivity, as it was now a day of tragedy. However, she was persuaded to have a simple observance at home with quiet prayers for Basilios' safekeeping. Meanwhile, as Basilios was fulfilling his tasks serving the emir, he was suddenly whisked up and away. St. Nicholas appeared to the terrified boy, blessed him, and set him down at his home back in Myra. Imagine the joy and wonderment when Basilios amazingly appeared before his parents, still holding the king's golden cup. This is the first story told of St. Nicholas protecting children which became his primary role in the West.

Saint Nicholas - Wikipedia says, "(Greek: Άγιος Νικόλαος , Agios ["saint"] Nikolaos ["victory of the people"]) (270 - 6 December 346) is the common name for Nicholas of Myra, a saint and Bishop of Myra (Demre, in Lycia, part of modern-day Turkey). Because of the many miracles attributed to his intercession, he is also known as Nicholas the Wonderworker. He had a reputation for secret gift-giving, such as putting coins in the shoes of those who left them out for him, and thus became the model for Santa Claus, whose English name comes from the Dutch Sinterklaas. His reputation evolved among the faithful, as is common for early Christian saints.[3] In 1087, his relics were furtively translated to Bari, in southeastern Italy; for this reason, he is also known as, Nicholas of Bari."

Are we getting close to the origins of our Santa Claus (or ... Sinterklaas) ... yet?

They say that the historical Saint Nicholas is remembered and revered among Catholic and Orthodox Christians and is also honoured by various Anglican and Lutheran churches. Saint Nicholas is the patron saint of sailors, merchants, archers, and children, and students in Greece, Belgium, Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, Russia, the Republic of Macedonia, Slovakia, Serbia and Montenegro. He is also the patron saint of Barranquilla, Bari, Amsterdam, Beit Jala, Siggiewi and Liverpool.

It was in 1809 that the New-York Historical Society convened and retroactively named Santa Claus the patron saint of Nieuw Amsterdam, the Dutch name for New York City.

My Ancestors, Couwenhoven (a.k.a Conover) were some of those Dutch settlers that settled in Nieuw Amsterdam (NYC). You follow the above URL and following URLs to scroll through our family tree of Couwenhoven / Conover Dutch ancestors that married into our PARIS lineage.

This is the Couwenhoven/Conover Lineage down to NW Okie:
* gerrit jansz couwenhoven
* wolphert gerritsz2 van kouwenhoven (1579-1662)
* gerret wolfersen van kouwenhoven (1610-1648)
* willem gerretse couwenhoven (1636-1723)
* jan "john" willemse couwenhoven (1681-1756)
* dominicus covenhoven (1724-1778)
* peter conover (1769-1835)
* jonathan coombs conover (1797-1859)
* peter conover (1822-1900)
* sarah frances conover (1848-1924)
* ernest claude paris (1879-1959)
* vada eileen paris (mcGill) (1916-1992)
* Linda Kay McGill (Wagner) (1948-living)

BUT ... Back to what brought this all about - the talk of Sinterklaas. Sinterklaas was also a patron of the Varangian Guard of the Byzantine emperors, who protected his relics in Bari. A nearly identical story is attributed by Greek folklore to Basil of Caesarea. Basil's feast day on January 1 is considered the time of exchanging gifts in Greece.

St. Nicholas Day is all about the "Spirits of Giving Around the World." In the Netherlands, Sinterklaas or St. Nicholas can be found wearing traditional bishop's robes, as he rides into towns across Holland on a white horse where he is typically greeted with a parade. Each year, Dutch television broadcasts the official arrival of St. Nicholas live to the nation.

The children of Holland look forward with excitement to his arrival on the evening of December 5, putting out carrots and hay for his horse. In return they receive gifts, candies, cookies, fruit and nuts. The children sometimes get letters from St. Nick filled with clever poetry.

To some -- To me, St. Nicholas Day and Christmas is not about the celebration of a birth, but is about the "Spirit of Giving Around the World."

It is perfectly alright with me if you want to celebrate Christmas as a birth, though. I have no problem with that. I prefer to celebrate Christmas as a season for giving of yourself and your particular talents! WHY can't we all be like St. Nicholas - known for our generosity and giving! -- People Helping People!
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Duchess Deer Domain

Vol 11, Iss 47 HAPPY THANKSGIVING! ... Welcome to our Evening eZine/Newspaper! Seems like NW Okie has left this Duchess Pug with a heavy load the past few weeks. I'm goin' take a long snooze afterwards with my wildlife creatures in my Deer Domain ? AND ? GO ON STRIKE!

By the way ? Have you met my friend Mr. Buck pictured on the left while he was grazing on fallen wildbird seed mix?

Mr.Buck and other deer have been grazing in our backyard the past few weeks waiting for another cold front to come through here sometime after and around the Thanksgiving holiday weekend. Mr. Buck says, "Hello!"

NW Okie is in the process of merging the Warwick McGill Paris Wagner families into one tree over at our family website. If you are already an member -- I have sent you a "Guest" invite to our family genealogy, come over and check it out -- leave a comment -- a family story -- help me refine the information that I have gathered so far.

NW Okie says, "If you don't mind the mess, drop over and see our 3980 family tree of our Paternal Maternal Wagner surnames.

NW Okie would also like to send you an invite to McGill-Paris-Wagner on, a place where we can learn more about our family history and share what we discover, together. You can view and print this family tree as well as historical records, images, stories, etc. that are attached to it.

If she has NOT already sent you a "Guest" invite and you are interested, let us know your email address so we can send you a "Guest" invite so you can view, comment on our family genealogy. allows you to participate by in our family genealogy by:
* Commenting on people, images, and stories
* Adding photos and stories
* Adding, editing, and deleting names

Did I mention this before ? The family tree already has 3980 people, 8 photos, 0 stories and 563 historical records. More old photos will be added later.
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Vol 11, Iss 46 We hear Wolf Creek Ski Resort got another 30 inches of snow added this last weekend to its already 50 inch base it already had accumulated. Here North of Bayfield, Colorado we received about 4 inches of snow Saturday, November 14, 2009.

NW Okie has been doing some cleaning up around the ParisTimes Pioneers website while she learns, plays with a NEW genealogy software program for the Mac, Reunion 9.

So ? that means dusting off, cleaning up some genealogy data files around this joint. Plus merging the Paternal genealogy data with the maternal genealogy data. You can see those mergers and updates at the following Links:

* Family Album
* Warwick / Paris / Wagner Family Tree
* MyHeritage - Family Genealogy Site
* Family album Slideshow
* Geneanet - Family Genealogy
* ParisTimes Pioneer Family Group Sheets
* ParisTimes Pioneer Ahnentafel Surnames

Another thing NW Okie has been playing, learning to use is Parallels Desktop for Mac. This little software program allows NW Okie to run two or more operating systems on her MacBookPro laptop as a virtual machine. Right now NW Okie is able to run Mac's Snow Leopard in coherence with Windows 7. Making it easier to use Windows programs alongside the Mac without having two computers. There are some Windows programs that will not run on a Mac. Having a virtual machine allows NW Okie to use Windows programs alongside and with the Mac programs, compatibly.

Well! These Pilgrims in Southwest Colorado will be getting together next week sometime for their annual givings of Thanks for their bountiful crops and health. Hope you ALL do the same! Happy Thanksgiving To ALL and Happy Birthday to Nathan Christopher Colon, November 26th!
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Duchess Deer Debacle

Vol 11, Iss 43 Duchess and Sadie, The Pugs, still have been on deer alert here in Southwest Colorado. Particularly when the deer try to raid the hanging birdfeeder. This is a movie clip NW Okie took of my "Duchess Deer Debacle" this last Sunday morn, 25 October 2009. They have been split in to two movie clips: Duchess Deer Debacle I -- Duchess Deer Debacle II

Happy Birthday today to Michael E. Wagner in Fresno, California!
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Duchess' Domain

Vol 11, Iss 34 The weather and temperature in SW Colorado on Monday morning, August 24th, 2009, was at 52F witht he humidity at 54% and an overcast, cloudy Monday morning. The Albuquerque, NM weathermen were talking last night of the monsoon's coming through SW New Mexico all this next week. Before that our temps were in the high 80's. It is good to see the rain!

How many Northwest Oklahomans and former Oklahomans showed up last week on the Main Street of Freedom, the "Queen City of the Cimarron?" Did they have a huge crowd at their Old Cowhand Reunion & Rodeo last weekend? We would love to share your reunion and rodeo stories in "The OkieLegacy eZine."

A couple of the Wagner clan is in the process of moving our oldest son, Michael, and his furnishings to Fresno, California for his new job and adventure on the West Coast. Some of us are dog sitting. We did have a nice visit with David's older brother and his wife towards of the beginning of last week as they made their way back to Florida from the West Coast.

Has it cooled yet in Oklahoma? I am hoping to pass along some of this wet, cool weather from SW Colorado down you way in a few days when we get finished with it up here in the Rocky Mountain State. Just one more week of August left to go before Fall and September roll around. Slow down through the school zones. It is that time of year.
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Duchess' Domain

Vol 11, Iss 33 Can you remember what you were doing 40 years ago, during the Summer of '69, August 15-18, 1969 to be exact? Were you one of those 450,000 rock-n-roll music lovers, hippies making their way to the "Peace & Love" Woodstock Festival at White Lake, New York? Lots was happening the Summer of '69!

This Duchess NW Okie was from that era of America Rock N Roll, but was stuck in Alva, Oklahoma, and had been a newly wed for a couple weeks and David was still either at National Guard summer camp at Ft. Sill or coming home.

The NW Okie did not make it to Northwest Oklahoma and Freedom's PCRA Rodeo and Old Cowhand reunion.

If someone out there in northwest Oklahoma has a copy of the Freedom Rodeo Program, NW Okie would love to have a copy for her archives. Send us a copy c/o Linda Wagner, PO Box 619, Bayfield, CO 81122.

We would love to see how our full-page AD for "The OkieLegacy" and "McGill Sisters L & C Corporation" turned out in the Freedom Rodeo program with a 1908 photo of Constance Warwick, McGill Sister's 1908 Old Cowhand.
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Dear Duchess

Vol 11, Iss 26 June 2009 is almost gone and July is just around the corner. For many in the small rural community of Dacoma, Oklahoma, that means staging a 3rd of July picnic and blowout of fireworks in their community park a day before Independence Day, July 4, 2009.

NW Okie was telling me about the crowds from all around Northwest Oklahoma pouring into Dacoma on the 3rd of July for their Annual community Blowout and Fireworks. NW Okie misses seeing those spectacular fireworks of Dacoma's 3rd of July Blowout. If you get down to Dacoma, OK, on the 3rd of July this year, get some photos of the crowds, fireworks and say "Hello" to the Larry and Beth Leslie family from the Colorado Wagners.

We have heard from some readers that they like the "eZine" version of "The OkieLegacy" better so they can scroll down through the whole thing at once. How do some of our other readers feel? Do you like the "Tabloid" or the "eZine" version?

Last week we had a digital photograph of a sunset at the North Pole, we found out that it was a purely digital creation. As far as we know, it is a work titled "Hideaway," produced by a 22-year-old German astrophysics student named Inga Nielsen using Terragen scenery rendering software. Thanks to those who sent us the "" information concerning that digital creation.

We hear it has been heating up into the three-digits back in Oklahoma and the humidity doesn't help any ... except to make the air heavy to breathe. NW Okie will think of you while she is in the cooler climate and mountains of the San Juans, in SW Colorado. Lately, the highest temps we have had here range in the 80s during the day and drop to the 50s in the evening. The air is quite a bit drier and easier for breathing, also. This morning at 9 a.m. the temperature was still at 63.5 and the humidity was at 52%. We just had a 1.5 inch of rain Friday of last.

We will probably drive up towards Vallecito Lake to watch the 4th of July Fireworks next Saturday. Where ever you travel, have a Great, Safe 4th of July this year. If you are in NW Oklahoma on the 3rd of July, stop over at Dacoma's community park and join in the all-day festivities and fireworks.
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Spring Snow of March 2009 - NW Oklahoma

Vol 11, Iss 13 The digital photo on the left was taken by one of my sons, Michael E. Wagner, living in the Alva, Oklahoma area during this weeks Spring Snow, March 28, 2009.

I imagine some woke up that day and the day before and asked, "Is it Spring Yet!"

Alva's Spring Snow dumped 12 inches of snow around Alva, Oklahoma, March 28, 2009 with snow drifts measuring in some places at 4 to 5 feet. Ft. Supply and Woodward Co., Oklahoma received around 2 feet of snow.

If you follow the next links you will find Spring Snow photos taken by my sons, Robert L. Wagner and Michael. Here is Robert's photo put together using iMovie on my MacBookPro.

NW Oklahoma Spring Snow (March 28, 2009)

MORE Spring Snow In NW Oklahoma

More Spring Snow photos from Alva, Oklahoma, March 28, 2009 as the Sun came out and the city & neighbors started digging out from 12 inches of snow and 5 foot drifts. Photos by Michael E. Wagner, Alva, OK.

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Happy St. Patricks Day!

Vol 11, Iss 11 Yep! The wearing of the emerald-green for some of us Irish is just around the corner. Tuesday to be exact! I am thinking about wearing my green into Durango and partaking of some Irish stew and green beer on St. Patricks Day.

We have gotten back to working on our Warwick family genealogy, somewhat -- following friends on Twitter and Facebook and setting up a Facebook - Warwick Genealogy Group on our Facebook site. For all those savvy Facebook addicts, you can Facebook Linda McGill Wagner and Twitter With OkieLegacy.

The reason I have been gathering Warwick family information is because someone asked me if I would write a story about the McGill Ranch North of Waynoka. To do the story justly, I need to take you back to when my Great-Grandparents John R. and Signora Belle (a.k.a Sigga B.) Warwick made the Run of 1893 in the Cherokee Strip of Oklahoma Territory. That is just one of the projects that I have on my full plate of "To Dos."

I am remembering bits and pieces of our family trip back to the Virginia in 1960 or so ... It seems as though we visited, I think, Sam Lindsay, in West Virginia, and he had grown these huge tomatoes on stakes. I donot know if it was the virginia variety, or what, BUT ... they were gigantic in size. The tomatoes were bigger than my one hand could hold. I am hoping my sister will read this and help me out with more of those memories of the early 1960 trip to Virginia.

Anyway ... My dad brought some of the tomatoes and seeds from those tomatoes back to Oklahoma to plant in his vegetable garden out at the Ranch. Not sure the tomatoes ever got as big as they did in West Virginia, though!

A couple of weeks ago, Louise in Waynoka mentioned, "We need some rain, everything is trying to green up, but we have a moisture problem."

I Hope you NW Okies finally got some moisture along with a quick cold front this week. We hear it turned cold this week in the northwest parts with snow and ice."

The Balmer Fund has placed a FREE AD in our "Classifieds" that reads: "PEOPLE PERSON? ?Sell ads for Prairie Connection, flexible hours. Contact:" If you are in the area of Harper, KS and NW Oklahoma, you might give the Balmer Fund a shout and check out this job opportunity.

Someone always seems to ask me, "How much are the subscriptions to the OkieLegacy newsletter?" In reply I write back and tell them this is a FREE weekly online newsletter! There is NO CHARGE! It is a labor of love and devotion to publish this OkieLegacy ezine each week. If it helps one person out there make a connection in their genealogy records, then that is all the reward I need!

Here are some Crossword Puzzle instructions for those who have not figured it out on your own:
* Select a clue from the clue list to activate the puzzle space, then type in your answer.
* If you want to pencil in a temporary answer, click the pencil button on the left column, fill-in the answer.
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Happy Coming St. Patricks Day!
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Winter, Moons & Updates

Vol 11, Iss 2 This has been a dry, sunny week of melting in Southwest Colorado. The roads seem clear, but the snow remains with icicles melting, forming on the edges of house roofs. We did get about a quarter of an inch of snow Friday evening, but the sunshine on Saturday and Sunday has taken care of that new snow.

I wish that I had my camera in hand the other day when I let Sadie out back to take care of her backyard business and exploring. Sadie finally decided to make the trek up the backyard slope to explore because she found out that the snow had compacted and frozen underneath so she did not sink in up to her belly and chest.

After awhile of exploring, I called her in with a bribe of a T R E A T! She came running down the slope in good shape, but when she got to the bottom near some much softer snow, she did a quick sinking into the snow up to her belly. Sadie did a short back track of a few steps then forged quickly forward to the back porch -- shaking off the snow chest and belly.

It was hilarious! I never am prepared for those type of Pug adventures, though.

Did anyone get a chance to view the big, bright Full Moon Saturday evening. With the snow on the ground, it really lit up the night skies! The digital camera that I have did not do justice to the Full moon view, though. I took it from my front porch and it is hidden halfway behind an huge icicle hanging from the roof edge. If you have a better shot of Saturday evenings Full moon, send us a copy to share with everyone.

New Look At OkieLegacy
Some of you have noticed a few more changes to the OkieLegacy HOME page and the OkieLegacy eZine. All of the credit for the 'asp' and 'database coding' goes to our oldest son, Michael E. Wagner.

On the "OkieLegacy HOME" page you will notice a random selection of photos that change each time you view the HOME page. You can view each photo to either view or it might take you to another web page of our "OkieLegacy" and "ParisTimes Pioneer" collection of data.

The NEW item on the "OkieLegacy eZine" page is the "Legacy Recipes" link that connects to our Paris Pioneers Cookbook. You can NOW leave comments, which are moderated. Under the FamilyNet Groups there are a few "surnames" that you can click on to bring up another page with history of that particular surname. We have a few "Classifieds" added and looking for more. Can we help you sale, rent or find something or someone out there in the Wanted, For Sale, For Rent & Wanted sections of the Classifieds. It's FREE! It is limited to 50 characters, so keep it short and precise.
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Happy New Year 2009

Vol 11, Iss 1 As we wound down the last week of 2008 by bringing in another New Year, we have been enjoying some much needed sunshine that helped compact and melt a few inches of the snow that fell in SW Colorado during Christmas week.

By this Saturday and into the early Sunday morning hours of January 4, 2009, we accumulated another 3 to 4 inches North of Bayfield. I am not quite sure what the higher elevations accumulations were, though. The New Mexico weathermen were predicting from 6 to a foot of snow in the mountains around 7500+.

It is still snowing slightly here as I sit working on the OkieLegacy Ezine, Vol. 11, Issue 1 for January 2009, Sunday afternoon.

Speaking of the OkieLegacy Ezine, my oldest son, Michael, has been busy giving it a NEW facelift for 2009. We hope it is more user friendly and interactive. Notice some new items added over at the left column. Such as... Classifieds (50 characters or less), Community Action board and the FamilyNet where you can register your family surnames and post messages.

Also... we have incorporated the old "Mailbag' section and included them with the features. There is NO "Mailbag" section anymore!

Posting Classifieds... The classifieds are moderated and are limited to 50 characters or less. It pertains to Jobs, For Sale, Wanted, For Rent. Do not forget to put in the "Run Until" box the date you want it to run to. Include your name and email (or phone number) before you click on the "send" button.

For those community activists that want to make a "Dynamite Difference" we have added a "DoRight-ers" community action board where you can share your injustice fact and tell us "What would you do?"

If you click on List Community Actions on the left column, it will take you to a list of community actions where you can add to that action.

Michael, have I left anything out? Did I tell our OkieLegacy Ezine readers everything they need to know? If I did leave something out, help me fill them in some more.

By the way... We have been told that Michael E. Wagner has made NWOSU's Fall 2008 President's Honor Roll. Congratulations, Michael! We are proud of you! Keep up the great work! Thanks for helping our OkieLegacy family with it's NEW facelift.
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Winter Snow for Christmas '08

Vol 10, Iss 51 We wish you all the best during the Holidays & Merry Christmas to You & Yours! Happy Winter Solstice!

'Twas four days 'til Christmas and all through the land. Shoppers were hustling for those christmas deals while children were semi-nestled in their beds...

AND... last Sunday evening with 1 inch of compacted snow we received another foot of snow by Monday morning. Our McWagner snow gauge was measuring 13 inches by now. BUT... it was compacting as well.

Between Tuesday and Wednesday we accumulated another 4 to 5 inches, BUT... our 13 inches had compacted down to 12 inches into Wednesday evening. Thursday morning we awoke to another inch of snowfall and by now our snow gauge was measuring 13 inches again, at 8 a.m., Thursday. By 10:30 a.m. of the same morning dry powdered snowfall was creeping up between the 14 to 15 inch mark. This last Thursday was a day of low visibility with the strong winds and blowing snow.

It is beautiful to watch from the inside and makes great photo-ops! BUT... if you are out driving in it, be careful -- don't be in a hurry -- watch those slippery roads, especially around the mountain lakes in the San Juans. You don't want to take a side trip down to the shoreline like this cautious Vallecito driver.

Saturday afternoon the snow had compacted from 13 inches down to 11 inches. NW Okie bundled up and went out to try to make a snowman or two, BUT... Alas, it seems that the powdery snow squashed that idea to bits of snow white powder. Great for skiers, huh?

NOW... this NW Okie is off to look for Santa in SW Colorado and gather some christmas light videos! If you have any Christmas 2008 short videos to share, send them this way (to NW Okie). Thanks!

Have a safe trip over the hills to grandma's house for the holidays and watch those slippery snow-covered by-ways!

Merry Christmas & Happy Winter Solstice! AND Remember... the greatest gift of all is something hand (home) made from the heart!
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Colorado To NW Oklahoma

Vol 10, Iss 43 [The photo on the left shows "The Pug & Sidekick" (Presidential Posse)! Front step: Duchess (The Pug) & Sadie (Sidekick) on back step, positioning for campaigning.] -- We got up early Friday morning, October 24, 2008, and packed "The Pug" and her sidekick, Sadie, into the Tundra pickup to make the journey East to NW Oklahoma along highway 160 East from SW Colorado.

Leaving around 7:00 a.m., Friday morn and pulling a trailer loaded with a '67 VW Bug and bales of hay for our Oklahoma horses, we made our long journey to Fairvalley, Oklahoma, loosing an hour in time travel. We arrived in Alva, Oklahoma around 10:00 p.m.

Traveling along hwy 160 East through eastern Colorado and into Kansas we spotted some interesting gas prices that seemed to decrease as we ventured East. We also spotted an interesting wooden creature towards the westend of one small town as it (the creature) appeared to be standing tall.

Strange creatures were not the only things we collected along our path. We just happened to snap a few photos of Kansas' famous skyscrapers of the prairies in western Kansas.

The horses along with the cattle at Fairvalley, Oklahoma were glad to see us pull up with their horse hay for the Winter approaching. The cows were mooing along with weaned calves bawling as the two groups were fenced from each other. It was that time of year!

This is a rather short newsletter this week because of our long journey East to help celebrate NWOSU's 2008 Homecoming Reunion. You can view some of those strange sitings over at our OkieLegacy - YouTube Site. See you next weekend with photo's and movies of NWOSU's parade & celebration.

Happy Birthday to Michael E. Wagner!
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Moving Weekend

Vol 10, Iss 26 Patti Page - Its A Good Day
Where has June 2008 gone? Our Independence Day (July 4th) is just around the corner! AND... things are hectic this weekend in SW Colorado for the Wagner family!

Things are being loaded as NW Okie prepares this week's OkieLegacy newsletter. You see... we are in the process of moving to our new residence closer to the mountains in the forest by a lake, North of Bayfield, Colorado here in Southwest Colorado.

I got out of the heavy lifting and loading of stuff into the UHaul truck, 'cause I needed to get this week's OkieLegacy newsletter put to bed (or published).

If you browse over to our webcam site at and, might catch a glimpse of the UHaul truck being loaded for our move the end of this month thru the 1st of July.

Gas prices in Southwest Colorado at Bayfield's Conoco had regular priced at $4.13.9. For all of you getting ready to head out to celebrate Independence Day, have a safe trip and safe fireworks display where ever you are.
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Another Place

Vol 10, Iss 23 For the past few months we have been busy scouring the classifieds for another place to lease up here in SW Colorado near the San Juan Mountains. Well! Finally... after checking out lots of local rentals, we have narrowed it down to a couple places and will be moving around the end of June or beginning of July. Hopefuly, around the end of June.

Towards the end of June we are moving to a log cabin nestled in the pines North of Bayfield, Colorado with a DSL (faster) connection than what our satellite (Hughesnet) offers us now. We may or may not keep our ( ) email, but our -- will be our main working emails.

One of our OkieLegacy readers told this NW Okie that he would make me rich and famous. As to the "Rich & Famous," that is not what I strive for in writing this weekly OkieLegacy Ezine.

This is merely a hobby and labor of love to energize my passions, fullfill my dreams and use my talents to enable others to network and connect while searching for their roots.

Have a great week and follow your passions, dreams and keep those legacy stories coming this way to share with everyone. We would love to learn more about you and you could even include a mugshot like Kenneth Updike did this week for one of his Growing Up In Oklahoma stories that we feature from time to time in our Mailbag section.
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Pugs & SW Colorado Cooler, Drier Air

Vol 10, Iss 22 Well! What these horses hear from those SW Coloradians is, "We (NW Okie, David & The Pugs) left northwest Oklahoma early last Thursday morning and arrived at Bayfield, Colorado around 6:30 p.m. MDT after about a 12 hour drive through, western Oklahoma, southwestern Kansas and southeast Colorado."

They reached the 70 degree temperatures around Walsenberg, Colorado on Hwy 160. We hear the gas prices ranged from $3.81.9 in Alva, OK to $3.95.9 on westward through Kansas and Colorado. The highest gas price was at the Springfield, Colorado station on the south edge of town -- in the $4 range for regular. maybe they should have driven to the north edge of Springfield, Colorado and found the gas prices a few cents below the $4 dollar mark.

Memorial Weekend In Oklahoma
NW Okie spent last week's Memorial weekend placing red roses on her ancestors McGill/Warwick gravestones, especially her great-uncle Wilbur Warwick (Grandmother Constance Warwick McGill's younger brother) who had died at the age of one year in 1896. Wilbur is buried in Block eight of the Alva Cemetery with other young babies who died at a young age.

Horses @ Fairvalley
One our readers told me last week, that she really enjoys seeing photos of our horses. So... for those horse enthusiasts, you can check out our OkieLegacy YouTube site for a short movie files of our horses getting a squirt of spray to control the small flies buzzing them this while we up there last week. If that link doesn't get you there, then try Horses at Fairvalley, OK.

Scissortail Flycatchers In NW OK
A few days ago, our youngest son, Robert L. Wagner, took some movie clips of a Scissortail Flycatcher that likes to frequent Alva's northend of the park down by the pond. Robert says the Scissortail is quite friendly and likes posing for the camera. Have you been to Alva's park lately?

Alva High Reunions
While we were in Alva, OK last weekend, we hear that the Alva High Class of '63 held their reunion out at the VIP Club, South of town. AND... it seems the Class of '88 Goldbugs also met that same weekend. Are there any '63 or '88 Goldbugs out there that have more information on those class reunions held last weekend?

Colorado Hummingbirds
As to the SW Colorado hummingbirds had been without hummingbird juice for the couple of weeks that NW Okie was gone. The hummingbirds are slowly coming back, but most have gone to a more productive feeder.

Duchess says, "I love this cool, drier climate, 'cause this pug doesn't have to breathe so hard to cool off here in Colorado."
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From Tornadoes To Snow

Vol 10, Iss 21 Some of us have been panting like a short-nosed Pug in this warm, humid Oklahoma Spring climate. Other two legged creatures have experienced the itchy eye syndromes of the weed/tree pollens that are high around northwest Oklahoma this time of year.

It was early last Monday, May 19, that we left the cool, dry air of SW Colorado and headed East towards NW Oklahoma. Arriving in Alva early that same evening after about 12 hours of driving following hwy 160 through Colorado, Kansas and picking up hwy 34 to the eastside of Buffalo, OK and catching Hwy 64 on into Alva, OK.

While this NW Okie was in Alva this week, a lady I asked me while we were taking our evening meal at the Alva Bowl Cafe, if I had run across anything on a 1924 fire at Whitehorse, Oklahoma that killed a person.

If anyone out there has any information or memories of this Whitehorse fire of '24, please contact NW Okie at or Helen Barrett at the Alva Review Courier. Thanks for any help that might shed some light on this story!

Towards mid-week, little did we know that strong winds would hit through Northwest Oklahoma and scattered tree limbs and destroy farm sheds a few days before the Tornadoes kept the Oklahoma weathermen busy broadcasting warnings and pictures of wall clouds spotted around Kingfisher county, Hennessey and headed NE up through the Southeast parts of Garfield County, near Enid, OK.

Roy sent us some storm information from around the Perry, OK area that occurred Saturday, May 24 and into the earlier morning hours.

We did get about 9-tenths inch of rain out at Fairvalley, OK Thursday night. Haven't checked the rain gauge since then, though.

It is about that time of year, though, isn't it? The golden shades of Wheat are just beginning to appear as it begins its ripening journey towards "Harvest Time" in these parts. The pastures have taken on a nice coat of lucious, thick green tint with the moisture they have received around here.

Meanwhile... back in the SW Colorado Rockies, in the higher elevations, they have received 4 to 7 inches of snow. Some mountain friends sent me a snapshot of the May 24, 2008 snowfall that occurred.
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On the Road To Oklahoma

Vol 9, Iss 45 We hear NW Okie is "On the Road to Oklahoma" this weekend. somewhere in Garden City, Kansas this Saturday evening -- heading towards Northwest Oklahoma for it's Centennial Celebration next weekend, November 16, 2007.

That good-looking palomino gazing over the fence is me, "Nugget." Some people back in Northwest Oklahoma used to call me "Trigger," but NW Okie renamed me after her dad's old palomino stallion that Gene McGill raised from a colt when NW Okie was just a small child.

Anyway... that spotted paint horse grazing on hay behind me is NW Okie's painthorse, "Quoti." That is short for the Cherokee name, "Diquoti."

The youngest mare in this pasture is Maggie. She is somewhere around here. I thinks she is out in the pasture watching the dozen or so deer grazing as the 4-point buck stands guard a little ways up the sloping hill to the south pasture.

David and Duchess are watching over us while NW Okie and Sadie are on the road to Oklahoma.

NW Okie wanted me to run this past everyone and see how some of you might feel if we moved our "OkieLegacy Ezine" to Monday, instead of Saturday. We will be thinking seriously about it for the next few weeks to see what the majority of the readers feel about it. Email NW Okie at Thanks!

Hi! Ho! Silver! As they say in the old TV western movies! Remember that western on the telly?
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Vol 9, Iss 43 Last Sunday saw a cold front heading through the Rocky mountains and dropping 4 to 5 inches of snow as far South as Walsenberg and LaVeta, Colorado.

The pugs and I headed out of Alva last Sunday morning and made our nightly stop at LaJunta, Colorado. Monday morning we headed West on Colorado highway 10 and took this and other photos of the snow scenes we encountered as we got closer to Walsenberg, Colorado.

This weekend is a lot calmer, warmer compared to last weekend. Did you get a look at the bright Hunter's Moon last night?

Have a safe Halloween of trick or treaters next week! AND... Happy Birthday to our son, Michael Wagner, October 26.
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Duchess Corner

Vol 9, Iss 26 Please excuse our tardiness this week and next. Besides gardening, building a water-fountain, we are also in the process of heading out to California for a week.

A nephew on the Wagner side of the family is getting married next Saturday, June 7, 2007. David and I will be heading out West to Los Angeles, California (near Costa Mesa, CA area) on July 3rd and passing through Flagstaff, AZ, Grand Canyon area and other points of interest along the way to our California destination. If we should pass through your neck of the woods, give us a shout at our email address: We would love to stop, meet and say "Hello!"

As we mentioned earlier, next week's newsletter will also be running late and may be published on Sunday (July 8, 2007) instead of Saturday (July 7, 2007). We want to thank you for your patient understanding while we make this journey westward, July 3rd through July 12, 2007. We shall see what our digital, movie camera may capture along the way.

Hey, Joel & Lanie, hope to see you around July 11th on our return to Colorado through Nevada. Terry, maybe we can catch the Kent family in Napa, California around July 10th. Cousin Stan Paris, I don't have your address, but know you are out there in California some place. Drop me an email and let me know. Maybe I can make it to your neck of the woods, also. We will keep in touch as to exact arrival and departures. Thanks!
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Duchess Corner

Vol 9, Iss 23 While our yellow, pink roses, peonies and other flowers were blooming this week, we were feeling a June 2007 freeze during mid-week -- after the Wednesday Winds blew in gustily at 60 to 70 mph here in the southwest valley of Colorado.

It cooled down considerably in the valley and left a "little" snow in the mountains. AND... another freeze followed Thursday evening, but I got the garden covered with a plastic covering Thursday night -- Not on Wednesday, though!

After that first freeze Wednesday evening, we found ourselves having to snip the tops of our tomato plants. We expect that will set back our tomatoes. AND... we had some green tomatoes along with lots of blooms. Oh, well! Que Sera Sera!

The zucchini and cucumbers did not fair to well, though. They were welted beyond any help! On the good side... NW Okie's herb garden looks pretty good, though, with the two kinds of basil, parsley, cilantro, orange mint, peppermint, thyme and rosemary.

As to our SW Colorado Gas Prices... I checked this morning in Bayfield, Colorado and regular was $3.459, down 8-cents from a couple days ago, with 10-cents difference between premium to premium plus. Diesel is still lowest at the pumps coming in at $3.039. Those 25-cent gas prices we baby-boomers experienced long gone in the mid-1960s are gone forever. Remember when we cruised the streets with friends and our quarters we saved for the gallons of gas we used? NOW... this NW Okie has lots of quarters, but a quarter won't buy a gallon of gas anymore, will it?! ... LOL

Happy Birthday to our youngest son, Robert L. Wagner!
Happy Birthday to John Edwards of North Carolina!

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Duchess Corner

Vol 8, Iss 30 Everyone needs a Rainbow shining in their lives now and then! So -- let us share this southwest Colorado rainbow that we captured the other evening after a light thundershower. We don't know if the picture does it justice, but hope we captured the beautiful full colors that we saw with the naked eye.

This week we have come across some information concerning the 1910 Woods county attorney, Claud McCrory, that resigned from that possession around January, 1911. It seems McCrory's health and the stress of prosecuting the "Old Opera House Murder Trial" had taken its toll on McCrory -- that being one of the reasons that he resigned in 1911 (according to the McCrory family legacy).

Another thing we are in search of is Northwestern's song that was titled "Old Northwestern" or "Castle On the Hill." We found a "Castle On the Hill" poem written by Thelma Meyers that appeared in the 1938 Ranger Yearbook. Could this be the lyrics to the "Old Northwestern" song?

Happy 37th Anniversary to David & Linda (McGill) Wagner, July 30, 2006!
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Duchess Corner

Vol 8, Iss 23 We give you this rose from our garden as a present for your patience, understanding and staying connected with this NW Okie and her two Pugs. We appreciate everyone for helping us learn and preserve our memories and heritage. We know we couldn't do it without you. Thanks to you all! You can also view more of our Roses & Tomatoes at Oakie Webshots - Roses & Tomatoes Album.

We understand that some of you couldn't get last week's newsletter to open last Sunday. Our database had locked up after someone tried to insert a comment and had some trouble. After repairing our database and submitting a troubleticket, we had it working again the next day. We are sorry for any inconvenience that it may have caused some or all of our readers. Thanks for your patience and understanding.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Jack & Robert! There are a few birthdays of special people this weekend, June 10, 2006 that we would like to send a special "Happy Birthday." Happy Birthday to Jack Riddle of Ignacio, Colorado and to our youngest son, Robert Wagner. We also understand that June 10 is the Queen of United Kingdom official birthday. Hey! Jack & Robert, you are in good company, aren't you?! Here is a southwest Colorado sunset reflecting on the clouds in the southern skies south of Bayfield, Colorado -- just for you this Friday evening.
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Happy 1st B-Day, Sadie Sadie...

Vol 8, Iss 16 Our Sweet, Snoozing Sadie Sadie, (pictured here) will be celebrating her first birthday, April 25, 2006, Tuesday. She is almost as smart as Duchess, but has a way to go ... yet!

For those of you we have not explained to so far, the reason for the second copy of last week's "The OkieLegacy Ezine" arriving in your "Inbox", Tuesday morning (4/18/2006) is because we were testing our database mailing list with our hosting server to see if we had the solution to our problem worked out. Yep! We think we are on the cyber-road again!

After finding the solutions to keep our hosting server from marking it as 'SPAM', we are back in business again. NOW ... our hosting server tells us our emails have a rating of 0.1 on the spam scale. If emails fall over a 5.0 rating, then it gets shoved to the 'SPAM' folder and not sent. WHEW! BUT... This is probably more than you ever wanted to know, huh?

NOW!... We are venturing onto another challenge & adventure for this NW Okie! LOL... That's just what this "Old" Lady needs! We have been setting up two NEW databases to make their appearance in the near future ("OkieLegacy Genealogy" and "OkieLegacy US History Collections").

We are still in the process of working out the bugs before we finally enter data and clean, organize data on our OkieLegacy website. How do you feel and what are your suggestions as to a more interactive, searchable database driven website? That is our plan for now, anyway. We will let you know when the debute shall take place.

Gas Prices Rising Again...
We heard this Saturday morning that Oklahoma gas prices went up another 2 cents this morning. Our Perry, Oklahoma informant says, "Independent stations went back to $2.779 while the branded one's went to $2.799 headed toward that 'magic' $3 they're predicting. I have a sinking feeling that we are seeing our lowest prices right now and that as vacation-time travel gets into full swing -- prices will soar higher again. We may yet see $4 or $5 per gallon."

Some have been stating, "Since it's 'the good old summertime,' I think I might have to get my motor-scooter running again. Perhaps I may even put some bicycles back together and see how much I can sell some of them for. I probably have 20 or more just gathering dust in my storage area. Those things don't even need the hay or oats that your horse would consume (and there's no 'exhaust' to be concerned about)."

Durango, Colorado's gas prices Friday were between $2.929 thru $3.029 for regular. BUT... Premium Plus was another 20-cents higher. Saturday in Bayfield, Colorado gas prices are surging ahead of Oklahoma's gas prices to over the $3.00 range. Bayfield's Conoco station had regular Gas at $3.029 and Premium Plus at $3.229.

For a second vehicle, we may have to retreat back to the horse and buggy days ... you know, the surrey with the fringe on top buggy. BUT... the hay, oats and upkeep on a horse probably wouldn't save any more money. We don't drag the streets or squares like those days of our youthful years, either. We need to do more cycling and walking, though!

Speaking of horses...
Cassie (5 year mare) had her 2006 colt April 17, 2006. NO! We have seen the NEW colts ... Yet! Here is a list of our other horses -- CLICK HERE We haven't laid eyes on either of them as yet! Cassie is back in NW Oklahoma at Clarks Quarterhorse Farm, East of Alva, Oklahoma, just East of the Dacoma Blacktop road. If you are driving out by Clarks Quarterhorses any time soon, we would love for you to stop and asked Bud or Lovina if you can take a picture of "Wagner's Cassie mare & NEW colt." Anyone out there looking for a good sweet quarterhorses? See Bud or Lovina Clark, P. O. Box 803, Alva, Oklahoma 73717!
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Vol 8, Iss 9 Opening of the northwest corner of the Old Castle on the Hill campus. In other words... only the rubble remains of the women's dorm (Oklahoma Hall) on the norhtwest corner of NWOSU's campus, in Alva, Oklahoma. What a sight! This photograph was taken last week by R.L. Wagner. Thanks, Robb!

As to our progress of inputting back issues of "The OkieLegacy Ezine" into our database, we are up (or back) to Vol. 6, Iss. 33 so far. We still have some mailbag features for those issues to fill in yet. We thank you for your patience and understanding while we slowly tredge along.

Seems to this writer that we jogged a few memories again last week. You can review last week's comments through the links in our Mailbag corner - "The Rest of the Story."

We learned of one of the professors (John Cameron) that taught the air cadet pilots at NSTC, in 1944. AND... several have stated that, "Yes!" Shirley Temple's husband was stationed as a training pilot at Northwestern in Alva, Oklahoma around that time.

AND... The 92nd College Training Detachment was the last group to be trained at NSTC in 1944. It was July, 1944 that they were shipped out to Fredrick, Oklahoma before going to San Antonio Aviation Cadet Center. This information came from Tom McCarrick of California. McCarrick also mentioned that he played trumpet and led the dance band at the "Cadet Club" for the St. Patricks Dance, March 14, 1944.

That bit of information reminded me of my Uncle Bob McGill that played the trumpet in a dance band back around the time of 1938 when he was going to school at Kemper Military, in Booneville, Missouri. AND... a group of that same band played on a voyage to Europe aboard the ship Europa, during the Summer of '38.

Enough of memories for now! As February passes to March this last week -- Fat Tuesday, Mardi Gras and Ash Wednesday were ushered in like a lamb around the valley area of SW Colorado. What have you given up for Lent for the next 40-some days?

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Duchess Corner

Vol 8, Iss 5 We seemed to have jogged a few memories of old cistern tales out there. Thanks to everyone that sent in their stories. Also, we forwarded those stories to "The Prairie Connection."

Just for a few minutes let us put ourselves into the footprints of our ancestors who had no electricity and running water to their homestead. To get water to the house for drinking, cooking and washing we might step out onto the back porch. We would crank up the old pump which would then start a chain of little buckets going round and round while it dumped water out of the spout into the bucket.

Do you remember the hand pump which brought that sweet, soft water up in small cups to fill the water bucket for drinking, cooking, bathing, etc...? AND... Never wasting a drop of that precious water.

AND... what about those community baths we would take in galvanized tubs setting on the back porch. Letting the baby of the family go first in the clean water while it would then proceed on down to the oldest before it was dumped out.

We would have the rain water washing off the roofs during a rainstorm into metal gutters and a filtering box -- filling an underground cistern or wooden barrels above ground. It was a sweet, soft water. Unlike the water wells of hard, mineral water.

Remember as a young child looking down into that dark hole with a claustrophobic, scary feeling of what was down there. How far would I fall?

I remember the concrete cistern we had out at our ranch north of Waynoka when I was just a young girl (perhaps in the early to mid-1950's). It seemed at the time that it was about 3 or 4 feet wide -- not sure how deep, though. It had a concrete lid with rebar handles set into it for lifting in and out to fill it with water hauled from Alva, Oklahoma. It did not have a crank/pump outside, though. It seems like it was piped to the electric pump in a room on the back porch. Those memories are vague. I suppose my two older sisters memories of that concrete cistern might be a bit clearer.

How big was your cistern? 5 or 6 feet wide? 12 to 15 feet deep? 30 feet deep? What kind of filtering systems did you use? Pebbles in the bottom of the cisterns? Big sand vats that allowed the water to filter through and drain into a big underground storage hole with a bucket chain crank system on the top?

Do you remember when it came time to clean the deep, dark hole in the ground? It seemed like the smallest one in the family had the responsibility, honor (if that what it was) to be lowered down into the bottom of the cistern to clean the debris that might have settled at the bottom. Meanwhile, the adult would send down buckets of clean water and haul up in buckets the debris that you might find down below.

We would love to share your old photos of Cook Shacks, Cisterns, threshing machines, etc... in our OkieLegacy Ezine. If you have a scanner, scan them to a jpg file and send them our way to: IF NOT, you can snail-mail us a copy (or original, which we can mail back to you). Our Snail-mail address is: OkieLegacy Ezine
c/o Linda Wagner
PO Box 619
Bayfield, CO 81122-0619

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Okie's NW Corner

Vol 6, Iss 15

It has been beautiful weather around the NW parts earlier this week until Friday, 9 April 2004, when a cool front and showers brought approximately 1/2 inch of rain in our NW corner -- with promises of more cool, wet stuff to follow this weekend. Southern & Central parts were hit with tornado warnings and hail. We spent most of the weekend vaccinating horses and getting ready to vaccinate more horses next week. It may be a bit cooler, wetter this weekend, though, for all those Easter bunnies, bonnets and parades.

Speaking of Easter... do you remember or have any memories of Easter parades in your neck of the woods? Were there Easter Bonnets on parade or just picnics in the park with egg hunts by the children? Do you remember the lyrics to that famous Irving Berlin song, Easter Parade? (See lyrics towards the bottom of Oakie's NW Corner). My Easter bonnett is a tan/red, embroidered farm cap that my friends brought me back from the Shawnee Horse Sale last weekend. It is tan with a red bill and a horse embroidered on the front and reads, "Wagner Quarterhorses, Alva, OK."

Besides getting a refresher course at Parelli's Horsemanship - 2-day seminar last weekend (saturday & Sunday, 3 & 4th April 2004) at OKC State Fair Arena last weekend -- We saw our OSU Cowboys barely get beat by 2 points when Georgia Tech advanced to the Final Two at San Antonio, Texas. BUT... Monday, Connecticut Yukons wiped out Georgia Tech... I am told. I missed that game because we were working horses and updating our horse database with new horses/ 2004 colts. We did get re-motivated to begin working on our own horses again this Spring, though. Now... If we can just find enough hours in the day to try out some of the things we learned/re-learned.

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MERRY CHRISTMAS From the Bottom of Our Heart.s...

Vol 7, Iss 51 To Keep this week's newsletter/ezine simple and short for this special weekend, we have included a couple of this writer's favorite Christmas poem and a 1897 editorial: Yes, Virginia, There Is A Santa Claus -- 'Twas the Night Before Christmas.

See All of you next week for New Years Eve! If you want to share some of your New Years resolutions with us, send them along to Linda - Email: Thanks for making our seventh volume a memorable one for everyone and The OkieLegacy. We could not do it without you!

This Santa is off to finish up a few things that were listed on her list. So........... From The OkieLegacy Family (including Duchess & Sadie)... MERRY CHRISTMAS from the bottom of our hearts -- A Prosperous, Happy New Year 2006 for ALL -- !
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Vol 7, Iss 49 Here it is Saturday afternoon by the fireplace in the valley of southwest Colorado -- trying to keep warm.

Friday afternoon in Southern Oklahoma a friend told me that it got a bit warmer there during the day, but when the sun went down, it got really cold. They also tell me that by Sunday afternoon in parts of Oklahoma that it will be back up to 60F. AND... Alva will probably be a bit colder in the Northwest quadrant of Oklahoma.

While we were rearranging things to find a place for our christmas tree and decorations this year, Duchess found herself and her suspicous looking twin lurking on the other side of the mirror in our little office area off of the living room. It wasn't "Alice" through the "Looking Glass." It was Duchess!

Sadie has been a bit nosy around the christmas decorations this week. With "bad dog" being shouted at her on numerous occasions. So... Duchess' and her mirror-twin-self were hired to keep and eye on Sadie. Notice Duchess keeping an eye on her twin. AND... Sadie knows she has done something wrong. She takes that reclining, posture of a pup on her backside and knows she has made her human being upset with her. BUT... she's just a pup and will hopefully, quickly learn.

Here is a glimpse of the Wagner's Christmas holiday decor this year (December, 2005) for the holidays! Notice the two sleeping, snoozing Pugs in the recliner next to the tree. Well! You can't really see that black pug (Sadie). BUT... she is to the right of Duchess. It is just one of those reclining moments of NW Okie's two pugs after a day of decorating (or un-decorating for some)!

Yep!... Just two weeks before Christmas! We are still wondering where the month of November, October and September have gone! AND... Where is the snow! In New England, we suppose! Here in SW Colorado we are (probably) about two months behind in our snowfall for this year.

Do you need some unique gift ideas for someone special? Check out Cindy McAnulty's handcrafted Selenite Crystal Necklaces made from crystals found at the Great Salt Plains, in Nescatunga, Alfalfa County, Oklahoma. Cindy's Email address is listed in our Mailbag Corner below.

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Vol 7, Iss 48 Well! We have survived turkey, dressing, and the works of last weekend. Also, we have had one of those girl talks with our little Sadie earlier this week. You know... the bird, bees and little boy dogs talk. Sadie turned 7-months old Tuesday, November 29, 2005 and started her first heat. She is seen here wearing her little denim pants. Someone ask me if we were going to get her spayed. The final decision is still being thought through. BUT... the thoughts for now are to let her have a litter of puppy pugs before she gets spayed.

Last week we mentioned about the snow we had in the Colorado Rockies last year at about this time (15 to 16 inhes or more). We failed to tell you that this years snow is considerably lower in accumulated inches, drier. We did get some snow the last part of this week, but we are still behind from last years snowfall. Hope it really snows.... SOON!

As for the unleaded regular gas prices this week, Bayfield, Colorado is down by one-cent this weekend ($2.419). Diesel was $2.79 at Bayfield, Colorado. One of our readers last week mentioned in the comments that North Carolina was $2.039. An OKC (Oklahoma City) reader mentioned that Thanksgiving Eve gas was $1.86. Have you seen it lower than that?

Here at the OkieLegacy we are always looking for histories, legacies to share each week. If you have memories of general stores, school, farming/ranching, sports, weddings, sweetshops, millinery shops and other retail businesses on the plains of Oklahoma Terriotry, please share them with us. You can Email Linda ( or -- or -- You can snail-mail your history and photos to Linda Wagner, PO Box 619, Bayfield, Colorado 81122-0619. We will return your original photos, BUT... we would rather have a copy to work with. Thanks for helping us learn, preserve our heritage this year.

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OkieLegacy Goes To The Dogs...

Vol 7, Iss 47 Well! That NW Okie has finally let me at the keyboard once again. BUT... I seem to have a little black shadow hanging all over me and trying to take over the keyboard. I told Sadie, "If you want to help, just sit quietly and watch how things are down. You will get your chance at this on your first birthday in April."

Meanwhile, NW Okie has been busy typing up an article for the Prairie Connection, 2005 December Issue. If you don't subscribe to the Prairie Connection, then you might want to get your subscription in before it's too late. It's a great newspaper filled with great stories of our past pioneers. Any amount you provide over $30 may be used as a tax deductible contribution. To subscribe for $20 or $30, make your check payable to The Balmer Fund, Inc., and mail to: Prairie Connection - 121 West Main Street - Harper, KS 67058. You can email Rosalea Hostetler at her email: if you want to share some of your pioneer stories in "The Prairie Connection."

As for photos of me and my shadow... Check out our Vallecito Webshots - The Pugs Directory. While you are over there, glance through our youngest son's photographs of Colorado in the RL Wagner copyrighted 2005 album.

We did hear from a few readers in Georgia ($1.999 to $2.019) and Ohio ($1.959, November 20th, 2005) concerning the unleaded gas prices. Saturday, November 25th, 2005, in Bayfield, Colorado we saw gas prices drop 10-cents ($2.439) from what it was last week.

NW Okie wanted me to ask, "If any of you NW Oklahomans (or former Oklahomans) out there ever heard of the Hyck Place located two (2) blocks south of the bank in Goltry, Oklahoma. We understand that the building was moved from Karoma, Oklahoma by a Mr. Hyck.

Also... Remember last week's photo showing the Main Street of Goltry looking west from the corner of Broadway & Main? We found out through a readers comment that the bank building is on the right and the former "Bogdans Drug Store" is on the left. Thanks to Jim Bradley for that history tidbit.

This is a short newsletter this weekend and we know it is a day late. BUT... with all the Thanksgiving holiday eating, football and gathering with family & friends, we thought you wouldn't mind this weekend letting "The OkieLegacy go to the dogs." We are Thankful for everyone of you who write-in and share pieces of your past with us all. Thanks again! View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

NW Okie's Corner

Vol 7, Iss 42 Hello! My name is Sadie. I'm the little black pug puppy (almost 7 months now). That distinguished looking grey schnauzer on the right is my friend, Ruff.

Duchess has told me so much about Y'all. Duchess said I could fill-in for her this week, since she is kind of under the weather. She ate something the other day that didn't agree with her. We are not quite sure what, though. Anyway, we found a Vet open on Saturday and took her to the Vet this morning, because she had her tail uncurled, between her hind legs and just feeling yucky. So... While she is taking it easy this weekend, let this "little black pup" entertain you this week.

Remember this puppy picture of Duchess when she must have been almost 6-months old... or so? That picture was taken July 1, 2003, during the hot Summer, when the Wagner's were living in OKC. I am told that Duchess was small enough back then that she could skinny through the wrought iron patio fence. Duchess' escape lasted for a few hours into the late afternoon hours at the apartment complex. The NW Okie had "Wanted Posters" tacked all over the complex that hot Summer day. You couldn't get Duchess through the fence now, though.

I'm suppose to let some of you Oklahomans out there know that the cool front that passed your way towards the last half of the week was courtesy of us out west in SW Colorado and New Mexico. We hear you all were heating up into the mid-90's before the cool front came through. Then the temperatures dropped about 30-something degrees. That same front dropped over 2-inches of rain & graupel here in the SW Colorado valley where we live. That's alot for this high plains area... I am told!

The NW Okie says you all in Oklahoma are paying about 60-cents less for unleaded gas than she is in SW Colorado. This weekend we found Durango, Colorado gas prices at $2.859.

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Genius Is 1% Inspiration

Vol 7, Iss 10 They say, "Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration." We can believe that! That one percent inspiration has had Wagner's oldest son (Michael) and Oakie laboring all this week with the NEW LOOK for The Okie Legacy and it's database-driven newsletter/ezine. Perhaps things will start to settle down for awhile before "Oakie" has anymore Inspirations! We couldn't have done it without you, Michael.

FYI... It was Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931), Inventor, whom that quote was made. The source of the quote came from Edison's autobiography, Life of Thomas Edison (1932). Thomas Edison was a tireless tinkerer who loved to boast of his prodigious capacity for labor. Once ensconced as the "Wizard of Menlo Park" and regarded as America's resident genius, he strove to live up to his reputation as "a fiend of work." It is said that he drove himself and his staff to the point of exhaustion, sometimes working around the clock to meet a deadline. At his death Edison had 1,300 U.S. and foreign patents to his credit.

Sometimes this Precious Pug thinks Oakie's inspirations creates "a fiend for work" for those around her. BUT... we do try to take breaks now and then in the Spring-like mountain sunshine that has been coming out this week. I hear our next inspiration is to reorganize all our photos that we have online into their perspective categories on the OkieLegacy Photo Gallery. With Spring just around the corner, this Precious Pug may take a much needed break.

As we said a few days ago in our Notice of NEW Interactive Look, we will be adding the "Mailbag Corner" features for viewing during the week with Duchess & Oakie's SW Corner following on Saturday. After each feature there will be a "View Comments" and "Write Comments" link. If you have any information to add or share, don't be shy -- just Click on "Write Comments" and give us a tryout. BUT... keep your comments clean, decent. We do have the power to "delete" those "unwanted" comments.

Just Remember... With everyone's cooperation, consideration, understanding and decency, together we can do almost anything. We can share, preserve our knowledge, thoughts, history, genealogy -- connect with those thousands of miles away and around the World.

We would like to see this "Newsletter/Ezine" become an Interactive Forum that you can use to Connect -- Share your Genealogy, Legacies, Memories, Old Photos, & Knowledge of growing up in Oklahoma and other surround states. We also realize that some of you were born and raised in Oklahoma, but for some reason have moved with your families to other parts of the World -- with a longing to connect once again with memories of your past -- searching for your geneaology roots.

We appreciate those of you that have already replied, "I too would like to show my appreciation for the new format. There have been many times when I wanted to make a comment, now I can. Maybe too often." View/Write Comments (count 5)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Holiday Greetings To All

Vol 10, Iss 50 It has been snowing every few days here in southwest Colorado. Monday, Dec. 8, 2008, we wokeup to 2 inches of wet snow. I measured it on my NEW McWagner Snow Gauge that my youngest son made me.

Friday night and again Saturday night another snow storm came through. We did not get what the higher elevations received this weekend and the snow seemed a bit drier and colder.

As I sit here at the living room window with my laptop composing this week's newsletter, we have had intermittent snow, wind and sunshine on this lazy Sunday, eleven days until Christmas!

What is it doing in your neck of the woods?

Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas To All!
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Giving Thanks & Genealogy Info

Vol 10, Iss 47 As a dry, cold front settled through Southwest Colorado by mid-week we encountered gas prices falling below the $2 mark in Durango, Colorado.

Also... Nugget, Quoti and Maggie were caught on film this week with friends at Clark's West Ranch in Northwest Oklahoma.

Meanwhile, NW Okie has been busy updating and moving her genealogy database to a new site. We deleted our genealogy database.

NOW... Our Paris-Conover-Hurt ( can be found at these two links - (Paris Family Site).

When you click the MyHeritage site link you will be able to pick between the "Paris-Conover-Hurt" pages and the McGill-Warwick-Gwin-Hull & Wagner-Williams-Zimmerman .

I also received this week some Louthan family history and information from Tom Fetters in Illinois. I haven't got it all transcribed yet, but I am still working on merging that information into my maternal genealogy data for the Paris/Conover/Hurt family file.

There are two different genealogy sites we are trying out, the MyHeritage site, which allows photos and comments, and the site which has the traditionally, indented family tree form -- which makes for easier viewing and navigating.

See what you think and let me know which one you like the best. If you have a genealogy site that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to use, we would love to hear from you.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING is just around the corner. Take a few moments and reflect on things around you, and for what you are thankful for this year.
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Kron Prinz Wilhelm Ship & Wagner Ancestrial Photos...

Vol 7, Iss 28 While back in SW Colorado we had a great visit with our brother and his wife (Lou & Kay (Westindick) Wagner) last weekend. They spent a couple of days with us before they headed off to the NW corner of America to visit other family members.

We looked and reminisced over old Wagner family photos. Here's a Link to our WAGNER - ZIMMERMAN - WILLIAMS Geneaology Database.

One of those old photos was of the Kronprinz Wilhelm ship of the German Empire. How and Why that picture was in the collection of old family photos... we are not sure! Did it haul some Wagners to America? What was the fascination with this photo for one of the Wagner ancestors? That is what we are wondering. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Alva High Class of 66...

Vol 7, Iss 27 Last Saturday evening the '66 Classic Bugs & Bugettes of Alva High met at "Champs Bar & Grill" in Alva, Oklahoma with the Classes of '64 & '65 for their Class Reunions.

These are the Class of '66 that showed up for their 39th Reunion. There were some of the female's married names that have slipped our memories for now. BUT... if you can help us out, you could enlighten us and leave a comment below. Their maiden names are in parenthesis. Not pictured are Jan Little and Carolyn (Deinlein) Sample.
Front-row, left to right... Kathy (Kamas), Carolyn (Graves), Johnette (Scribner) Beagley, Linda (Hada) Murphy, Connie (Henderson) Woodson, Gwenell (Johnson), Linda (Leeper) Leist, Jean (McGuire), Linda (McGill) Wagner;
Second-row, left to right... Jim Scribner, Tom Blue, Allan Wilson, Hadley Hintergardt, Patsy (Hager) Headlee, Stan Kline, Rhonda (Meredith) Stephenson;
Back-row, left to right... Kirk Fisher, Jim Harrington.

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600 Block of Barnes Avenue - Alva, OK...

Vol 7, Iss 25 We have been reading in our Footprints Across Woods County history book -- looking for information on the Pribble Hotel, DeGeers Grocery Store, Illinois Cigar Store and Alva Body & Fender Works.

We didn't find anything yet about DeGeers Grocery store, but did find some information about Charles Frazer Grocery Store that was located on the North side of the square at 506 Flynn, in Alva, Oklahoma.

As to the Alva Body & Fender Works... In 1937 it was owned and operated by Harry & Del Brunsteter at 630 Barnes Avenue. In 1946 the Packard contract was accepted and created a need for more space -- so a new building was constructed at 401 Barnes and by December 6, 1946 the move was made. In May 1961, Del Brunsteter sold the business to Raymond Rhodes.

Remember Brunsteter's Illinois Cigar Store? In 1918 it was owned and operated by W.E. "Earl" Brunsteter as an oasis for recreation and noted for its carpeting, marble fixtures, polished spitoons, and respectability. In 1926 Earl sold the cigar store to Bill Brand who operated and maintained it through the 1950s.

Someone told me the beginning of this week that the DeGeer General Store might have been in the 600 block of Barnes Avenue about two doors west of the old McGill Brothers swimming pool. The old swimming pool has since been filled, AND... the building two doors or so west of it may still be there. BUT... which building was Brand's Cigar Store? If there is anyone else out there that could enlighten us concerning the DeGeer Grocery Store, don't be shy. Leave us a comment here or email Linda at EMAIL: Thanks! Here is a link to NW OkieLegacy Webshots - 600 Block of Barnes Ave, Alva. View/Write Comments (count 1)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Wednesday Morning Backing on Maple Street...

Vol 7, Iss 21 Well! Oakie is at it again! Trying to put the blame on me and my friend, Ruff! It wasn't this Pug and Ruff that was backing out of the driveway Wednesday morning. It was Oakie!

Here's How It Really Happened: It was the morning of 25 May 2005, about 9:15 a.m., Wednesday morning. The Go-dogs (Duchess & Ruff) were minding their own business in the house. If you listen to Oakie's story it would sound like, "it was all Duchess' doing ... coaxing poor Ruff into taking her for a cruise around the block and to the coffee & donut shop."

Anyway, Oakie was backing out of the driveway of 1027 Maple, Wednesday morning, around 9:15 a.m., at approximately 2 or 3-mph. Oakie was looking over her right shoulder and straight back through to the back window of the Toyota TUNDRA while backing into the westbound lane, in the 1000 block of Maple Street when she bumped something behind that was allegedly in her blindspot. She stopped! She pulled forward and stopped again -- got out to check the damages -- got back in the Toyota TUNDRA (pickup) -- pulled back into the driveway. She then proceeded to gather her license, insurance form and digital camera. She proceeded across the street to the neighbors house to find the owner. With Insurance verification, drivers license information, Oakie offers to exchange information with the owner of the parked '98 Ford Explorer Sport. The young girl, whose vehicle was parked facing West along the north curb of Maple Street, decides to call her father. The father instructs her to call the police for this minor backing incident.

SO... while we wait for what seems like 15 to 20 minutes for the police to arrive on the scene, Oakie is out taking digital photos of the two vehicles for her insurance company. We didn't just get one police officer, but two... arriving in two vehicles for this backing incident with probably only less than $500 to $600 damages.

One of the frontpage sub-headlines in the local newspaper stated a few days later: "WEDNESDAY MORNING ACCIDENT -- Around 9:15 a.m. Wednesday morning, Linda McGill Wagner, 57, of Alva, driving a green 2001 Toyota Tercel, backed into a parked red 1998 Ford Explorer owned by Tony Reed, also of Alva. Reed's Ford was legally parked facing west in the 1000 block of Maple. Wagner backed from north out of a driveway across the eastbound lane into Reed's vehicle, hitting Reed's Explorer in the driver's side front fender at approximately 10 mph. Safety equipment was in use in the accident. Reed's Explorer received approximately $500 damage. Wagner's Toyota sustained damage estimated at $600. No citations were issued in the accident. Officer Michael Eckhardt noted Wagner for improper backing."

Oakie was thinking that they got her age wrong, but that was about the only thing that was correct. AND... We believe there is a BIG difference between a Toyota TERCEL (as stated in the newspaper) and a Toyota TUNDRA, which Oakie drives! AND... the speed wasn't 10-mph, but only about 2 or 3-mph. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Our Family Genealogy Database...

Vol 7, Iss 16 This Genealogy & Family Tree stuff is like "A Neverending Story" ... There is NEVER a Finishing point. Meanwhile our work on updating our genealogy files to our family database is progressing rapidly on our MCGILL / PARIS / WAGNER Family Tree. We spent the week inputting our PARIS/CONOVER (our mother's side of the family) into the database. We still need to input our HURT family. There are CONOVER / COUWENHOVEN / KOUWENHOVEN / VAN KOUWENHOVEN ancestors that date back to the mid-1500s, in Holland (Netherlands). Our PARIS family tree has over 1500 persons so far. Stay Tuned for Updates in the next few weeks! View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Our NEW Grand Niece

Vol 7, Iss 13 March 24, 2005 we received news that our NEW grand niece made her appearance known. That's our grand-niece on David's side of the family. Erin Lillian was born 0743 EST, March 24, 2005, in Atlanta, GA, weighing in at 6lb. 14 oz., 21 inches. We hear that Mother and baby Erin are doing well. Welcome, Erin, into our family!

That has spurred this family historian to dust-off the family genealogy program and do some updating. BUT... I have had to start from scratch to rebuild the family genealogy database. Since I've changed computers over the last few years, I can't seem to find any of my "gedcom" files. I've had to print out my webpages and start inputting families in from scratch -- starting with my "Family Tree Legend" -- -- MCGILL Genealogy. I'm hoping to get the WARWICK, HULL/HOHL, GWIN/GUINN/GWINN, PARIS, HURT & WAGNER families added in the coming weeks. I know there are programs (ged2html) out there that translate gedcom files to gendex.txt files to use on your webpages. BUT... is there any program out there that will translate the gendex.txt files back to gedcom files? It seems like a few years ago there was something like that. It would sure help about now in the rebuilding the family genealogy database. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Walking With Sweet Silly Sadie

Vol 18, Iss 27 Alva, OK - I know my human has been a little distracted this last week, 'cause during my Doctor Vet annual wellness checkup, we found out this eleven year old Pug has the beginning of cataracts in both of my eyes. I Know some humans use seeing eye dogs to get around. I guess this "Sweet Silly Sadie" is going to use NW Okie as her seeing eye human.

This weeks OkieLegacy Ezine/Tabloid is a mixture of the Warwick family lineage of NW Okie, and how much she has compiled over the years. Plus other items from the 1912 Republican & Progressive Bull-Moose split and Pres. Teddy Roosevelt's campaign fora third term as President.

Major Jacob Warwick (1743-1826)
From the Historical Sketches of Pocahontas County, West Virginia, by William T. Price, page 234, we found this Warwick legacy of Jacob Warwick, who is the 6th Great Uncle of NW (Linda Mcgill Wagner).

The compiler of these memorials, deeply impressed that something should be attempted to perpetuate the memory of these persons (Jacob Warwick and Mary Vance, his wife) had availed himself of such facilities as had been in reach. He was largely indebted to John Warwick, Esq., Judge James W. Warwick, and Mrs. Elizabeth McLaughlin for the information from which these sketches were compiled. All these persons have since died, at a very advance age. This article first appeared in the "Southern Historical Magazine for August, 1892. Mrs. McLaughlin, a daughter of William Sharp, lived with Mrs. Warwick at intervals, as a friend and visitor in the family, and for whom Mrs. Warwick manifested special attachment.

The father of Jacob Warwick came to Augusta County, from Williamsburg, Virginia, during colonial times, between 1740-50. William Warwick was a Lieutenant in the service of the British Crown, and was employed in surveying and locating land grants in Pocahontas County, which County included territory of which States have since been formed. Lieutenant Warwick located and occupied the Dunmore property for his own use. He married Elizabeth Anne Dunlap, near Middlebrook. He was one of the English entry whose families settled in Virginia in consequence of political reverses in England, and whose history was so graphically given in Thackeray's Virginians.

After operating extensively in lands; and securing the Dunmore property in his own name, Lieutenant Warwick concluded to visit England. He never returned, and being heard of no more, he was given up fro dead. Meanwhile, Mrs. Warwick settled on the Dunmore property, had it secured by deed to Jacob and afterwards married Robert Sitlington, but remained at Dunmore a number of years after her second marriage. Jacob Warwick seemed to have remembered but little of his own father, and always cherished the highest filial regard for Mr. Sitlington. When Jacob attained his majority, Mr. Sitlington moved to his own property near old Millboro, the estate now occupied by Mrs. Dickinson, daughter of the later Andres Sitlington. Upon her decease, Mrs. Sithointon left a bequest of one thousand dollars to Windy Cove Church the annual interest of which was to be paid to the pastor of that congregation. For a long while it was managed by the Messrs Sloan. In the hands of Stephen Porter it was finally lost through financial failure.

Upon reading legal age and coming into possession of his estate, Jacob Warwick was married and settled at Dunmore. When it was decided that Lieutenant Warwick was dead, the grandfather of David Bell, of Fishersville, Virginia, was appointed guardian of Jacob Warwick. William and James Bell were the sons of this guardian, and James Bell was the father of William A. Bell and David Bell well remembered citizens of Augusta County.

Dunmore was Mr. Warwick's first home after his marriage. His wife was Miss Vance, daughter of Col. John Vance, of North Carolina. He died on Back Creek, at Mountain Grove, Virginia. Col. Vance's family moved to the vicinity of Vanceburg, Kentucky, except Samuel Vance, Mrs. Warwick, and Mrs. Hamilton. The last named was the mother of Rachel Terrel, of the Warm Springs, and John Hamilton, Esq., of Bath County. Governor Vance, of Ohio, and Senator Zeb Vance, of North Carolina, were of the same family connection. The Vances, originally, from Ooecquon, near Winchester, Virginia.
Mr. Warwick remained at Dunmore a number of years. His children were all born there. He was industriously and successfully occupied in accumulating lands, and managing large herds of cattle and droves of horses. His possessions on Jacksons River were purchase from a certain Alexander Hall, of North Carolina. Mr. Hall owned from the Byrd place to Warwickton. One of his sons, being charged with horse theft, the penalty being death by hanging, refugees to Bath County. The elder Hall came to Dunmore to see Mr. Warwick, and proposed to sell this land to provide means to send his refugee son to Kentucky so as to elude arrest. Mr. Warwick had sent out one hundred head of cattle to be wintered in the cane brakes. This herd was taken by Hall as part payment for the Jackson River lands. The cattle rated at eight pounds a head (about $0). The Clover Lick from the east avoided hollows and ravines, keeping along high points and crests of ridges, so as to be more secure from ambuscades and Indian attacks. The original way out from Clover Lick, going east, after crossing the Greenbrier near the mouth of Clover Creek avoided Laurel Run, kept along the high point leading down to the river, and passed close by the McCutcheon residence. Mrs. Warwick had the first road cut out, up the Laurel Run, in order to bring the lumber for the new house from Woaoddell's in the Pine Woods, now Greenbank and vicinity. She gave the enterprise her personal attention.

Quite a number of interesting incidents were given by tradition illustrating the character of Mrs. Warwick. While renting Clover Lick, her husband and others were making hay. A shower of rain came up very suddenly and dampened their guns and horse pistols. Late in the afternoon the men fired them off, so as to load them with fresh charges. Someone hearing the report of firearms in quick succession brought word to Mrs. Warwick, at Dunmore, that the Indians were fighting the men at the Lick. She at once mounted a large black stallion, put a colored boy on behind, and went at fall speed and swam the swollen river in her effort to see what happened. This colored boy was old "Ben," sho died at Clover Lick, and was remembered by many of the older citizens.

Upon another occasion, when the Shawnees were returning from one of their raids to the east, forty or fifty of their warriors were sent by Clover Lick with the intention, it is believed, to pillage and burn. A scout from Millboro warned Mr. Warwick of their movements. With about twenty others he waited for them in ambush on the crew of the mountain south of Clover Lick. The fire was very effective, and every man killed or wounded his victim. The Indians in their surprise hastily retreated, and were pursued as far as Elk Water in Randolph County. Upon hearing of the result, Mrs. Warwick at once followed her husband and friends, attended by servants carrying provisions for them. She met them at the Big Spring on their return, and the weary hungry party were greatly refreshed by her thoughtful preparations.

She was eminently pious, and was a member of the Windy Cove Presbyterian Church. She never felt herself more honored than when ministers would visit her home and preach. The visiting minister would receive a nice horse, or something else as valuable, as a token of appreciation. She was conscientiously rigid in her domestic discipline. Her brother once made this remark, "Mary, I used to think you were too strict with your family, and you have been blamed for it. I see now you are right. You have not a child but would knee in the dust to obey you. I let my children have more liberties, and they do not care near so much for me."

The Rev. Aretas Loomis came from Beverly, for a time, every four weeks, and preached at the Warwick residence. She was highly emotional, and during the services often appeared very happy. As to her personal appearance she was toll, slender, and blue eyed, hair slightly tinged with auburn, and lithe and agile in her carriage. So she was distinguished for symmetry of person, beauty of feature, and force of character, all of which she retained even to an advanced age. She was very benevolent, and her kind deeds were done upon the principle of not telling the left hand what the right might be doing. Persons in her empty would always be overpaid. Polly Brown, whose lot it was to support her blind mother, received two bushels of corn every two weeks, and no one knew where the supply came from at the time. A person named Charley Collins, who was renowned as an athlete, and whose name was given to one of the meadows of Clover Lick, did a great deal of clearing. It was reported that he was but poorly paid, but before Mrs. Warwick was done with him his family was doubly paid by the substantial fights dispensed with her open hands.

Among her many other generous deeds, it was told how a rather worthless character, disable by frozen feet, was received into her house, clothed and fed until he could walk. His name was Bosier. This man afterwards died from the effects of burning tree falling on hi, against which he had made a fire, while on his way from Big Spring to Mace's in Mingo Flats. George See, a grandson of Mrs. Warwick, heard his cries and came to him. In his efforts to rescue him, he exerted himself so laboriously that he ws never well afterwards.

It should also be remembered, that Mrs. Warwick, in her old age, gathered the first Sabbath School ever taught in Pocahontas County. In the summer her servants would lift her on her horse, and she would then ride about four miles to a school house near where the Josiah Friel cabin stood, now in the possession of Giles Sharp. The exercises would begin at about nine o'clock. There was no prayer, no singing; but she would read the bible, talk a great deal, and five good advice. The scholars would read their bibles with her. The exercises would close at two int he afternoon. After this continuous session of fiver hours Mrs. Warwick would be so exhausted as to require assistance to arise and mount her horse.It was her custom to go to William Sharp's, dine and rest awhile, and then go home later in the day. To use the language of one of her scholars, the late Mrs. Elizabeth McLaughlin, who died near Huntersville in 1895, aged over ninety years, "She would give such good advice. If all would do as she told hem, how well it might have been. She was the best woman to raise girls I ever saw, if they would take her advice how to act and how to do. She has talked to me for hours, and its often thrown up to me that old Mrs. Warwick made me proud because I tried to do as she advised me."

The school was mainly made up of Josiah Brown's family, John Sharp's, William Sharp's and Jeremiah Friel's. The lamented Methodist preacher, Rev. James E. Moore, once belonged to her Sabbath school, and received from her his earliest religious instructions. By common consent it was agreed that he did more for his church than any two mindsets who had ever preached in this region.

Not a great while before her death, during one of Mr. Loomis' ministerial visits, she received the communion. Upon receiving the elements, her emotions became so great that her husband and children, fearing results, carrie her to her own room. For four weeks she was helpless from nervous prostration. All her children from Bath and Pocahontas were sent for. She died at the ripe age of eighty years, in 1823, at Clover Lick, and there she was buried. There were no services of any kind in connection with her burial.

Jacob Warwick was one of the persons who made permanent settlements in what was then Pocahontas and Bath counties, Virginia and West Virginia.

It had been already stated that he commenced his business life at Dunmore; purchased Clover Lick, where he resided for a time; then moved to his immense possessions on Jacksons River, and then returned to Clover Lick. In addition to these estates he acquired some equally as valuable. He endowed his seven children with ample legacies, and besides bequeathed a competency to ten or fifteen grandchildren.

Mr. Warwick was an alert and successful Indian fighter, and had a series of conflicts, narrowly escaping with his life on several occasions; yet he was never sure of killing but one Indian. Parties now living remember seeing a tree on the lands of John Warwick, near Greenback, where Jacob Warwick killed that Indian in single combat. It always grieved him that he had done it. Not very far from this place is the laurel thicket where Colonel Washington was killed in 1861.

Upon a subsequent occasion MR. Warwick went to Randolph County. It was night when he returned. His horse shied at something in the road, which he at once recognized as the fresh husks of roasting ear. The presence of Indians was at once suspected, and upon approaching the house cautiously hit was found that the row of cabins were burned and the premises ransacked. In their glee, the Indians had caught the chickens, picked all their feathers off and let them go. The place had been left in the care of a closed man named Sam and Greenbrier Ben, aged ten and twelve years. Sam made good his escape to the woods, but Ben hid in a hemp patch so near the cabin that when it was burned he could hardly keep still, his buckskin breeches were so hot. From his retreat Ben saw the Indians pick the chickens, leaving their tails and topknots, and laugh at their grotesque appearance. He saw them run the wagon into the fire, after the cabin near the spring had become a smoldering heap of coals. This wagon was the first that ever crossed the Alleghenies. It was brought from Mountain Grove, up Little Back Creek, about three miles above where the Hunersville road first crossed the stream going east; then across Knapps Spur, along by Harper's Mill; then straight across to Thorny Creek, through the Lightner place, past Bethel Church, to the Sunders place on Thorny Creek; thence up the ridge to the top, and then along down to the Knapp place on the Greenbrier River; thence to Clover Lick.

The most memorable event of his life was his being in the expedition to Point Pleasant, under General Andrew Lewis. The march from Lewisburg to Point Pleasant, one hundred and sixty miles, took nineteen days. It was most probable that he was in the company commanded by Captain Mathews. This conflict with the Indians was themes decisive that had yet occurred. It was fought on Monday morning, 10 October 1774. It was a matter of regret that the recorded history of this battle does not accord full justice to the memory of a very deserving person. It was conceded by all, so far as there was any record, that up to the time when there occurred a lull in the battle the advantage was with the Indians. The question arises, why should a warrior as skillful as Cornstalk call a halt in the full tine of success, and suddenly cease firing and pressing upon a receding foe, with victory just in his grasp?

Had it not been for this, no troops could have been safely detached for a flank movement. Flank movements were only a good policy for those who were pressing the enemy, and not for the retreating party. When Cornstalk ceased to press, the victory was decided in favor of the Virginians, and lost to him. Had the battle been lost to our people and the army sacrificed, unspeakable disasters would have befallen all settlements west of the Blue ridge mountains; the Revolution would have been deferred for all time, possibly, and the whole history of america far different from what had been.

How was that lull in the battle to be accounted for, which resulted in victory to the Virginians? Dr. Foote said, in his account, which is one of themes minute and extended of all in reach of the writer, "towards evening, Lewis seeing no signs of retreat or cessation of battle, dispatched Captains Shelby, Mathews, and Stewart, at their request, to attack the enemy in their rear. Going up the Kanawha, under the cover of the banks of Crooked Creek, they got to the rear of the Indians unobserved, and made a rapid attack. Alarmed by this unload for assault, and thinking the reinforcements of Colonel Christian were approaching, before whose arrival they had striven hard to end the battle, the savages became dispirited, gave way, and by sunset had recrossed the Ohio. Colonel Christian entered the camp about midnight, and found all in readiness for a renewed attack.

Colonel Kercheval, who claims to have derived his information from Joseph Mayse and Andrew Reed, of Bath County, stated on their authority "that about two o'clock in the afternoon Colonel Christian arrived on the field with about five hundred men, the battle was still raging. The reinforcements decided the issue almost immediately. The Indians fell back about two miles, but such was their persevering spirit, though fairly beaten, the contes was not closed until the setting of the sun, when they relinquished the field.

There were persons recently living in Bath almost in speaking distance of the residence where Joseph Mayse lived and died, who were certain that Mr. Mayse gave the credit of that cessation in battle and falling back two miles on the part of the Indians, to Jacob Warwick and the persons with him. According to Judge Warwick's statement, Mr. Mayse's statement was emphatically confirmed by Major Charles Cameron, a lieutenant in the battle. Mr. Mayse often repeated the fact that Jacob Warwick, an obscure price in the ranks, was detailed with a number of others, perhaps fifty or sixty in all, to bring in a supply of meat, that rations might be supplied for a forced march to the Indian towns, as Governor Dunmore had so treacherously given orders. These persons crossed the Kanawha about daybreak, and while at work in the hunting grounds and slaughter pens, they heard the firing beyond the limits of the camp, and so far up the Ohio they supposed it to be a salute to Governor Dunmore, who was expected at any time by the soldiers generally. But the firing continuing too long for this, it was surmised the troops were putting their arms in order for the contemplated march over the Ohio. Finally they suspected it was a battle. Mr. Warwick was one of the first to ascertain this to be so, and immediately rallied the butchers and hunters, in order to return to camp and join the battle. This was noticed by the enemy, and Cornstalk was of the option that Colonel Christian was at hand. He ceased in the reach of victory, and took measures to withdraw from the field, unobserved by our exhausted troops. For nearly two hours they had been falling back, and when the flank movement was made to communicate with the hunters, supposed to be Colonel Christian's advance to join them. What fighting occurred afterwards was with the rear guard of Cornstalk's retreating army of demoralized braves.

If all this be true, and considering the sources of information, the write of this book saw no reason to doubt its authenticity in the main, it illustrates how important results were sometimes made to depend, in the providence of God, upon fidelity to duty on the part of the most obscure, and it brings to light the leadings of God's hand in human affairs.

The reputed hero of Point Pleasant appears in bronze, an honored member of the group wherein stand Henry, Jefferson and Marshall, while the humble man whose hand turned the fortunes of that most eventful day sleeps in his obscure grave on the west bank of Jacksons River, six miles from the Warm Springs. Were it the grave of Campbell's "Last Man," it could not be in much less frequented place.

Major Warwick's sons and daughters were all born at Dunmore, Pocahontas County. The eldest daughter, Rachel, remembered when the settlers would fly to the fort near her home, when she was a little girl. The fort was near the spot now occupied by Colonel Pritchard's mill.

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In Search of Dreams

Vol 1, Iss 3 It was Thursday, April 15, 1999, NW Okie wrote this article, "In Search of Dreams."

"We all are in search of our dreams! What is yours? May you be blessed and embrace with peace, love, light, courage and strength the mysteries and challenges of Life while following your hopes and dreams - Discovering what Life has to offer you - What you have to offer others. Be true to yourself - Show respect to others who may be different from yourself." -- LK Wagner, March 1999.

We all are in search of our hopes and dreams! What is yours? I am a dreamer just like anyone else out there! Aren't we all! I dream of places, ideas and things I'd like to do now in the present and in the future.

If we don't drream or have hopes and dreams to reach for, then what would our Life be - A mere day to day existence with very little meaning and very little, precious moments to fill our souls and hearts with hope. It would be "BLAH!"

It is our hopes and dreams that keep us going to see what mysteries life has to offer us - What we have to offer others. We can only be true to ourselves. Show respect to others who may be different than ourselves.

The days that our paths cross now does not mean that we won't pass again in the future as other souls passing along this highway of life challenges. Who is to say, but yourself, that at some time in our lives we haven't passed or met other souls in our past existence. Each is destined to meet their soul mate. Have you found your "Soul Mate" lately?

Relish what you have now - Hang on to your hopes and dreams - Build upon them - Savory them everyday. For that is only human and life is too short not to have embraced each day - each hope and dream you have had on your search and discovery of Peace, Love, Light, Courage and strength while discovering what the challenges of life has to offer you - What you have to offer others.

This is my dream!
Yes! I dream of places my ancestors have been - Where they migrated from. I dream of the present moving into the future. I dream of hope, peace, love, light and courage for all humanity. I deam of what the next century will bring to us all. That we may treat others the way we ourselves would want to be treated. That is my dream!

May you be blessed and embrace each moment of hope, peace, love, light, courage and strength while following your hopes and dreams - Discovering what the mysteries of life have to offer you and what you have to offer others.

Be true to yourself and show respect to others no matter what differences we may have amongst us. Live in unity always!
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Walking With Sadie

Vol 17, Iss 39 Houston, TX - Woof! Woof! The image on the left is a photo my human friend (R. L. Wagner) sent us this October, 2015, showing a view of Mt. Irving and snowy mountain peaks, reflections in the pond.

NW Okie has been on an on going research of Washington Irving, the writer, and his short story, "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow." So that is where this week's OkieLegacy Ezine/Tabloid takes us this week ... on a journey back to the Hudson Valley near Tarrytown and Sleepy Hollow, New York with a look into Irving's life and surroundings from which he wrote.

Sleepy Hollow Records

It was in the New York Tribune, dated 6 January 1901, page 13, we find this news story: "Sleepy Hollow Records." The article reported on the Old Dutch Church at Tarrytown and how it had preserved valuable annals of early families.

We won't transcribe all the article here, but will pick bits and pieces that we found interesting.

In 1672 Frederick Philipse made his first purchase of land north of the Harlem. Twenty years later the manorial rights of the territory between the Harlem River and Pocantico Creek were confirmed to him by the British Crown. In those days manorial rights meant a great deal, including the rights of advowson, or the appointment of ministers of the Gospel, and the jurisdiction of Courts Baron and Leet. A lord of the manor in the seventeenth century was, in fact, a feudal potentate, so far as his domain extended. Established in these territorial privileges, Patroon Philipse, having been left a widower with several children, married Katrina Van Courtlandt, a daughter of the patrician order in which he had attained membership. The biographers seem to be of two minds as tot he religious proclivities of this first Lord of the Manor of Tarrytown. Some represent him as a pious and othordox member of the Reformed Church of Holland, as constituted by the Synod of Dordrecht. Others say he was of a somewhat indifferent tendency of thought, and one of his political enemies, of whom he had scores, accused him of being a Papist. The true founders of the Sleepy Hollow Church was his wife Katrina.

Less than two decades of the church's existence had passed - it was erected soon after 1680 - when, in 169, these records began to be punctually kept by Dirck Storm, the parish clerk.

Here is a list, obligingly modernized and anglicized by Mr. Ferris, of the names found in the interesting collection of brief family annals:

Asker, Ackerman, Anderson, Bunker, Brett, Browser, Conklin, Clearwater, Carson, Couenhoven (probably the original form of Conover, which is one of NW Okie's maternal ancestors on the Paris/Conover lineage), Cox, Chatterton, Davidson, De Witt, De Review, Daniels, De Ronde, Hobbs, Dusenbury, Dyckman, Emmons, Fitch, Foshea, Gilbert, Garretson, Gardiner, Guion, Hammond, Hendrickson, Heleker, Hyatt, Hoff, Hiscock, Hopper, Hutchins, Jacobs, Johns, King, Knapp, Lambert, Le Meyer, Lent, Lounsberry, Lawrence, Man, Marshall, Mattering, Mable, McDaniel, Myer, Miller, Montrose, Oakley, Odell, Palding, Post, Powell, De Pew, Sequa, Ryerson, Romer, Roselle, Sherwood, Schulman, See, Storm, Tompkins, Teal, Teller, Tice, Van Amber, Van Cortlandt, Van Dyck, Van Nostrand, Van Tassel, Van Wart, Van Wormer, Vermilyea, Waldron, Weller, White, Whitbeck, Wylie, Williams, Wilsea and Winter.

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Walking With Sadie

Vol 17, Iss 23 Houston, TX - Woof! Woof! The cool Colorado Rockies are much better for this short-nosed Pug and the hot, humidity of Southwest Texas. I sure do a lot of panting to cool myself off when not in an air-conditioned car or house.

So ... what is happening back in southwest Colorado while I'm gone? a big bear was spotted roaming the south-40 at the the north end of Vallecito Reservoir, 9th of July 2015, as seen in the following video captured by my favorite human, R. L. Wagner.

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Walking With Sadie

Vol 17, Iss 17 Houston, TX - Woof! Woof! We made it down to the Northwest parts of Houston, Texas, a few days ago. No flooding in our area and the rain has stopped, leaving sunshine as the first days of hurricane weather begins.

Our youngest son caught a video of a young bear making another appearance down the hill at the north end of Vallecito, in SW Colorado Rockies. Notice the bear getting startled towards the end and leaving the scene after hearing the banging of pots and pans.

Posted by Linda K Mcgill Wagner on Tuesday, June 2, 2015

We hope we have rounded up some interesting facts from 100 years ago concerning early baseball era, news of laborers looking for work in Oklahoma, and some interesting bits of information about one of NW Okie's favorite poets, Emily Dickinson.

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Walking With Sadie

Vol 16, Iss 38 Bayfield, CO - My favorite human, RL Wagner, took these images of an eagle perched in the dead tree on the Northeast side of Vallecito Lake. Thought maybe you would enjoy viewing some precious mountain scenery, wildlife we encounter daily in our neck of the woods.

Golden Eagles are sometimes known as kings of the Colorado skies in some opinion. They are large, strong raptors that often cause other raptors to disperse. Large eagles will have wingspans that exceeds 7 ft! In Colorado, they are numerous in the western half of the state all year, and in the eastern half, are found mainly during the winter months.

Fledglings are very dark birds and young birds (0 to 4 years old) will have tail feathers that are typically white toward the base of the tail and some white at the base of their primary flight feathers. Mature birds (5+ years) will have a beautiful mix of brown, tawny, golden, and grey colors. Once you have seen a few of these birds, you will not mistake them for young Bald Eagles.

NW Okie wanted me to let you know that this week's OkieLegacy Ezine in a tribute to her Great Grand Uncle Robert Lee Warwick, who fought for the British Coast guard during World War I; her Uncle Major Robert Lee McGill, who fought overseas in World War II; and all veterans of all wars from those two wars to present day. Hey! I think she even had a great grandfather (Henry Clay Paris) that fought for the North during the Civil War (1861-65).

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Walking With Sadie

Vol 16, Iss 16 Bayfield, CO - My human friend, Rob Wagner, sent us this Cardinal cooling in a puddle of water in Alva, in Northwest Oklahoma this last week during their windy, heated Spring temperatures.

While the Alva Cardinal was cooling itself in Northwest Oklahoma, the hummingbirds were lapping up sweet-nectar in Southwest Colorado. As seen in the image on the right.

Our Sunday morning began with clouds and rain, turning to a snow mixture in the late afternoon hours here at the north end of the Vallecito Reservoir, north of Bayfield, Colorado. The hummingbirds have been sucking the sweet-nectar down to the bottom of the feeder today. NW Okie had to do another refill around 5p.m., Sunday.

What is it doing in your neck of the woods? Those in the "Heartland Plains" might keep track of the weather tomorrow (Monday, 12 May 2014) for thunderstorm warnings popping up.

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This Day In History (October 10)

Vol 13, Iss 41 America - On Oct. 10, 1973, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew pleaded no contest to one count of federal income tax evasion and resigned his office. Go to article

On Oct. 10, 1917, Thelonious Monk, the world-renowned American jazz pianist and composer, was born. Following his death on Feb. 17, 1982, his obituary appeared in The Times. Go to obituary

On This Date:

  • 1813 - Composer Giuseppe Verdi was born in Le Roncole, Italy.
  • 1845 - The U.S. Naval Academy opened in Annapolis, Md.
  • 1886 - The tuxedo dinner jacket made its American debut at the autumn ball in Tuxedo Park, N.Y.
  • 1911 - Revolutionaries under Sun Yat-sen overthrew China's Manchu dynasty.
  • 1935 - George Gershwin's opera "Porgy and Bess" opened on Broadway.
  • 1943 - Birthdate of David M. Wagner, born in Orange, New Jersey.
  • 1964 - The 18th Summer Olympic Games opened in Tokyo.
  • 1966 - The Beach Boys released the single "Good Vibrations."
  • 1970 - Fiji became independent after nearly a century of British rule.
  • 1979 - Hockey Hall-of-Famer Wayne Gretzky made his NHL debut with the Edmonton Oilers.
  • 1985 - U.S. fighter jets forced an Egyptian plane carrying the hijackers of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro to land in Italy, where the gunmen were taken into custody.
  • 2002 - The House voted 296-133 to give President George W. Bush broad authority to use military force against Iraq. (The Senate followed suit the next day.)
  • 2003 - Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh announced during his syndicated radio show that he was addicted to painkillers and was checking into a rehab center.
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1926 Alva Businesses

Vol 6, Iss 39 Alva, Oklahoma - 1926 Alva Businesses - NW OkieLegacy Webshots - 1926 Ranger AdsLane's Confectionery
Crouch Studio
Marcum & Branson Tires
Schnitzner Market
Alva Laundry & Dry Cleaners
The Band Box Millinery
The City Bakery
Farmer's Independent Oil Co.
Winter Brothers
McHenry Cafe
Amsden Lumber Co.
Pribble Hotel
W. C. Wilkinson
Unique Confectionery
L. A. Wagner Cash Grocery
Rexall Drug Store
South Side Barber/Beauty Parlor
Bell's Ice Cream Co.
Carrell Music Co.
Alva Roller Mills
Ellis Studio
Kavanaugh & Shea
Weinrich Clothing Co.
Mountain Oil Co
J. C. Hess Ins.
Hurd Motor Co
Fettke & McHugh
Tanner Bros. Clothing Co.
E. W. Tanner Co.
The Tea Store
Crowell Bros.
Elk Barber Shop
Alva Storage Battery Co.
Oklahoma Cigar Store
Hughey & Kennon Ins.
Majestic Theatre
The Ranger Shop
Pullman Cafe
Cochran Drug Co.
Bynum's Hamburger Stand
W. W. Starr
The Alva Record
First National Bank
J. C. Penney Co.
Monfort Drug & Bookstore
High Grade Oil Co.
R. I. DeGeer Groceries
Monfort-Smith Jewelers
Tyree Brothers Clothiers
W. B. Fowitz Funeral Home
Palace Barber Shop
Dr. A. W. Clark Dentist
R. J. McCormick Jeweler
Pood's Shining Parlor
City Tailors
Alva Motor Co.
Bradbury's College Book Store
J. A. Renfrew & Co. Furniture
W. E. Eutsler Grocery
Schaefer-Doolin Mtg. Co.
The Bobbing Shoppe
New Racket Store
Maxwell Printing Co.
Hub Tailor Co.
Joe Edwards Motor Co.
McGill Bros. Furniture
McGill Swimming Pool
Illinois Cigar Store
Alva Motorcycle & Bicycle Shop
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OkieLegacy Ezine & Facebook - Socially Networked

NW Okie (Linda)

Vol 12, Iss 17 Are you a Facebook user? Are you one of those socially networking with friends and family?

OkieLegacy is truly socially networked through the efforts and knowledge of our in-house nwOKtechie, Michael Wagner. You will noticed something NEW in newsletter this week and when you click the "View/Write" link under each feature. Michael has added a Facebook Social plugin where you can NOW either Sign-in with your Facebook account or Join Facebook social networking -- Leave a comment and post to NW Okie's Facebook profile.

There is also a "Like" button you can click on that tracks those who like the website/feature and shows which of your Facebook friends like it. You can also read recent posts from the page -- "Like" the page with one click, without needing to visit the page.

I am still learning Facebook myself and hope I have come across clear in my explanation here. There are still things for this Old NW Okie to learn. Maybe someone out there who is more experienced with Facebook social networking can inform us all much better than I have try to do here.
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Freedom, OK's 2008 Old Cowhand - Dean Wilson

Vol 10, Iss 34 We didn't make it back to Northwest Oklahoma last weekend for Freedom's Rodeo, Cowhand Reunion and Shootout. BUT... We read in this week's NW Oklahoma weekly newspaper, The Freedom Call, that Dean Wilson was the honored Old Cowhand this year (2008) at Freedom's Old Cowhand Reunion & Rodeo.

What we know of Dean Wilson from that article is that he married Betty Hackney, April 29, 1951. Both Dean and Betty worked for the Kamas Brothers Ranch; thereafter the young couple moved to Protection, Kansas to work for Betty's uncle, Lloyd Hackney. At this same time, family was blessed with the birth of daughter RoAnn and son Randy.

In 1954 the Wilson family headed to the Parker and Beely Ranch just north of the Kansas line and daughter Sharil was born.

From 1958 to 1961, the family worked the Gregg Ranch just southeast of Wimore, Kansas. There, Dean, enjoyed the kind of work he loved, but had a few more acres to ride. It wasn't all work. The family would stay busy with the birth of twins, Darol and Carol.

Finally in 1961, Dean rented 880 acres northeast of Mooreland, Oklahoma. He bought a cow herd, horses and a few hogs. While living in Mooreland, the late Darrel Eden approached Dean and ask him to manage the Freedom Propane Company. So in 1964 when the owner of the Mooreland acreage put it up for sale, the Wilson family gladly jumped at the chance to move back 'home' to Freedom.

All three of Dean and Betty�s daughters had been crowned Freedom Rodeo Queens, as well as serving as attendants. Even granddaughter Sabrina was crowned Queen in 2002.

Congratulations to Dean Wilson and his family from the OkieLegacy and McGill Sisters L&C Corporation (Dorthy & Linda).

If anyone out there has an extra copy of the <2008 Freedom Rodeo Program for the 71st Rodeo & Cowhand Reunion, I would sure love to have a copy. You can mail it to me: Linda Wagner, PO Box 619, Bayfield, CO 81122. Thanks!
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OkieLegacy's Blogs & Ezine Posting

Vol 9, Iss 36 I have gathered so much Oklahoma Legacies in the past 8 (going on 9 years) that sometimes I forget what all I have on my webpages.

I have been trying out some CMS/blog-type software on some of my website hosting servers to see if this is how, what I want to use to manage some of that information.

One of those Blog sites is Okielegacy Blog on my site.

We are also trying out a NEW CMS/Blog at The Prairie Home News to see how we can organize, manage our OkieLegacy content, legacies.

Recently I had a request from someone that wanted to add some surnames to the Short Springs Cemetery - OK concerning his grandparents (jacob and lydia WEBER) and their parents who are buried in the Short Springs Cemetery. The Short Springs Cemetery listing is on this site - (OkieLegacy Blog - Short Springs Cemetery - OK

I understand that some people are uncomfortable posting comments to blogs. If that is the case and you would like to submit information to our blogs, you can email this NW Okie ( and I can post the information and any photos you send me.

For those of you who are comfortable posting and commenting on blogs, I will try to tell you how to add comments or posts to the above blogs... or any other blog that "OkieLegacy" has out there. You may need to "register" to post on our blogs. You do not need to register to comment on The OkieLegacy Ezine! We do moderate our blogs & ezines to keep the spammers, unwanted comments, links and posts out of our blogs.

To Add a "comment" under any "posts" all you have to do is click the "comments" link under each posts. You may need to register with the blog to publish a comment or post, but it is free. Like I said earlier, I do this to moderate the blog, to keep out the spammers, unwanted porn links that a lot of blogs get nowadays.

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Share Bros. of Oklahoma Territory

Vol 9, Iss 24 I was doing some looking back at bits, pieces that I have gathered on the Share Brothers of Oklahoma Territory. Amongst the information, it looks like the Share brothers were native of Michigan and had a mercantile business in Harper, Kansas in what is known as the 'Buckeye building' before moving their mercantile business to Alva, Oklahoma Territory.

Charles C. Share was a native of Michigan, but engaged in the mercantile business at Harper, Kansas, for several years. He moved his stock of goods to Alva in 1901 and consolidated it with that of Sylvester B. Share & Bros' department store. Charles C. Share had been a cashier of that big institution in 1904. He was also in the class of Woods County progressive citizens.

J. D. Share was also a native of Michigan. He located in Wellington, Kansas, 1872, and engaged in the drygoods business until he came to Alva in September, 1895, where he was already had an interest with his brother, Sylvester B. They built the first brick business house in the city. Afterwards adding two more brick rooms, making the buildings combined 75 by 150 feet. They also built the Alva National Bank block of four business rooms, with offices upstairs, and later the post office building. Mr. Share was vice-president of the 'first commercial club,' and was always active in furthering any enterprise for the general benefit of the city. He served one year (1900) as a member of the 'Territorial Board of Education' for 'Normal Schools', and in 1901 was elected a member of the city council and was active in re-organizing Alva as a city of the first class, making its laws, among other things.

Sylvester B. Share was an Alva, Oklahoma pioneer native of Michigan. Sylvester B. Share came to Harper, Kansas, about 1884 and engaged in the mercantile business. Sylvester B. Share came to Alva, Oklahoma Territory in the spring of 1894 and opened a large general merchandise store. Sylvester B. Share was very liberal, enthusiastic in furthering the interests of the city. Like his brother, Sylvester served two terms on the city council, years of 1894-5. In 1909 he was of the firm of S. B. Share and Bros. large department store in Alva, Oklahoma Territory.

It seems as though the Share brothers and their descendants touched many lives in this northwest Oklahoma Territory and across the northern border into Kansas. Today many northwest Oklahomans will remember Charles Morton "Corky" Share as the son of Charles C. Share. "Charles Morton Share Trust has been used to build many businesses, new hospital, library, etc...

As a little girl living on the southwest corner of 7th & Church Street, in a two-story white, frame house, in Alva, Oklahoma, my family (including myself, a.k.a, & Linda Kay McGill) were neighbors of Charles "Corky" Morton Share.

To this impressionable, shy little girl in the 1950's, Charles 'Corky' Morton Share was a single, quiet, heavy set man, whom lived in the white frame house just south of us. Corky Share (Charles Morton Share) died June 13, 1959 and is buried in block A-086-07 of the Alva cemetery with his parents.

I do not remember much about the man and my neighbor as I was a rather shy, introverted, impressionable young thing in my early youth back then and things seemed to easily scare me. All that I remember about "Corky" Share was that he seemed to be a quiet, heavy set man that kept to himself and lived with his widowed mother. I don�t know if that is true or not. BUT... I kept to myself and really did not get to know him like I probably should have as a neighbor.

Corky seemed tall to this short shy neighborhood girl in her early youth. I can only speak for myself, Corky seemed a bit frightening. I don't know if it was the neighborhood kids that started the rumor or not, but we were told that if we went in his back yard all hell would break loose. Now that I have grown older and wiser, I see that the rumor may have been something that the kids in the block started because Corky kept to himself. It is always easier looking back and seeing what you would like to change, isn't it?

I remember the many fruit trees he had in his backyard. There was one year that Charles Morton Share let my baby sister, Amber, pick some fruit from his trees to make him a pie. I guess my baby sister was a bit more outgoing than I was. BUT... I think my mother made the pie for her.

Anyway, when Charles Morton Share died in 1959, he bequeathed a stuffed pelican to my baby sister, Amber. That pelican has long since been donated to the museum at Northwestern Oklahoma State University.

As we glance, read through the "Pioneer Footprints Across Woods County" history book, you get a glimpse of the many lives that were entangled with the Share Bros. businesses. BUT... there is no other family history of the Share brothers personal family life.

Who was Alva's benefactors, Charles "Corky" Morton Share? Charles C. Share; J. D. Share; and Sylvester B. Share?

If anyone out there has a more detail history of the liberal, enthusiastic benefactors (Share Bros.) that progressively help build northwest Oklahoma Territory and parts of Kansas to the North, we would love to learn more about these Michigan natives that stopped in Wellington and Harper, Kansas before moving on into northwest Oklahoma Territory. CONTACT: Linda McGill Wagner, PO Box 619, Bayfield, CO 81122 - Email:
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Old Opera House Mystery Continues...

Vol 8, Iss 29 The continuing story of the Old Opera House Mystery - Part II has hit the newstands and mailboxes with the July/August edition of the "Prairie Connection." Have you received your copy yet? Look for it in your mailbox or on the newstands near you. If you don't subscribe, then you need to subscribe today! Check out Prairie Connection newly designed website for the subscription information.

If you have forgotten what happened as to the "Old Opera House Mystery", May, 2006 edition of The Prairie Connection, check out the May '06 link on the Prairie Connection website. OR... check out the OkieLegacy - Old Opera Mystery (1910). The September '06 edition of The Prairie Connection may be continuing the Old Opera House Mystery and getting into parts of the 1911 Trial in Woodward County. That is of course, IF the Prairie Connection readers want to hear more!

There is a request that we would like to ask of everyone out there. We are looking for any information on Claud McCrory, ex-county attorney of Woods County (1910). Where did McCrory vanish after resigning as Woods County's county attorney? Why couldn't the Law Enforcement League find McCrory? Who was helping him hide from subpeonas?

If you have any information about Claud McCrory, please send your information to LK McGill Wagner - Thanks in advance!
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Kansas, Indians & 1867 Peace Treaty....

Vol 8, Iss 24 Have you ever wondered what the "Rest of the Story" was concerning the Medicine Lodge Creek Peace Treaty of 1867?

We recently learned about the horrors of the people of Medicine Lodge (Kansas) and how the Indians, especially the Comanche and Cherokee, were treated around the time of the signing of the "Peace Treaty." Most history books never mention this aspect or the indians side of the story. Were the Indians really caged like animals with inadequate food, shelter, and beaten? We also understand, realize that the majority of the history being published is the "white man's" version. We are in search of scholarly indian research that would give us BOTH sides of the story.

Did the Medicine Lodge "leaders" FORCE the signing of the Peace Treaty by the imprisonment of the native americans?

We don't know about you, but we would love to discover, share the "Rest of the Story." We need your help searching for any individual, research concerning the "Medicine Lodge Peace Treaty (1867)" that took place around Medicine Lodge, Kansas around the mid-1860s.

Are there any Native American history scholars or other scholars out there that might be able to provide us resources, research and point us in the right direction so the rest of the story can be told? We believe this is a story that needs to be preserved! We believe quite a few of those descendants live in Oklahoma now? Would you and knowledgeable Indian scholars, historians help us find the "Rest of the Story?" You may leave comments at the end of this feature and/or CONTACT: LK McGill Wagner - EMAIL: -- OR -- Rosalea Hostetler - EMAIL: Thanks for your help!
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Obituary - Edward Theodore Hodgden, 03/13/1926 to 05/28/2006...

Vol 8, Iss 22 Services were held Friday, June 02, 2006 at 10:30 AM, Wharton Funeral Chapel, Alva, Oklahoma. Edward Hodgden, age 80, longtime resident of Alva, Oklahoma, died Sunday, May 28, Ascension Sunday. Funeral services for Mr. Hodgden were held at Wharton Funeral Chapel on Friday, June 2, at 10:30 a.m., with rites following at the Sacred Heart Catholic Cemetery. A vigil service was held Thursday, June 1, at 7 p.m. at Sacred Heart Catholic Church. Fr. Shane Tharp presiding at the services.

Edward Theodore Hodgden was born on March 13, 1926, in Enid, Oklahoma, to Theodore William (Ted) and Rose Dora (Hudnall) Hodgden. Ed's grandparents were Walter Perry and Ella (Nagle) Hodgden. Walter Perry Hodgden was twenty-one years old when he joined other Kansas men making the Run into the Cherokee Strip. Walter left his home in Ellsworth, Kansas riding his horse to Arkansas City and was ready to race into the Strip when the gun was fired, September 16, 1893. The line broke early, and though the soldiers were shouting and calling people back, they all just raced on, so the gun was fired so all could go.

Ed's grandpa, Walter Hodgden, rode that day with Billy Morton, a blacksmith from Ellsworth. Their horses "lasted too long" and when they stopped on Black Bear Creek, they found they were in Indian country. Not getting a claim they rode on into Enid and Walter took up school land southwest of Enid. Billy was to spend the rest of his life on the Hodgden ranch, dying in 1936 at 85 years.

Walter Hodgden operated land at his home in Garfield County and Walter began ranching in Woods County in 1897, starting in Section 36-Twp23-Rge13 and later acquiring Section1 and 2-Twp22-Rge13 and other acreages. This land is in the southeast corner of Woods County and on the south by the Cimarron River.

In may 1897 Walter returned to Ellsworth to marry Miss Ella Nagle, then returned to his home where they both continued to live until their deaths. That summer he harvested his first wheat crop, having been "hailed out" the three previous years. On a trip to Iowa he purchased seven Registered Hereford cows and a Registered Hereford bull. This was on of the first Registered herds in Oklahoma and surrounding states. Especially did northwest Oklahoma benefit from this improved blood and herds in Garfield and Woods Counties continue to show its influence.

Walter Perry Hodgden was born in 1872, died in 1921, but Mrs. Hodgden and her sons Theodore and Walter continued to operate the ranch. Mrs. Ella (Nagle) Hodgden died in 1960 and Theodore in 1973. Walter Perry and Ella (Nagle) Hodgden had three children: Theodore, Walter and Mary.

Ed Hodgden, son of Theodore William "Ted" and Ella (Nagle) Hodgden, was raised and educated near Drummond, Oklahoma, and at Ft. Hays, Kansas. Ed attended St. Joseph Catholic Elementary School in Enid, Oklahoma. He served in the Navy during WWII in the Philippines.

Ed married Joan Wagner in 1949 in Blairstown, New Jersey, and they were married 37 years, until her death in 1986. Their surviving children are Susan Belinda and her husband Jim Nance; Maura Bethann and her husband Larry Leslie; Melissa Joan and her husband Eric Nuttall; and Amy Melanie Hodgden. Also surviving are 7 grandchildren and 2 great-grandgirls; a sister and brother-in-law, Mary Agnes and Thomas G. Romine; one brother, Francis Hodgden, two brother-in-laws and their wifes, Lou and Kay Wagner and David and Linda Wagner and many nieces, nephews, cousins and friends.

Ed began his career in the oilfields of northwest Oklahoma as a roughneck and worked on the first oil well to be drilled in Woods County. He continued several businesses in the oil and gas industry until the age of 79. Throughout his 53-year career in the oil and gas industry he and his family served this northwest community well and he will be greatly missed.

He leaves behind his present wife, Donna. He was preceded in death by his wife Joan, his parents, and his infant daughter, Nora. Contributions may be made in Ed?s memory to the Alva Senior Citizen Center. Click here to leave your condolences at Wharton Funeral Guestbook.
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1939 - Waynoka Newspaper...

Vol 6, Iss 9 We were reading a 1939 Northwest Oklahoma newspaper (The Waynoka News ) dated Thursday, June 15, 1939. Did you know that the biggest privately owned man-made lake in the state was in the "Dust Bowl" of Oklahoma's Panhandle, on the 3,200 acre farm of O. W. Tucker, in Cimarron County?" The 1939 article mentioned that the original dam (45 feet high) would hold 900 acre feet of water and would irrigate 300 acres of alfalfa (started in 1937) through ditches running from both sides of the dam. From reading the 1939 news we also learn that C. T. Sturdevant was extension service engineer of Oklahoma A & M College back in 1939 and was assisted by someone called "Uncle Bill" Baker (Cimarron County agent) and Tucker's two sons when they made the original survey for the lake, dam.

Also... Back in June, 1939, you could read about the Woods County 4-H delegates winning honors at State Round-up. Some of those Woods County delegates to the 1939 4-H Club Round-up were: Jean Light, Capron; Joyce Lightburn, Capron; Betty Rose, Capron; David Mitts, Capron; Virgil Schwerdtfeger, Capron; Joe D. Heaton, Capron; Junior Grant, Capron; Donna Mae Wagner, Capron; Willa Jean Armour, Capron; Emma Crusinberry (sic), Waynoka; Ruth Hyde, Alva; Ella Louise Hyde, Alva; Eugene Yohn, Alva; Vernon Whitney, Alva; John Wiebener, Alva; Bob Vore, Dacoma; Howard Whitney, Alva; Fred Veley, Aline; Loretta Gail English, Aline; Katherine McNally, Waynoka; Ethel Crusinberry (sic), Waynoka. That year Woods County took their share of top honors at State Club Round-up. Vernon Whitney and Ruth Hyde, Alva, won blue and red ribbons respectively in the timely topic contest. Joe D. Heaton and Junior Grant, Capron, took a blue ribbon with their poultry demonstration. Girls' team of Betty Rose, Capron, and Donna Mae Wagner, Alva, won a blue ribbon with their home improvement demonstration. Junior Grant, Capron, and Emma Crusinberry, Waynoka, placed with blue and red ribbons respectively in the health contest. Loretta Gail English, Aline, and Bob Vore, Dacoma, each placed in the red ribbon class in appropriate dress. In the recreational contests Woods county members won a blue ribbon in play, red ribbon in songs and white ribbon in games.

December 28, 1939, Thursday... you might read about the final payment of wheat checks for the 1939 AAA program being received. George Felkel was county agent back then and stated that the checks totaled $8,951 and brought the final total amount to $65,777 received by the farmers. Claren C. Cobb, of Avard was elected chairman of the Woods county soil conservation committee at the county meeting in Alva, Friday, December 22, 1939. The article said that the committee would control the 1940 AAA program in the county. Cobb succeeded former chairman, Albie Melkus. What was this AAA program, anyway? Is this AAA program what we call the farm program today: ASCS and now FSA program?

In December, 1939... there was mention of three obituaries listed for these Waynoka Pioneers: William Monfort (brother of John Monfort of Alva), Ernest Chritton, and James Ottis Braught.

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OkieLegacy Centennial Moment

Vol 9, Iss 37 The Run For Homes... Seventy-Five thousand In The Scramble. The Strip Is Opened At Last. The Horses Beat the Railroad Trains, Because of the Terrible Crash -- The Crack of 100 Carbines -- The Signal -- The Stampede For Land -- No Casualties of a Serious Nature Reported -- Scenes and Incidents.

These headlines appeared six days after the famous Cherokee Strip Land Run of September 16, 1893 in Vol. 1, No. 1 of this northwestern Oklahoma Territory newspaper, The Alva Pioneer, dated Friday, September 22, 1893, in Alva, M County, O. T.

Do you have any Ancestral Land Run stories that you would like to share with us? Send them to NW Okie -

Where were your ancestors 114 years ago? Were they a part of the Cherokee Land Run of 1893? Did they make the Run by train, covered wagon, horse, bicycle or on foot? Were they a Boomer or Sooner?

Here is the "Rest of that news story 114 years ago: Arkansas City, Kansas, Sept. 18, 1893 -- "At high noon today 100 United States carbines cracked in the dry air and with exulting yells 30,000 men and women, all American citizens, rushed into the Cherokee strip -- almost the last section of the public domain that will be thrown open to general settlement.

"The following figures show the number of people who made the run:
* From Arkansas City -- By train, 8,000; by horse, 22,000.
* From Orlando -- 25,000.
* From Caldwell-By train, 3,000; by horse, 7,000.
* From Stillwater -- 10,000.

"The view of the rush at 12 o'clock from the observatory on the Chilocco school was full of exciting interest. Just before the hour, with a field glass the long line of horses and men densely packed for 200 feet back could be seen. At high noon the sharp crack of a revolver was distinctly heard, and immediately following came the reports of the carbines. A hoarse yell went up, softened by the distance, and the line got in motion.

"Horses were seen to shoot out from the pack and dash across the prairie. Then a dense cloud of dust obscured the line for a moment, but a brisk wind from the west cleared it away, and the men and wagons could be seen scattering as the slowest were left behind. Now and then a wagon would go over with a wheel knocked off.

"A horse was seen to rear in the air as he was struck by a wagon tongue and fall back. His rider was up in an instant and bent over his horse. Then he arose, and from his gestures it was plainly seen that he had been left at the post.

"The last of the rushing hosts were not long in disappearing over the hill into the swale at the south line of the Chilocco reserve, the rear being brought up by a throng of men and women on foot and a few teams on a walk.

"The whole thing was spectacular, but it was soon over, too soon.

"The trains did not pull out of the Santa Fe station until sometime after 12 o'clock when the jam then was awful. At least 15,000 people including, most of the population of Arkansas City, were there to board the trains. Special trains from Wichita, Winfield and other near points came in loaded with sightseers.

"The way the trains were run was a bitter disappointment to town lot seekers, as any wagon which left in the rear of the line could have beaten them to Ponca.

Great recklessness was displayed in jumping on and off the trains by the crowd eager not to get left, and there were many narrow escapes. No casualties happened, however, and after considerable delay the first section moved out slowly. Most of the people who went in on the trains carried blankets and provisions and some of them small tents. All will have to sleep on the ground tonight, as they will not be able to get back, all of the regular trains having been laid off.

"The crush to get on the trains was awful. After the cars were full people climbed to the roofs and soon covered them. They clung to the steps, invaded the engine and even crawled upon the trucks. Inside the cars the jam was frightful, people were crushed in and the pressure at the doors could not be stopped. The efforts of eh deputy marshals did not avail much after the first few had shown their certificates. The trains left hundreds of disappointed people behind who were unable to get a foothold. At the edge of the strip a horde of people were waiting to board the rains but there was no room for them. The Santa Fe sold 8,000 tickets for the trains, most of them for Kildare.

"Camped along side the track at the state line were about 200 men. They had walked out to take the trains there this morning. When they could not even secure foothold they threatened to throw ties under the cars.

"The town is literally deserted, banks are closed and most of the stores are in possession of the proprietors, all the clerks having gone to the border to make the run.

The Alva Pioneer newspaper on September 22, 1893 reported that Sooners were reported shot. Also... there was mention from Guthrie, Oklahoma, on September 18, 1893 that four (4) Sooners were shot and fatally wounded September 17, 1893 by soldiers. AND... there were guards on duty at Guthrie with about 100 men armed with Winchesters who were guarding the city from bandits said to be preparing for a raid."
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About The NW Okie

Vol 10, Iss 12
This is for those of you who have just recently joined us here or want to know more about the NW Okie, editor & publisher of The OkieLegacy. Who is that lady collecting Okie Legacies? AND... Why? You can read a short "bio" about me over at my ParisTimes Genealogy site.

It was 60 years ago, 11:35a.m., Alva General Hospital, a third (3rd) daughter was born to Vada Eileen (Paris) McGill (31 years) and Gene M. McGill (33 years). Linda Kay was a Winter baby weighing in at 6lbs-10oz. Her parents arrived just in the neck of time on that February, 1948 morning, at the Alva General hospital with 1-1/2 hrs to spare before Li'l Linda's arrival. My sister Dorthy gave me my name.

My Father... Gene McGill, was a flying farmer, bearded custom harvestor in the 1940's and a Democratic State Chairman in the 1960's.

Gene McGill was born December, 1914 and died June, 1986 on Father's Day. He was the oldest son of William Jacob McGill and Constance Estella (Warwick) McGill. Gene had a younger brother, Robert "Bob" McGill, that was born August, 1916 and died February 1954. My father got his pharmacist degree from OU in 1937.

My Mother... This photo taken of my mother, Vada Eileen Paris, was her high school graduation photo taken when she was 18 years of age.

Vada Paris was born November 11, 1916 and died July, 1992. She was the fourth child and oldest daughter of Ernest Claude Paris and Mary Barbara Hurt from around Chester (Tailholt), Oklahoma, Major County. Vada had six brothers and two sisters. I think only Uncle Sammy is alive, living in Sand Point, Idaho today. Vada was a homemaker who went back to school in the early fifties to get her teaching degree in Home Economics from Northwestern State Teachers College.

My Sisters & Me... This is a 1955 photo of two of my sisters and Me, in the backyard of 703 7th Street, Alva, OK. The photo shows Linda, Dorthy, and Amber perched on a picnic table in the backyard, of 703 7th Street, Alva, Oklahoma. The oldest sister (Connie Jean) is NOT pictured -- and not quite sure why?

Sweet Li'l Linda Kay was raised one of two middle daughters of the four McGill Sisters in the Gene & Vada Paris McGill family.

My life began sixty years ago, as one of the Baby Boomers and raised as a Democrat, in a Small, Rural Community located in Woods County in the NW Corner of Oklahoma.

My Schooling began at Horace Mann Elementary in Kindergarten and progressed thru Washington Elementary, Alva Jr. High, Alva High. I hated the little snobby, elite, cliques that formed during the Jr. High and High School years. I chose not to belong to any of them. I finished my college education at Northwestern State College in 1971 with a BA Degree in Art & Sociology.

A 1969 Mid-Summer, July Wedding united David M. Wagner & Linda Kay McGill after a year courtship during our time at Northwestern State College (NSC). In the Early-Fall of 1970 our oldest Son, Michael, started our family while we were living, working, and finishing College at NSC in Alva, Oklahoma. (It was back in the mid 1960's during the days of the Viet Nam War, Peace, Love, and Hippies.. [Although, I never was a Hippie.]

In the Early-Summer (June) of 1973 David, Linda and son (Michael) were blessed with their second son, Robert. David was working for Kerr-MaGee Research & Engineering in OKC -- we were living in Edmond, OK, USA. In (or about 1975) David got a job with Exxon Engineering, Baytown, TX and the four of us became Texas-Okies for five or six years before we moved back to Alva, OK about 1980.

I love to listen to music of the "'40's" and "Rock-n-Roll Oldies" of the 50's, 60's, 70's! I also like a little of the "Classical, Jazz, Blues, Soul and Country!" One of my favorite Radio stations back in my earlier childhood was KOMA. You could find this transistor sister walking around Alva with her transistor radio tuned to KOMA radio station.
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2016, Letter to US Senators

Vol 18, Iss 30 Dear Senators:
As your constituent and someone who has paid into Social Security my entire working life, I am concerned about the agenda now underway in Washington to target Social Security with deep cuts.

Congress has created a Social Security crisis where there isn't one — currently the Social Security Trust Fund has a surplus of $2.8 trillion! Yet lawmakers have put Social Security on a collision course that will devastate this program and reduce the benefits that millions of Americans depend on to survive. One of those Americans is myself.

That’s why I’m writing to you today to remind you:

--Social Security is our government’s most successful and popular program, and any cut to benefits would endanger the well-being of millions of current and future recipients and their families.

--Social Security is an insurance policy that millions of American citizens deserve to receive if they cannot work because of a disability.

--Social Security is an earned benefit that American workers pay for throughout their productive lives. It is not an “entitlement” and it is not a handout.

At a time when more Americans than ever before are counting on their earned benefits for a secure retirement and a minimal safety net, Congress should be working to support, protect and strengthen Social Security. That’s why I urge you to work closely with the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare as you consider legislation that could impact earned benefits.

linda mcgill wagner
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Ranger Album 1917, NSN Societies & Local Pan Hellenic

Vol 18, Iss 22 This is a page showing the NSN Societies and Local Pan Hellenic organizations that were a part of Northwestern State Normal School, in Alva, Oklahoma.

Sigma Sigma Sigma (Founded at Farmville, Va., 1898) - Catharine Serviss (Pres.), Edna Conway, Neva Wilkinson.

X Chapter - Active member: Lenna Burr, Cleo Lewellen, Rose Walker, Dorothy Calloway, Edna Conway, Thelma Lambert, Henrietta Pyle, Ruth M. Miller, Neva Jane Hanford, Catharine Serviss, Ruby Skeen, Carre Phillips, Bell McCormick, Mae Hobbie, Hazel Ketchem, Katherine Monroe, Reed Loving Watt. 1916 Alumnae - Hazel Martin, Neva Wilkinson, Rachael McClure Vickers, Alta Dearing.

Active Chapters
Alpha - SNS, Farmville, Va.
Sigma Phi - Union U., Jackson, Tenn.
Kappa - Miami U., Oxford, Ohio
Zeta - SNS, Buffalo, NY
Phi - Ohio U., Athens, Ohio
Iota - SNS, Greeley, Colo.
Lambda - SNS, Indiana, Pa.
Mu - SNS, Kirksville, Mo.
Nu - SNS, Warrensburg, Mo.
X - SNS, Alva, Okla
Omicron - SNS, Ypsilanti, Mich.
Pi - SNS, Emporia, Kans.

Alpha Sigma Alpha -(founded 1901) - Ada Titus, Grace Mauntel, Ada Smith

Chapter Roll
Alpha - State Normal School, Farmville, Va.
Alpha Alpha - Miami University, Oxford Ohio
Alpha Gamma - State Normal, Indiana, Pa.
Beta Beta - Teacher's College, Greeley Colo.
Gamma Gamma - State Normal, Alva, Okla.
Colors - pearl white, Crimson, Pale green, gold
Flowers - Astor, narcissus
Jewels - Pearl, Ruby
Open Motto - "Aspire, Seek, Attain"
Patron - Hermes
Insignia - Crown, Star, Palm Tree, Phoenix

Gamma Gamma Chapter Roll
Jennie Smith, Bess Davis, Mildred Foster, Nellie Cole, Blanche Rackley, Edith Harris
Alumnae - Mayme Spurrier, Jennie Vinson Fisk, Irene Rebber Quinlan, Ethel Feese, Louise Miller, Edith Heaton, Blanche Woolman, Ruth Long, Edna Brockway, Mary Bowling Wagner, Fern Clifton, Ada Smith, Gertrude Wetz, Ruth Pettit, Lorinda Mason
Ex-Schola - Helen Fitzgerald, Goldie Foster, Lucy Reed, Irene Rolf, Esther Delzell, Bernice Fitzgerald, Elsie Solf, May Grimm, Agnes Warriner, Stella Hunt
Faculty Advisor - Miss Minnie Shockley

Patronesses - Mrs. Frank Munson, Mrs. C. C. Share, Mrs. E. A. Haines

Pi Kappa Sigma (Founded Michigan State Norma, 1894) Alice Fennessey, Inez Beattie, Anne Wilke

Beta Chapter established 1900
Colors - Turquoise blue and Gold
Flowers - Forget-me-not and Jonquil
In Facultate - Saran Crumley, Nettie hardy, Isabell Vessey, Maude Reichman
In Urbe - Mrs. Guy Lisk, Mrs. W. E. Sloat, Phoebe McKeever, Mrs. Oscar Hampton, Mrs. M. C. Mason, Mildren Dauner, Edith Norris, Nellie Watson, Cora Wiggins, Mrs. Burdie Loventhal, Justine Harms, Carrie Schaefer, Mrs. Hurston Tuck, Mrs. C. S. Warren, Nellie Wiggins, Lois Wiggins, Marguerite Fennessey, Zelma Shilds, Ann Wilke

Members - 1917: Alice Fennessey, Edna Talbot, Della Brunstetter, Pearl Boling, Elizabeth Springer, Minnie Bridges, Velma Rae Dunn. 1918... Dora Curl, Inez Beattie, Ruth Greenlee.
Pledges - Margaretta Fulton

Delta Sigma Epsilon (Founded Miami University, 1914) - Nora Autsler, Fern Welsh, Maud Morris

Delta Chapter - established 1916
Colors - Cream and Pea Green
Flower - Tea Rose
Patroness - Mrs. Walter Ferguson
In Facultate - Pearl Ellen Crawford, Maude Morris, Pearl Esther Crawford
Members - Nora Eutsler, Irene Woodmansee, Marie McElhiney, Maude Every, Ruth Ranck, Eunice McCluney, Ruth Moyer, Mercedes Moyer, Veronica Hollen, Fern Welsh, Fern Williams, Beulah Hoffsommer, Jessie Hoefer, Elsie Lee Stein, Mable Willis, Edna Weeks
Pledges - Larkie Temple, Mable Cameron, Neola Hurt

Saturday Night Club Organized 1906.

Colors: Sea shell pink and ashes of roses.
In Faculate - Grace Stegal & Sarah Crumley.

Members - Cora Davis, Vie Abbott, Inez Beattie, Eugena Huddleston, Pearl Boling, Margaretta Fulton, Mrs. Agnes Sloat, Luella Harzman, Dora Curl, Ruth Greenlee, Bernice Henderson, Rose Walker, Elizabeth Herold, Bertie Harney, Gladys Crawford, Etta Creech, Helen Smith.

Officers - Ine Beattie, President; Bertie Harney, Vice-President; Helen Smith, Secretary; Luella Harzman, Treasurer; and Ruth Greenlee, Reporter.

The Philomathean Club

The Philomathean Club is an energetic literary club of Northwestern. It has gained in membership and prestige ever since its organization. It has one of the most competent and most amiable members of the faculty, Mrs. Fallon, for its club Mother, and President Graves for Parliamentarian. It also recognizes the social side of things, and has its share of "stunts."
Members - Audrey Bainum, Lera Bainum, Lorena Bainum, Gladys Bingham, Marie Dale, Verda Dale, Bess Davis, Mrs. Fallon, Bernice Fogle, Marie Hartshorn, Nina Hopper, Viola Martin, Maud McMurtrey, Mildred McMurtrey, Letha Pryor, Sibyl Wilson.
Present Officers Bess Davis, Pres.; Audrey Bainum, Vice-Pres.; Gladys Bingham, Sec.; Viola Martin, Treas.; Nina Hopper, Chaplain; Verda Dale, Sergeant;Mrs. Fallon, Critic; President J. W. Graves, parliamentarian.

Parliamentary Debating Club Officers: Bert Raney, pres.; Harry Brown, Vice-pres.; E. A. Sandefur, Sec.; Joe Bagenstos, corresponding sec.; Wm. Eagan, Treas.; George McClure, Reporter; Critic, Ralph Beegle, Critic; Fant Word, parliamentarian;Chester Duncan, marshal; Sabin C. Perceful, coach of debate; V. C. Sheldon, coach of oratory. Club Colors - pink and green.

The Parliamentary Debate Club is the oldest organization of the kind in Northwestern and possibly in the state, and it has always held the debate honors of the club and school far above reproach, when given an opportunity to do so. This club now has hanging at its belt scalps from Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, and Texas. The Lone Star State was the last to fall a prey to the attack of the P.D.C. but they followed in the paths of all her other victims. This club has the remarkable record of having never lost a debate on its home floor in seventeen years. Among the schools with which the P. D. C. has held debates in the past are the Warrensburg State Normal of Missouri, the Emporia Normal of Kansas, Phillips University of Enid, Oklahoma, and the Original Tri-Angular. This club was one of the originators of the Original Tri-Angular and was the only organization.

The debate this year with the Methodist College of Clarendon, Texas, was the first debate the P.D.C. has had in three years, but it showed that the old debating ability was not lost. The debate was hotly contested at both places. The home team got a unanimous decision while the team which invaded the land of the longhorns carried off one judge, thus giving the club four out of the six judges, and making the P.D.C. the winner of the series. The men representing the club this year were Bob Lasley, Leonard Schaefer, Chester Duncan, and Elbert Mariatt.After the debate the leading social event of the season was celebrated by the club and its visiting friends. This seventeenth annual banquet was a great success. It consisted of a seven course luncheon.The banquet hall was elaborately decorated in pink and green, and while the banqueters dined Shaw's Orchestra furnished beautiful music.

At the close of the banquet the P.D.C. Octet rendered a few selections and the occasion closed by the singing of "The Star Spangled Banner," by the entire crowd.Not only does the P.D.C. take exceptional interest in their club and social work, but it is found that their members are among the foremost boosters of N.S.N. They support all worthy moves which are brought forth in the interest of Old Northwestern and are found on the firing line all the time when the interest of their Alma Mater is at stake.

N.S.N. Debating Club first row: Dunning, Kammerzell, Soliday, Arnote, Porter, Sockwell, Clark, Sears. Second Row: Watkins, Veatch, Smithson, Carey, Kuntz, Bruner, Graves. Third Row: Prentiss, Presnall, Coffman, Vinson, Coach, Baird, Ruggles, Mosshart,

Walker.Officers: Floyd Porter, Pres.; Harry Soliday, Vice-pres.; Everett Veatch, Sec.; Enos Walker, Assistant Sec.; Foster Stockwell, corresponding sec.; Frank Bruner, Tras.; Claude Baird, reporter; Carl Smithson, Marshal; Harry Dunning, Critic; Foster Stockwell, asst. Parliamentarian; A. G. Vinson, Parliamentarian. Club Colors - purple and gold.There is a spirit in every well balanced school which finds its expression in debating. The mental development gained from this practice of the science of argumentation is just as essential to the thorough education the individual as is the physical development furnished by athletics. To satisfy this need the N.S.N. Debating Club was organized in September, 1907, by a group of young men, students of Northwestern, who believed that there was enough material in school to support two debating organizations.The sound judgment of its founders has been proven by the record which the Club has made for itself in the ten years of its history.In 1913 it came off victor in the double debate with the Kansas State Normal School at Emporia, besides gaining the Normal School Championship at home by winning both the preliminary and final contests of the double Triangle of Oklahoma. In 1914, the inter-collegiate debates were thrown open to the school, and in that year the N.S.N. Club furnished seven of the eight debaters who handled the dual Emporia debate and the "Triangular" of Oklahoma. In 1915-16 the leading speakers of both Triangular teams were N.S.N. men and this year the four men selected for the State debate are all N.S. N.'s.The membership of the N.S.N. Debating Club consists of loyal, enthusiastic young men who are at Northwestern for the purpose of getting the splendid training afforded by this institution, and after graduation they are unanimous in the statement that more beneficial than any other one factor of their education is the training afforded them as members of the "N.S.N."Most notable among the social affairs given by the Club this year were: a Hallowe'en picnic, at which time the Club members and their friends motored to the bat caves twenty-five miles west of town, and the Seventh Annual Banquet of the Club, given on the evening of March 6.The successful record of the Club in the past has been due to the hard work and loyalty of every member. It now has among its members some of the most energetic workers and ablest debaters in the school, and as its coach Professor A. G. Vinson, whose capabilities are known throughout this part of the state. With these advantages the Club hopes to make its future even greater than has been its past, and invites the students of Northwestern to attend its meetings and lend their aid toward its further success.

Excelsior Literary Society - Standing: Martin, Green, Curtis, Caach Perceful, Clark, Callison, Karn, Grantham, Lambert. Sitting: Allen, Hurt, Hollen, Stone, Moyer, Ranck, Hollen, Coach Crawford, Moyer, Callison. Among the several clubs of Northwestern is one which was organized during the summer months of 1916. A band of about thirty teachers and students organized themselves into a club for the purpose of working out on general literary lines, as music, debate, public speaking, the study of authors, parliamentary law, etc. This was enjoyed so much by the young people, that they put on a play under the direction of Miss Crawford, at the Rex Theatre. Many of the members left school during the fall term to teach a various places over the state, but the few who remained worked diligently and at this time the club has sixteen members.Professor Perceful and Miss Crawford have been selected for the Club Coaches, and with their help, a debate team was able to enter the preliminary contest for the Triangular debate. We hold that the future has many things in store for this young society and though we have not the history of the past of which to boast, we will have in the future a club that will train both boys and girls along lines which will not only interest them, but will prepare them for their work outside of school.

The Ranger Rooter's Club
The "Rooters" club met and organized on Friday Sept. 2, 1916, nearly every student being present. A president was elected then yell leaders and various other officers. Much of the success of Old N.S.N.'s athletics, was due to the ardent support of this band of enthusiastic students. Every team which clashed in any sort of athletics with "The Rangers" on home grounds was always given a hearty reception by the "Rooters Club." All such courtesy speaks well for the school first and secondly it shows that each student is as a committee of one vitally interested in "Our" school. When the first "Ranger Basket Ball squad" left for the coast, they were given a sendoff, in which every student, who was physically able to attend; did so. This occasion will live only second in the memories of the students and townspeople in comparison to the grand reception given the quintette on their return home. The Rooters club supports as well, all forms of school activity, always having a grand majority of the students present at debate and reading contests. If it takes spirit and support to win, in school contests which we're sure it does, then the "Rooters Club" is an immense success.

The Science Club of N.S.N. The Science club was organized in 1906 by Professor G. W. Stevens who was chosen President of the Club and afterwards elected president each succeeding year as long as he remained in the school. Much interest was manifested and a great deal of work done under the leadership of Professor Stevens.During the present school year the Science Club was reorganized and the following officers were elected; T. C. Carter, President; Professor A. G. Vinson, Vice-President; Professor M.C. Mann, Secretary; Professor S. C. Perceful, Treasurer.The present active membership consists of about forty students and teachers who are interested in scientific work.Among those who have presented scientific papers recently are: Professor Perceful, Bert Raney, Professor Mann, Fant Word, Professor Geyer, Ben Rackley, Lleslie Wilcox, Frank Hess, Gladys Bingham, Carlos McGill and W. L Eagan.It has been the custom of the club to secure the services of a noted lecturer sometime during the year the proceeds being given to augment the "Students Loan Fund."The primary objects of this organization are to discuss subjects of scientific interest and for the encouragement of scientific research.

Y.W.C.A Cabinet
Audrey Bainum, Loine Floyd, Berice Fogle, Ione Clark, Nina Hopper, Etta Creech, Emma Donaldson, Luella Harzman, Ethel Albright.Among the many organizations which have helped to make school life at N.S.N. pleasant and worth while is the Young Womens Christian Association. While the sororities, clubs and classes have their distinct phases of work, it is the Y.W.C.A. which upholds Christian standards of the school. The intimate association with girls whose ideals are high, whose efforts are to attain the best in life for themselves and others, has an influence that is ennobling and which cannot be attained anywhere else in school.The Young Womens Christian Association is a world-wide movement.

In being a member of the Y.W.C.A. at Northwestern one is, first, a part of the Southwestern Field with headquarters at Dallas, Texas, then, the National Board of New York City, and lastly the Christian Federation of the World.The purpose of the Association is... "To unite the women of the institution in loyalty to Jesus Christ, to lead them to accept Him as their personal Savior, to build them up in the knowledge of Christ, especially through Bible study and Christian service, that character and conduct may be consonant with their belief. It shall thus associate them wit the students of the world for the advancement of the Kingdom of God.

It shall further seek to enlist their devotion to the Christian Church and to the religious work of the institution."

Y.M.C.A Cabinet
Walker, Julian, Baird, Schnitzer, Rackley, Raney, Stockwell, Sheldon.Among the many organizations that have helped the put N.S.N. on the map is the Y. M. C. A. The object of this society is to provide a home-like resort with good influences for young men. It advises its members to religious, social and moral advancement. Of all the forces for wise training and uplift for young men and boys, none have achieved a greater success than the Y.M.C.A. The close association with young men whose ideals are high, whose every effort is expended in the direction of higher and greater attainments for themselves and others, has an ennobling influence not to be found elsewhere in school life. The examples of young men and the high moral tone evidenced in school activities speak in clarion tones of the achievements of this band of young men.The support of the faculty has been of unspeakable help since the beginning of this association. Among the foremost are Pres. Graves, Professors Vinson, Carter and Sheldon.The present outlook for the coming year is brighter than ever with Dewey Mosshart, President; Claud Baird, vice-president; Enos Walker, Treasurer; and Everet Veach, Secretary, there is no reason why the Y.M.C.A. of Northwestern will not be one of the most active and helpful of any school association in the state.As no school can be ranked among the first without a Y.M.C.A., it is the duty of every loyal young man and student to get behind it and make what it stands for -- a developer of body, and and soul.
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Butch Cassidy, Sundance Kid & Mysterious Etta Place

Vol 16, Iss 7 Omaha, NE - What happened to Sundance Kid's wife, Etta (Ethel) Place in her mysterious disappearance in 1907? Will the mystery ever be cleared up? Did Cassidy & Sundance Kid fake their own deaths?

Yankee Desperadoes Holdup Argentine Republic

In the Omaha Daily Bee, Omaha, Nebraska, dated 14 October 1906, page 35, had the following headlines: "Yankee Desperadoes Holdup The Argentine Republic." It was a tragic and romantic story of the exploits of a gang of western train robbers in South America.

As the story reads, Four leisurely horsemen just after ten o'clock one morning early in last March appeared in the public square of Villa Mercedes, in the province of San Luis, which occupied a central position in the Argentine Republic. Three of the men, it was noticed by those members of the population who were not too sleepy to notice anything at all, were of about medium height, well knit, bronzed and athletic. The fourth was shorter and of slender physique, with delicate hands and feet, and with the flush of youth upon cheek and brow.

The horsemen unconcernedly pulled up in front of the small hotel that occupied one side of the square and ordered drinks from the waiter, who emerged lazily in answer to their bidding. Having disposed of their refreshment and handed back their empty glasses to the dull witted servitor, the strangers deliberately dismounted and led their horses across the square, where they stopped again in front of the bank, which bore the imposing title Bank of the Nacion Argentine and was a branch of the Bank of Terrapoca of Rio Gallegos. The three stalwart members of the party tossed their bridle reins to their smaller companion and entered the bank.

At that hour of the day in Villa Mercedes, as in most other inland towns of the Argentine Republic, there was very little doing in the way of business activity, and upon the particular occasion in question a solitary clerk was in charge. This individual, casually glancing up from the ledger spread out before him, was intensely surprised to find himself gazing with rapt concentration into the frowning muzzle of a large revolver pointed directly at him by one of his visitors, who accompanied the operation with a sharp reminder that death would instantly follow any outcry or attempt at resistance.

Meanwhile, the two comrades of the man behind the gun had vaulted over the counter and were rapidly, but systematically gathering up all the cash and securities exposed to their view. They had not completed their task when the manager of the bank, having perceived from the outside an apparent access of business to the institution of which he was the Villa Mercedes head, stepped in to take personal charge of whatever transaction might be in progress.

He was promptly shot in the head by one of the intruders, all three of whom, with drawn weapons, backed out through the open door and sprang upon their horses, the whole quartet galloping out of town before the residents had fairly awakened from their accustomed state of somnolence. In a few moments the entire township was ablaze with excitement, but the marauders had made good their escape and all efforts to overtake them were futile.

During the few preceding months there had been two or three similar attacks in various sections of the Argentine, and this final assault, obviously maneuvered by the same band that had taken part in the previous outrages, served to stir the authorities of the Southern republic. They found among the documents in their possession, and which had been in their possession for a long time back, a notification from the Pinkerton National Detective Agency, through a representative visiting the Argentine, that in the year 1901 a band of North American train and bank robbers had landed in Buenos Ayres and had taken up a permanent residence in the remote interior.

This gang consisted of Harry Longabaugh, alias "the Sundance Kid," Mrs. Harry Longabaugh and George Parker, alias Ryan, who were subsequently joined by Harvey Logan, alias "Kid" Curry. These were the four persons engaged in the Villa Mercedes affair, which netted them between $15,000 and $20,000.

The news report stated it was Etta Longbaugh, wife of Harry Longbaugh, who, dressed in masculine attire, held the horses of herself and her companions in front of the Villa Mercedes branch of the bank of Tarrapaca, while it was being robbed by her husband and his mates, just as she had held their horses upon other occasions when similar raids were made in the Argentine.

Mr. and Mrs. Longbaugh and George Parker sailed from this country directly for Buenos Ayres. After reaching Buenos Ayres they took passage on a coastwise steamer to the port of Bahia Blanca, still further south. From this place they shipped upon a semi-monthly river steamboat to an inland point called Rawson, striking out across country mounted on mules. They had already purchased extensive pasture lands to the southward some seventy-five miles from the small village of Cholulo, where their nearest white neighbors were situated.

when they reached their destination the party had traveled in all some seventy-four days from New York, thirty-nine days to Buenos Ayres, twenty days more to Rawson and fifteen days from that interior hamlet to their ranch, which is in the province of Chibute, or Chubut, in the Department of the Sixteenth on October (1906).

The capital required for this investment, together wight he no inconsiderable amount demanded for traveling expenses on the journey of twelve thousand miles, had been derived from sundry train and bank robberies in the Western part of the United States, the bold and daring character of which will be described later.

It is apparent that Longbaugh, the leader of what is left of one of the most noted bands of robbers in this country, intended, when framing up the trip to South America, to abandon the life of outlawry and become a legitimate rancher, together with the man and woman who accompanied him. The ranch upon which the little party settled occupies a high tableland in the Indian country of the South, and from its surface there is a perfect view of the country for twenty miles or more in every direction. The spot is inaccessible in the extreme, and if any attempt were made to dislodge or capture the "Americanos" it might require the services of a full regiment of soldiery and would undoubtedly end in much loss of life, owing to the naturally defensive quality of the position.

Even then it is extremely doubtful if their capture might be effected, for there was reason o believe that the northern bandits had acquired a very thorough knowledge of the county they had chosen to honor with their presence. They began operations upon their elevated tableland by erecting living quarters, and proceeded in due course to stock the ranch with sheep, horses and cattle. According to such information as may be gleaned from the Indians (for white men have not considered it a healthful proposition to invade the Longbaugh-Parker-Logan territory), there were between five hundred and one thousand head of domestic animals then upon he ranch.

It was opposed that Longbaugh and his friends miscalculated in the matter of how far their funds would go and found they could not swing the ranching proposition upon their original capital. In this emergency they went back to first principles and took up the series of exploits the most recent of which to be recorded took place in Villa Mercedes.

The stuff of which the three men and their woman consort was made may be gathered from the fact that as the crow flies the Villa Mercedes was approximately four hundred miles from the ranch which they made their home. The actual journey must have been fully half again as long, owing to the rough and circuitous route necessarily followed, both going and coming. But the members of the band had been accustomed to much sterner feats of horsemanship and endurance in North America, and they quite probably looked upon the Villa Mercedes undertaking as a mere incident of ordinary life.

Once before two of the men, in playful mood, presumably Logan and Parker, were traveling in the mountains in a stage coach, the only other occupants of which were the driver and one passenger. In the course of conversation they learned that their fellow voyager had with him a trunk containing a large sum of money in gold. At a convenient place where the coach was traversing the edge of a deep ravine the two Americans pitched the driver and passenger headlong into the abyss below, rifled the trunk of its golden contents and rode off upon the backs of the coach horses, escaping unmolested to their distant plateau.

Although their identity was more than suspected and their location had been made known to the authorities through the Pinkertons, no visible attempt was ever made to overtake and punish the ostensible ranchers.

A certain romantic interest was thrown about this little coterie of desperadoes by reason of the presence among them of Etta Longbaugh, the intrepid wife of the leader. She ws but twenty-six years of age, with graceful, girlish figure, dark, flashing eyes, regular features, brilliant white teeth and a mass of wavy dark hair. She could shoot wight he rapidity and precision of a professional marksman, handling rifle and revolver with equal deftness. She wore masculine attire almost invariably and rode astride of her horse quite as well and wishfully as much fortitude as her male associates. Where she originally found Longbaugh, or where he found her, is not an item of poise history, but the Pinkertons would probably pay any one who would identify and furnish her pedigree.

It was known that she went with Longbaugh when he left this port upon his long journey to the Argentine. There was a belief that Etta in her youth was a Western cowgirl known as Etta Place, and that Longbaugh met her and induced her to run away with him during one of his holdup raids in this country, some years ago.

It was altogether probable that Longbaugh and the rapidly dismissing remnant of his outlaw gang in America were induced to emigrate to southern climates by the uncomfortable pressure of the net that the Pinkertons, together wight he regular police, sheriffs and United States marshals of the Western States, had been drawing about their quarry, slowly but surely, for eight or ten years.

It was one of the special provinces of the Pinkerton agency to safeguard the interests of express and railway companies and of banking institutions that were members of the American Bankers' Association. In this capacity they were constantly in pursuit of the various classes of criminals whose aim it was in one way or another to rob express cars and banks. The most dangerous, as well as the most difficult, to capture of all grades and conditions of looters were the "stickup" gangs, composed of men fearless to the point of desperation, to whom bloodshed was a matter of not the slightest consequence, while they value their own lives as nothing at all.

For a number of years the section of Wyoming known as the "hole in the Wall" was infested with men of this description, from horse thieving, cattle rustling and similar pursuits they turned their attention to holding up railway trains and banking houses in small towns scattered all over the West, and they gradually formed themselves into various bands or mobs.

Knowing Logan's desperate character, the Pinkertons recommended to the Great Northern express Company that a night and day watch be placed over the prisoner in the Knox county jail to prevent his escape until he was delivered to the Columbus (Ohio) State prison, to which institution he had been sentenced.

On Saturday, June 27, 1903, Logan made a daring flight, through the gross carelessness of the jailer and special guards. He had been confined in a separate corridor under these guards. One of their number, Irwin, left his revolvers in a basket at one end of the corridor and went to the other end, directly in front of Logan's.

Logan murdered or participated in the murder of not less than ten persons, most of whom were killed in pursuit of him for train robberies. In some instances the killing was out of pure revenge for attempts to capture him, shooting his associates for giving information as to his whereabouts.

July 26, 1901, Logan traveled more than two hundred miles out of his way to kill James Winters, a well to do cattle man, whom Logan suspected of having given some information to officers in regard to him. It was also alleged that after George Curry, the second leader, one of the Wild Bunch, was killed by a posse for participating in the holding up of a Union Pacific train at Wilcox, Wyoming, Logan and Tom Capehart murdered Sheriff John Tyler and one of his deputes, both of Moab, Utah, members of the posse that had attempted to arrest the gang for the Wilcox holdup and who Logan believed had killed "Flat Nose" George Curry. The other murders he was alleged to have been concerned in were: December 25, 1894, Pike Landusky, Landusky, Mont., and June 5, 1899, Sheriff Hazen, at Tea Pot Creek, Casper, Wyoming, who with a posse was pursuing Logan and other raiders for the robbery of the Unions Pacific train at Wilcox, Wyoming.

After Logan's arrest the leadership of the Wild Bunch was assumed by Harry Longbaugh. Other members of this band hung, killed resisting arrest, serving long terms in prison or exiles to foreign countries were: Elza Lay, alias W. H. McGinnis, partner of Butch Cassidy and other members of the Wild Bunch, arrested September 16, 1899, and serving a life sentence in the Santa Fe, New Mexico penitentiary, for participation in the Cimarron, New Mexico train robbery, in July, 1899, by the Black Jack band, of which he was a member. Lonny Logan alias Curry, alias Lee, a brother of Harvey Logan, alias Kid Curry, killed at Dodson, Missouri, February 28, 1900, while resisting arrest, by a posse composed of Pinkerton detectives and officers of the Kansas City police department, for the robbery of the Union Pacific train at Wilcox, Wyoming, June 2, 1899.

Bob Lee, alias Bob Curry, a cousin of the Logan brothers, arrested at Cripple Creek, Colorado, by Pinkerton detectives, aided by two sheriff's officers, tried in the United States Court, convicted and sentenced to ten years in the State Penitentiary, Rawlins, Wyoming, for the robbery of the Union Pacific express train, Wilcox, Wyoming. He was sentenced on May 29, 1900. He died June 24, 1900, in the Santa Fe, NM penitentiary, from a wound inflicted by a posse of officers seeking his arrest for the robbery of the Colorado and Southern Railroad company, Cimarron, NM.

Ben Kilpatrick, alias John Arnold, alias the Tall Texan, was arrested in St. Louis, November 5, 1901, in one of the night resorts of that city. Upon his person was found a parcel of the unsigned bills stolen in the Wagner exploit, and he received a sentence of fifteen years in the Columbus (Ohio) penitentiary. Kilpatrick was pictured as a native of Concho county, Texas, a man of fine physique, who had been a murderer, highwayman, holdup, cattle rustler and outlaw for years. As in the case of Longbaugh, Kilpatrick had a woman associate who had never faltered in her loyalty to him.

When he was taken into custody the key to a room in the Laciede Hotel was found in his pocket, and inside this room the St. Louis police discovered a young woman, who was carrying in her satchel a bundle of the express robbery notes. This woman was Laura Bullion, alias Clara Hayes, born in Knickerbocker, Texas, and she was sentenced to a term in the Jefferson City (MO) penitentiary upon a charge of having stolen property in her possession. After she had served her allotted time in prison Laura Bullion went to Atlanta, GA, in order that she might be near her lover, who had, while she was in Jefferson City prison, been transferred to the Atlanta penitentiary. She was a typical Wild Western criminal, and the lines of her face, as shown in the police photograph, denote courage, determination and extreme fixity of purpose.

The remainder of the band, under the leadership of Harvey Logan, were Harry Longbaugh, alias Sundance Kid; George Cassidy, alias Ryan, and Etta Place.

This association of criminals acquired the title of the Wild Bunch, by reason of the utter recklessness of its members, individually and collectively, and the starting audacity with which its deeds of pillage and violence were accomplished.

The disbandment and extermination of this extraordinary clan of desperadoes had been due to the long, unrelenting and extremely costly pursuit by the Union Pacific Railroad and the Pacific Express Company, the American Bankers' Association, the Pinkertons, the local police forces, sheriffs, United States marshals and railroad and special policemen operating in the entire West and Southwest.

But the end was not yet. The Pinkertons, representing the railroads, express companies and the banks robbed by the exiled members of the Wild Bunch, were patiently awaiting their return to the United States, when they would eventually be brought to justice.

For a long time similarity in handiwork was about the only clue that could be followed. The outrages perpetrated by the Wild Bunch occurred at points so widely separated that but for the sameness which characterized all their doings it would have been considered exceedingly improbable that the crimes were executed by a single gang. The men were accustomed to conceal their identities while at work by tying folded bandana handkerchiefs across their faces directly underneath their eyes, so that it was utterly impossible to give an intelligent description of their lineaments.

An odd fact noted by the deceives who had been working for a decade upon this line of investigation and extermination was that by far the greater number of stickup robbers and murderers came fro Missouri and Texas. The cause of this situation was unknown, unless, indeed, it was to be found in the examples years ago set before the rising generation by the James and the Younger brothers, of Missouri, by all odds the most distinguished criminals of their time, although certainly by no means more crafty, desperate and indefatigable than the Wild Bunch. View/Write Comments (count 2)   |   Receive updates (2 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Duchess of Weaselskin

Vol 15, Iss 20 Bayfield, CO - Not much happening at the Raccoon Diner here in Southwest Colorado since we took down the jumping stump and made it harder for the 'coons to climb the wobbly pole to reach the bird feeders, but our friend in NW Oklahoma sent us the following time-lapse video of some purple (grape smell) Irises that were blooming in our front yard, in Alva, Woods, Oklahoma, 18 May 2013.

R.L. Wagner took this with his GoPro video camera. It was a foggy morning in Alva, Oklahoma that day. You got to love watching the yawning Iris opening up to the sunshine in northwest Oklahoma, don't you?

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NW Okie's Corner

Vol 14, Iss 51 Bayfield, Colorado - It was one week to go before Christmas Eve, and all through the house, some took a movie break, while the cat chased the mouse. Oh! Shucks! That is not quite right, but what the hey! We went dashing to town through the snow. What can I say!

We did go to an early Sunday afternoon matinee to see Spielberg's movie, Lincoln. The movie takes place in early January, 1865 with the House of Representatives debating the passage of the 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, and ends with the assassination of Lincoln, on April 14, 1865, when John Wilkes Booth, a famous actor and Confederate sympathizer, fatally shot President Abraham Lincoln at Ford's Theatre in Washington.

I found myself comparing the Republicans and Democrats of 1865 to the two parties of today (21st century). There was a complete about face, switch of what each believed in back during the Civil War as the Republicans were what the Democrats are today, and vice versa.

Our next step was visiting the Chronicling America old newspapers dating back to January, 1865, for bits of news from that time period. We will include some of those stories in this week's OkieLegacy Ezine and future Ezine's to come.

Besides checking into some history of the 13th amendment, we have been doing some splitting family genealogy files for our Maternal, Paternal and Husband's ancestry, updating our Paris Pioneers Genealogy, where you can view our PARIS, MCGILL and WAGNER ancestry pioneers.

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NW Okie's Corner

Vol 14, Iss 29 Bayfield, Colorado - Reading the History of Pendleton County, (W) Virginia and the beginning of the settlement, I found mention of my 6th great Grandfather, Frederick Keister (1704-1787), who had a son by the same name (Frederick Keister (1730-1815)). Frederick Keister, Jr. had a daughter named Esther (1767-1825) who married into the HOHL family.

The Keister-Hohl-Warwick-McGill Family Lineage:

  • Frederick Keister, I (1704 - 1787), my 6th great grandfather; married Hannah Green Batton Smith (1715-1790)
  • Frederick KEISTER, II (1730 - 1815) was born ca 1730 in Germany, Son of Frederick; married Hannah M. Dyer (1738-1819) about 1755, daughter of Roger Dyer (1699-1758) and Hannah Green (1706-1780). It is believed his family arrived at Philadelphia on Ship Virginia Grace 24 Sept 1737, and he pioneered on South Fork ca 1750. Roger and son William were killed in Ft. Seybert Massacre 28 April 1758; son James and daughter Sarah, widow of Henry Hawes, were captured. James escaped after two years and rescued Sarah when she had been captive about five years. Hannah Dyer, with daughters, Hannah Keister and Esther Patton, escaped harm as they were in Shenandoah Valley with relatives. Hannah Keister was devised 437 acres near Moorefield by her father. Frederick Keister was naturalized in 1762 along with other Germans neighbors. He was a Revolutionary War soldier serving as a Lieutenant in Rockingham County Company of Virginia militia in 1778, member of a band of Indian scouts and a 1st Lt. in 46th Regiment of VA militia in 1782. The Keister homestead encompassed the area of Brandywine village and part of the originial land is still in the family. Frederick and Hannah are buried on some of the originial land where the DAR placed a stone for Frederick with the dates of 1730-28 Nov 1815; Hannah's stone is chipped reading 1735-181_.
  • Esther KEISTER (1767 - 1825), Daughter of Frederick, II; married Adam Hohl (1754-1836)
  • Esther Hohl (1804 - 1853), Daughter of Esther; married Robert Craig Warwick (1801-1845)
  • William Fechtig WARWICK (1822 - 1902), Son of Esther; married Phebe Anthea Pray (1833-1905)
  • John Robert WARWICK (1857 - 1937), Son of William Fechtig; married Signora Belle Gwin (1860-1934)
  • Constance Estella WARWICK (1882 - 1968), Daughter of John Robert; married William Jacob McGill (1880-1959)
  • Gene M MCGILL (1914 - 1986), Son of Constance Estella; married Vada Eileen Paris (1916-1992)
And that leads us down to this NW Okie, Linda Kay McGill Wagner.

Enough of my ancestry, though. We had an OkieLegacy Ezine, Vol. 7, Iss. 6 -- 2005-02-12, concerning Danny Ray PARIS Family. Michele says, "I am your dad's older sisters daughter. My name is Michele Hewet and my mom is Virginia Paris Hewett. Have you found your dad? I have been trying to find him for a while now. He usually keeps in touch with my folks and we haven't heard from him in a while."

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NW Okie's Corner

Vol 14, Iss 19 Bayfield, Colorado - [images of Heaton/Clark family connection on the left and the McGill-Heaton connection on the right. Click images for larger view.]

There is a friend of mine back in Northwest Oklahoma that shares a 2nd cousin connection with Joseph "Joe" David Heaton. Joe D. Heaton died this past week, 2 May 2012. I have always teased my good friend, J. L. "Bud" Clark, about our ancestrial relationship, getting a slight grin and chuckle out of Bud as he denies any genealogical connection.

Our connection runs back to one specific person, Gladys P. McGill (1900-1988), as the key figure, who married Joseph William Heaton (1898-1965), settling near Capron, Woods, Oklahoma, raising three sons, John David (1924-2012), Richard Mac and Ronald Ray Heaton.

Gladys P. McGill was the daughter of Thomas David McGill (1862-1945) and Ida May Edwards (1867-1962). Thomas and Ida May (Edwards) McGill raised the following children were: Vella May (1890-1982; married Morton McKean), Glenna McGill (1891-1922), Carlos Leonardo (1894-1971; married Helen Ham), Mary Isabelle (1899-1900), Gladys P McGill (1900-1988; married Joseph Wm Heaton), Alba Rose(1909-1929).

My Great Uncle was Thomas David McGill, an older brother to my paternal grandfather, William Jacob McGill (1880-1959).

My Great Grandfather was William Pearson McGill (1835-1918), who married Isabelle McClure JOHNSON (1845-1926), raising the following children: Thomas David McGill, Wm Jacob McGill, Alice Elizabeth (1865-1929; married James D. Harris), Mary McKelvey (1869-1922; married Augustus Grant Vinson), James Acel (1872-1955), Charles Robert (1884-1971; married Elizabeth Nelson-Kidd), Lulu Belle McGill (1887-1975; married John Spencer Erskine).

My grandmother, Constance (Warwick) McGill would take us young kids to Gladys & Joseph W. Heaton's farm near Capron, Oklahoma to get eggs and chickens.

As it turns out, J. L. "Bud" Clark is this NW Okie's "1st cousin - 1x removed of husband of 1st cousin 1x removed." In other words ... Bud's mother Ida Cloe Heaton Clark (1889 - ?) married Joseph Lawrence Clark and they raised three children: Arvilla J, Jessie B, and J. L. "Bud" Clark, the youngest of three siblings.

Bud Clark's maternal grandfather was Jacob Cassleman Heaton (1863 - ), who married Minnie Laverne (unknown maiden name). Jacob Cassleman & Minnie Laverne Heaton raised the following children: Ida Cloe (married J. Lawrence Clark), Jacob Smith Heaton, Hallie C. Heaton, Berha M.Heaton, Eunice Heaton, Loyd T. Heaton, Liberty Heaton, Wyona Heaton.

Bud Clark's Great grandfather, Thomas Creighton Heaton (1833 - 1917), was from Fayette, Ohio; married Mariah Walker McNaught, raising the following children: Nathaniel C., Joseph Henry (1861-1944), Jacob Cassleman (1863-?), Ida May, Lyddie A., Edward Smith, Bertha Evaline, Agnes Maud, Homer C. Heaton.

Bud Clark's Great Uncle was Joseph Henry HEATON (1861 - 1944), born in Victoria, Knox county and died 12 January 1944, in Alva, Woods, Oklahoma. Joseph Henry Heaton married Talitha Louella Bachman and their children were: Pearl, Thomas Creighton, Edith, Clarence Earl, and Joseph William Heaton (1898-1965). Joseph William Heaton brings us to Bud Clark's relationship connection to Linda K. McGill Wagner (1st cousin - 1x removed of husband of 1st cousin 1x removed).

Tell the GOP, "Stop the War On Women"
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NW Okie's Ancestrial Lineage

Vol 13, Iss 19 Bayfield, CO - In a past "OkieLegacy Ezine I mentioned that I am at a roadblock with my LUTTRELL / CRAIGHEAD ancestors that married into my MCGILL ancestors. I am presently doing research and searching books, memiors and family histories for the CRAIGHEAD (name also spelt CRAIGHEID, CRAGHEDE, CRAIGIE, CRAGGY, CREAGHEAD and CRAGHEAD) and the LUTTRELL's descendants to see if I can unblock these roadblocks. I did find where a possible Craighead connection married the sister of Benjamin Franklin. More about that next week.

I know that my LUTTRELL / CRAIGHEAD ancestors settled around Knox and Hamilton county, Tennessee. I have found a Agnes Nancy Craighead that married a George Dunlap, which would possibly connect the Craighead's to the Warwick ancestors. BUT . . . the Nancy Craighead I am searching shows, she may have married Edward LUTTRELL, and had a daughter, Anne Nancy Luttrell that married William Nathan McGill, Jr.

This is what I have so far in my MCGILL / CRAIGHEAD family lineage below for Nancy Craighead.

Nancy Craighead (1757-1867)

  • Nancy CRAIGHEAD, my 4th great grandmother; married Edward Luttrell; their daughter was Anne Nancy Luttrell (1787-1860), born in Virginia, died in Hamilton County TN;
  • Anne Nancy LUTTRELL (1787-1860) Daughter of Nancy Craighead and Edward Luttrell; Anne Nancy Luttrell (1787-1860) was born in Virginia, died in Hamilton county, TN; married William Nathan McGill, Jr. (1783-1832), 10 Mar 1807, Hamilton County, TN; Children were: Hugh McGill (1802-), Walter Marshall McGill (1807-1878); Elizabeth Betsy McGill (1812-); William McGill (1813-); Nancy McGill (28 Feb 1814-17 Nov 1898) (Linda Kay McGill Wagner's 2nd Great Grand Aunt), born in TN, married Samuel Geddes Craighead (1814-1889), son of William and Jane Gillespie Craighead; born 13 May 1814; married in 22 Feb. 1838 to Nancy McGill (born 28 Apr 1814-), resided at Sulphur Springs, Rhea County, Tennessee, Samuel Geddes Craighead was a part of the fourth generation of the Craighead family, Children: Beriah G Craighead (4 Aug 1846-); William H. CRAIGHEAD (6 Nov 1840-6 Dec 1840); Margaret E. CRAIGHEAD (22 Oct 1842-1867) married 6 Apr 1865 to William I Julia; Newton C. CRAIGHEAD (5 Apr 1849-10 Nov 1868;

    Other children of Anne & William McGill were Newton McGill (1822-); Susannah Margaret McGill (1823-1894); Martin McGill (1825-); James McGill (1827-1839); Martha Ann McGill (1830-1848); John McGill (1831-1863)
  • David Milton MCGILL (1808 - 1850) Son of Anne Nancy Luttrell and William Nathan McGill, Jr. (1783-1832), born Monroe County, TN, died in Hamilton county, TN; married in 1834 to Anne Nancy McKelvy (1816-1908); Children: William Pearson MCGILL (1835-1918), Samantha Jane MCGILL (1837-1882), Newton Anderson MCGILL (1839-1929), John David MCGILL (1842-1849), James Abel MCGILL (1844-1844), Nancy McKelvie MCGILL (1846-1884), Zachary Taylor MCGILL (1849-1918)
  • William Pearson MCGILL (1835-1918), born in Soddy, Hamilton, TN, died in Alva, Woods, OK; Son of David Milton McGill and Nancy McKelvy Pearson (1816-1908); married 20 Nov 1861, TN to Isabelle McClure Johnson (1845-1926), daughter of Thomas C. Johnson (1815-) and Mary Ann Johnston (1816-1875); Children: Thomas David MCGILL (1862-1945), Alice Elizabeth MCGILL (1865-1929), Mary McKelvey MCGILL (1869-1922), James Acel MCGILL (1872-1955), William Jacob MCGILL (1880-1959), Charles Robert MCGILL (1884-1971), Lulu Belle MCGILL (1887-1975)
  • William Jacob MCGILL (1880 - 1959), born in Galva, McPherson, KS, died in Alva, Woods, Oklahoma; Son of William Pearson McGill and Isabelle McClure Johnson (1845-1926); married 23 Mar 1910 in Alva Oklahoma to (1.) Constance Estella Warwick (1882-1969); married in 1945 (2.) Blanche Rankin Miller; Children of Wm J. & Constance E. Warwick: Gene M McGill (1914-1986), Robert Lee McGill (1916-1954)
  • Gene M MCGILL (1914 - 1986), born and died in Alva, Woods, Oklahoma; Son of William Jacob McGill and Constance Estella Warwick; married 24 Mar 1940, Vada Eileen Paris (1916-1992); Children: Connie Jean McGill, Dorthy Eileen McGill, Linda Kay McGill, Amber Ann McGill
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NW Okie's Ancestrial Lineage

Vol 13, Iss 13 Bayfield, CO - Were the GWIN / GWYNN / GWYN / GUINN / GWYNNE / GUINN of Irish or Welsh descent? That is what I am trying to research now. From what I have come across so far, some reports say they could have been mostly Irish instead of Welsh descent.

The last couple of weeks we have shown you our CRAIG & VANDERVEER ancestrial lineage. This week We shall bring to light and share our paternal grandmother's GWIN / GWINN / GUINN / GWYN lineage.

My grandmother, back in the mid-1920's researched and did her DAR lineage to Capt. David GWIN. Grandmother Constance Estella WARWICK MCGILL ordered a coat of arms for the GWIN's but what I am reading that coat of arms was commonly sold to suspecting GWIN relatives, but was not a GWIN coat of arms.

At least one arms bearing GWYN family in Wales claimed Irish descent. As late as the 19th century, the GWYNs of Breconshire claimed descent from a 5th century Welsh king, Brychan Brycheiniog. Brychan was born in Ireland, the son of an Irish prince named Anlach and his wife, Marchel, heiress of the Welsh kingdom of Garthmadrun which later became known as Brycheiniog (Brecknock in English). The specific ancestry of Prince Anlach is unknown.

Claiming descent from Brychan, the GWYNs of Breconshire adopted the attributed arms of Brychan. You will often see these arms advertised by various companies as a coat-of-arms for all GWINN families which they are definitely not. Click the following URL for more information on King Brychan.

My GWINN Lineage:
1. "Sir" GWINN (1695 - ?), 6th great grandfather [I have seen some showing this as Sir Edward GWINN. I am still searching for more information on this GWINN to make a better connection.]
2. Robert GWIN (1720 - 1785), 5th great- grandfather
3. David (Capt.) GWIN (1742 - 1822), 4th great-grandfather
4. James GWIN (1774 - 1844), 3rd great-grandfather
5. Samuel GWIN (1825 - 1871), 2nd great-grandfather
6. Signora Belle Gwin (1860 - 1934), Great-grandmother
7. Constance Estella WARWICK (1882 - 1968), grandmother
8. Gene M MCGILL (1914 - 1986), Father
9. Linda Kay MCGILL (a.k.a. Linda McGill Wagner & NW Okie), daughter of Gene M McGill

Concerning the Irish Immigration to America, I found the following quote from a sermon delivered in the eighteenth century on the eve of sailing of a ship from Ulster to America. I forgot to list the Google books that I was reading it and can not find the exact quote right now.

BUT . . . Maybe someone out there has seen this quote that gives the reasons for the immigrants coming to the New World of America from Ulster, British Isles. The quote goes like this, "To avoid oppression and cruel bondage; to shun persecution and designed ruin; to withdraw from the communion of idolators; to have opportunity to warship god according to the dictates of conscience and the rules of his word."

Have we, in America, forgotten why our ancestors came to America? Why don't we have the tolerance for others religions since we should know through our history what our ancestors went through in their own countries that caused them to emigrate to America!

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NW Okie's "The Good Old Days"

Vol 13, Iss 10 New Amsterdam ( - I have been working on my maternal and paternal ancestors over at Ancestry - paristimes, especially my maternal Dutch Ancestors of CONOVER / KOUWENHOVEN / COUVENHOVEN. I have found some interesting stories, legacies and information in my research.

The photo on the left shows my Great-Grandmother, Sarah Francis CONOVER (KOUWENHOVEN/COUVENHOVEN) (1848-1924), who married Henry Clay PARIS (1844-1918). Their children were (not sure of the order but believe Grandpa Ernest Claude Paris is standing, far right): Arthur Henry (may be seated, on the far right), Volney Peter (1872-1960), Myrtle Mae (1885-1965) (the only daughter) & Ernest Claude (1879-1959); seated in front, left to right is Sarah Francis CONOVER PARIS, Henry Clay PARIS and another son, Decatur Ray (1877-1947) (Decatur may be standing on the backrow).

My Dutch ancestors sailed from Amsterdam 17 February 1659. Some arrived in New Amsterdam before 5 May 1659.

From papers relating to the first settlement of New York by the Dutch containing a list of the early immigrants to New Netherland, it shows one of my maternal ancestors Cornelis Janse VanDerVeer arrived in New Amsterdam, in 1659.

For the record this is a 10th generation listing starting with my 7th Great Grandfather and moving down to this NW Okie's (Linda McGill Wagner) maternal family tree of PARIS and CONOVER side of the family:

1. Cornelius Janse VANDERVEER (1623 - 1703) - 7th great-grandfather

2. Jacoba Cornelisse VANDERVEER (1686 - 1735) Daughter of Cornelius Janse. 6th great-grandmother

3. Dominicus COVENHOVEN (1724 - 1778) Son of Jacoba Cornelisse. 5th great-grandfather

4. Peter CONOVER (1769 - 1835) Son of Dominicus. 4th great-grandfather

5. Jonathan Coombs CONOVER (1797 - 1859) Son of Peter. 3rd great-grandfather

6. Peter CONOVER (1821 - 1900) Son of Jonathan Coombs. 2nd great-grandfather

7. Sarah Frances CONOVER (1848 - 1924) Daughter of Peter. great-grandmother

8. Ernest Claude PARIS (1879 - 1959) Son of Sarah Frances. grandfather

9. Vada Eileen PARIS (1916 - 1992) Daughter of Ernest Claude. mother

10. Linda Kay MCGILL Daughter of Vada Eileen. NW Okie

The Kouwenhoven surname has gone through many different spellings over the decades. Such as VanKouwenhoven, COUVENHOVEN and CONOVER. I would love to discover the real story behind that surname spellings.
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NW Okie's R & R In San Juan Mtns

Vol 12, Iss 52 Bayfield, CO - We have put up some younger year photos of Dorthy & Connie McGill at the ranch, a few miles north of Waynoka, OK and at 703 7th Street, in Alva, Oklahoma. The photo on the left is a picture of the Ernest Claude & Mary Barbara (Hurt) Paris siblings. You can see a slideshow of the whole collection of Dorthy and Connie's earlier years in the slideshow below.

We would love to find someone who can identify some of the little friends of Dorthy and Connie in these earlier photos. If you go to our Picasa website albm and leave a comment of possible indenties, it would help a lot.

Here's counting down to January 1st, 2011, Saturday -- Wishing you all a Happy New Year 2011!

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Ramblings & Rumblings With NW Okie

Vol 12, Iss 41 Oklahoma - Here it is twelve days into October 2010 and you can find snow on the tops of the mountains at the Wolf Creek Ski resort. I am not a snow skier, but I do love the Winters in the Rockies! Actually, I love being snowed-in and a cozy, warm fire in the fireplace. It will not be long now! For Winter and Snow ski season is just around the corner for some.

We are traveling "On the Road" to gather some interesting insights into our Okie Legacy, and see where we came from. If, in your travels you have an interesting insight about our Okie Legacy, we would love to hear from you and share it with our subscribers. Just email this NW Okie (EMAIL: We would love to share your photo memories, also! Thanks!

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NW Okie's Ramblings

Vol 12, Iss 38 Bayfield, Colorado - Okay! I guess Duchess told on me, huh? I am a day later than usual, but can you blame me for wanting to be outside in the Fall, cool rocky mountains, instead of in front of my laptop?

Save a spot on the Alva (Oklahoma) downtown square for us this coming Saturday morning. Will it be cool, cold, rainy or sunny?

Can not wait to see my 2010 paint filly while we are back in Northwest Oklahoma. Not to leave out visiting with my other horses, Nugget, Maggie, Cindy and Doquoti. Do not forget to turn down the thermometer this week and next, though.

I am going to keep this short! If you see Lovina and Bud Clark, tell them you hear Wagner's are visiting NW Oklahoma for the rest of September 2010.

I suppose I should give some reason for being "A day late and a dollar short," huh?

All day yesterday I got this idea to fix up a database to view my Paternal, Maternal and Husband's family ged files in our MySql, php database.

I found this PhpGedView open-source program that, if your webserver allows, lets you run a MySql database, you can use PhpGedView to configure your mysql database to read, search, edit and display your ged files and share with your family across the globe.

I am still in the process of uploading my ged files and setting up my family genealogy database, Paris Times Pioneers genealogy. I have the Paternal family tree uploaded and will be adding the Maternal and Wagner family genealogy later. I still need to fine tune some things yet, and will keep you updated when it is up and running. We shall see how well it works!

We hear that Texas around the Dallas area received at least 7/8 inches of rain and tornadoes. What part of that passed through to Tyler, Texas that sets about 90 miles East of Dallas along Interstate 40?

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Vol 12, Iss 37 Alva, Oklahoma - Where has the month of September gone. I know it is only reaching mid-way, but why do the days past so quickly?

Only a little over a week plus a few days until Northwestern OSU has their Fall Homecoming 2010. How many homecoming does this make for NWOSU (a.k.a NTN, NSTC, NSC)? 1899? I have lost track, but know that I have run across the first homecoming somewhere in my notes and research. Maybe someone out there reading this could enlighten all us Northwest Oklahomans.

In less than two weeks we will be stomp, clapping to the school bands marching around the Alva downtown square. The YouTube video was taken 1 November 2008 of the marching bands.

According to our research on Northwestern, in Volume II, Issue 81, dated 21 October 2000, titled "A Homecoming Mystery Bands, Floats & Celebrations," a celebration with floats in a great parade was being planned as far back as 1 July 1899. Was this the first homecoming? July 1, 1899 -- The work on the building of the famous Castle on the Hill had so advanced that a committee began the preparations for laying the corner stone under the main tower in front. The program consisted of the usual ceremonies, led by the Masons. Governor Barnes and several other territorial officers, and Grand Master E. M. Bamford were present. President Ament introduced Governor Barnes as the first speaker. He was followed by Judge McAtee, S. L. Johnson and Hon. Temple Houston.

The following is a list of articles that were placed within the corner stone -- Roll of officers and members of the grand lodge and local lodge A. F. & A. M.; same of the Alva Commercial Club; same of the legislature 1897; copies of the Alva Pioneer, Courier, Review and Cleo Cheiftain; copy of program of the day's exercises and names of President Ament, Miss Bosworth and Mrs. DeLisle.

The day was one of general celebration, the businesses of the town being represented by floats in a great parade. The crowd present was guessed at 4000 to 6000. Some More Normal History can be found on our website at this link Northwestern Normal School, 1895-1935 - beginning & conception

Barry Kelsey remembers, "We used to call it Northwestern State Teachers College. When my Grandfather went there it was called something like Northwestern Normal School."

Monet Monfort Lion says, "Yes, I believe it started out as Northwestern Normal School. I have many photos of The Castle on the Hill and a painted plate depiction made for Monfort Drug Store's China department! Rod reminds us that, "The original title of the institution was Northwestern Territorial Normal School, founded in 1897, 10 years before Oklahoma's statehood."

Marvin Henry says, "There are probably others who remember attending NSC while still in elementary school and jr high school. During the time Washington School was being rebuilt, about 1945, my 3rd grade class was held in the upstairs, first room on the left in what was known as Horace Mann building, now the education building. Junior High, 7th & 8th grade was on the second floor of the Horace Mann building. Industrial Arts (Shop for the boys) ground floor and Home Ec (girls) second floor of the Fine Arts building."

Off the subject of NWOSU and onto our family genealogy that I have at - Wagner genealogy, the subscription runs out around October 10, 2010, and I have decided not to renew that genealogy site. BUT it will not be a loss, because I have that information over at my family genealogy for the Warwick, McGill, Paris, Conover, Hurt and Wagner families.

Until November 21, 2010 our Paris-McGill-Warwick family genealogy will still be up for awhile at MyHeritage for the Paris-Conover-Hurt-Warwick-Gwin-McGill-Wagner Family. I may or may not renew this site in November, 2010, because a more updated version is over at my genealogy site. We shall see!

David, the two Pugs and myself are going to try to make it back for Northwestern's Homecoming. While there we need to check out our new little 2010 filly, black and white paint horse that grazes with her momma paint horse at Clark's East Farm, in Alfalfa County, Oklahoma. I hear it is a beauty!

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Immigrants Make Up America

Vol 12, Iss 27 America - With the talk of Independence Day, and this being the day after the 4th of July 2010, We ask you, "Aren't we all immigrants or Descendants of Immigrants?"

America is a land of immigrants and Native Americans. What would America be today if immigrants from all ver the world had not set foot on the eastern shores of the 13th Colonies, pushing the Native Americans westward onto reservations. Killing and slaughtering their buffalo beyond extinction?

What part did my migrating ancestors play in the westward movement of the Native Americans? I did some searching back through my family genealogy to figure out where each of my ancestral immigrants came.

We start with our paternal ancestors. The Warwick ancestors were English. The Gwyn/Gwin/Guinn were from Wales. The Hull/Hohl ancestors came from Rhineland Palatinate (Rheinland-Pfalz), Germany. The McGill's were Scottish from Scotland, migrating to Ireland and finally making their way to the America's.

Our maternal ancestors were the Conover (VanKouwenhoven), Dutch and settling in New Amsterdam (also known as New York, Flatlands). The Paris/Parris were English. The Hurt/Hurtosci were from Czechoslovakia (Bohemia), known also as Austria-Hungary. That brings us to our Great Grandmother, Anna Wallman (1863-1902), who married our Great Grandfather, Joseph P. Hurt, who migrated from Czechoslovakia around 1876. I do not know much about her because she died at the young age of 39 when she was struck by lightning in 1902.

I always thought that our Wallman ancestors were also from Czechoslovakia, but I found a 1880 U.S. Census that shows an Anna Wallman (born 1863, Russia) the daughter of Jacob Wallman (born 1833, Russia) and Maria (born in Russia). Could this be another Anna Wallman or could it be my Great Grandmother Anna Wallman Hurt?

The 1900 US Federal Census shows Joseph P, and Anna Wallman Hurt (born in Bohemia) and their family living in Bishop, Woods, Oklahoma Territory.

Great Grandmother Anna Wallman arrived in the USA around 1876 or 1877 through Bremen, Germany. At the young age of 16, Anna married Joseph P. Hurt, in Nebraska, about 1879. As I said earlier, Anna Wallman Hurt died in 1902, in Bishop, Woods, Oklahoma Territory, at age 39 when she was struck by lightning. She is buried in the Hurt family cemetery, on the Martin property, North of Chester and West of the Orion Cemetery.

That brings us to my husbands ancestors, which includes Wagner's from Germany.

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NW OK Marriage 1943

Vol 5, Iss 12 Oklahoma -

Fisher-Roby, Jr. - Saturday, 23 May, 1943, Alva, Okla. - Fisher, Roby vows Solemnized At Weigand Home Saturday Morning - The marriage of Miss Mary Alice Fisher, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Charles Fisher, 818 Center, and Max Roby, Jr., son of Mr. and Mrs. Max Roby, Sr., Wichita, was solemnized at 11 o'clock Saturday morning at the home of the bride's cousins, Mr. and Mrs. Carl Weigand, 729 Third St.

Albright-Clark - Thursday, 17 June 1943, Alva, Okla. - Gloria Albright Becomes Bride of Lieutenant Clark Thursday Evening - Mr. and Mrs. Charles Albright, 405 Tenth St., announce the marriage of their daughter, Miss Gloria Albright, to Second Lieut. Edward J. Clark, of the 92nd College Training Detachment, Alva, son of Mr. and Mrs. William J. Clark, Brooklyn, NY, Thursday evening in the parsonage of the First Christian church. The double-ring ceremony was solemnized by the Rev. G. R. Vaughan at 8:30 o'clock.

Aitken-Wagner -Saturday, July, 1943, Alva, Okla. - Miss Aitken Becomes Bride of Captain Ernest G. Wagner In Formal Church Ceremony Saturday - Before an altar banked with floor baskets of gladioli and white floor candelabra, Miss Phyllis Jean Aitken, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. King Phillip Aitken, 917 College, became the bride of Capt. Ernest G. Wagner, son of Mr. and Mrs. Ernest E. Wagner of Fond du Lac, Wis. The single ring ceremony was read at 11 o'clock, Saturday morning in the First Presbyterian church by the Rev. L. T. Knotter, church pastor.

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1938 NSTC Ranger Album

Vol 12, Iss 3 We have been sharing a scanned copy of the 1938 Ranger Album with family genealogists for awhile and thought perhaps some others might be interested in downloading a PDF file of the 1938 Ranger Album. It is a large file. You can either open it up in your web browser and save a copy to your computer -- OR -- right click on the link and "save as" to a folder on your computer for further genealogy research.

Here is the link for those of you looking for a copy of the 1938 Ranger yearbook, Northwestern State Teacher's College, Alva, Oklahoma, I have scanned it into a PDF file. Contact Linda McGill Wagner at email: and I will send you a link to the pdf file if you are having trouble viewing it in your browser and can not figure out how to "save as" to your computer. -- 1938 Ranger yearbook.
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Insight Into Grandma & Warwick's

Vol 11, Iss 43 With no more letters from john C. McClure, we assume that the communication of letters ceased to exist after August 1906 and Constance moved on to her next beau. Was it William J. McGill? We are not sure yet, but suspect as much.

NW Okie has been working on more of the Warwick census reports over at and updating information in NW Okie's Genealogy pages for Warwick / McGill / Paris / Wagner Family and adding old photos to the Family Photo Albums at her genealogy site.

Warwick Brothers: Peter, William N. John R. Meanwhile, while we leave you standing in the wings for more insight into Constance Estella Warwick McGill, we want to share this great old tintype photo we found of Constance's father and two of his brothers, Peter (Pete on left) and William N. Warwick (standing in back, center) and John Robert Warwick, the older brother is seated on the right.

Notice that Pete is holding in his left hand a pistol of some sort on his older brother John Robert Warwick. I love the old hats Pete and William are wearing. The old western shirt that Pete is wearing dates back to the 1880's and the civil war cavalry boots that Pete and John have on help date the photo, but not sure where the old tintype photo was taken.

John R. Warwick This is another old tintype photograph that I just adore of my great-grandfather John Robert Warwick that shows him perhaps in his early twenties. I do not know the exact date or where, but assume it was taken in the Virginia's.

John R. Warwick This other photograph is not a tintype, but is a photo mounted on cardboard and printed at McPherson, Kansas, C. Forell, Cabinet. Pete and John seemed to be dressed in their best farming duds with real cowboy boots instead of the civil war cavalry boots. You can tell John R. Warwick's hairline is reseeding and is holding an interesting looking hat in his hands. They both are sporting longer mustaches, but Pete's looks to have one of those handlebar mustaches without a pronounced, wax, curled ends like some did in those days.

Can anyone help identify/date when these photos were taken? Especially, the photo taken in McPherson, Kansas? Perhaps 1890s? What age would you suspect for Pete and John in this photo?
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Once Upon A Warwick

Vol 10, Iss 17 Once upon a time very long ago, William Fechtig Warwick was born 11 August 1822 in Augusta County, Virginia to Robert Craig & Esther (Hull) Warwick. [See WARWICK Genealogy.]

Sometime in William Fechtig Warwick's early thirties, he meet and married a young girl from the Pray (Prey) family, Phoebe Anthea Pray. Phoebe was born 3 May 1833 and died 1 May 1905.

To the union of William F. & Phoebe Anthea Warwick eleven children were born: Amelia E., born 16 July 1853; Paul McNeel, born 1856; John Robert, born 9 April 1857, Frost (Dunmore), Pocahontas County, WV; Charles Fechtig, born 31 August 1865; Amanda Gabrielle "Gabie", born 1871, marr. John Landis; James, Louisa Catherine; Nelson Pray; Peter "Pete" Hull, born 1862, in Virginia; Sallie.

From the third offspring born, John Robert Warwick, begins our journey from the Virginia countryside to Oklahoma Territory. BUT... First, the 25-year-old John Robert from Pocahontas County, WV, meets and marries a 22 year old girl from Vanderpool, VA. Signora Belle "Sigga" Gwin and John Robert Warwick were married 16 January 1882 in Harpers Ferry, WV. [See John R. Warwick's Obit]

Around nine (9) months later in Monterey, Virginia, John and Signora Belle's oldest child, Constance Estella Warwick, came into the world, 20 October 1882. About five years later a second offspring, Robert Lee, made his debute 5 November 1887, in Monterey, VA.

Sometime between the second child (1887) and the third child (1895), in 1893, John & Signora Warwick made their trek westward towards Kansas with a ten (10) year old daughter and a five (5) year old son. They settled around the Coldwater, Kansas area where John Robert Warwick was a teacher for a brief time before they settled permanently in the Cherokee Strip Outlet, known as Oklahoma Territory.

Eight years after their second child, a third child (Wilbur "William" Warwick) was born 13 October 1895, in Alva, Oklahoma Territory. John Robert "JR" & Signora "Sigga" Belle's third offspring, Wilbur, died in infancy, 26 May 1896 and is buried in the Alva Cemetery, Block 08-028-08, Woods County, Oklahoma. Wilbur's lonely little grave is located on the South & West side of the cemetery while his parents and siblings are buried on the South & East side of the Alva cemetery.

Of John & Signora's remaining two childern, Constance Estella Warwick, continued the Gwin/Warwick lineage when Constance, age 28, married William Jacob (John) "Bill" McGill, age 30, 23 March 1910, Woods County, Oklahoma.

After four years of marriage, William & Contance's oldest son, Gene M. McGill was born 27 December 1914, Alva, OK. Two years later a second son, Robert Lee McGill, was born 23 August 1916, in Alva, OK.

The marriage of William J. McGill & Constance E. Warwick lasted 30 years when they divorced and went their separate ways in 1940. Constance never remarried, but W. J. "Bill" McGill married his second wife Blanche Rankin Miller in 1945.

Bill McGill died at the age of 79 years, 7 August 1959, Alva, OK. Constance Estella Warwick McGill died 19 August 1968, two months short of her 86 birthday, in Alva, OK.

The youngest son of Bill & Constance McGill, Robert Lee McGill, was married twice, but no offsprings were born of either marriage. After serving in WWII, Robert L. McGill died of lung cancer, 21 February 1954, at the age of 37 years, in Alva, OK, while he was married to his second wife, Dr. Mariam Felicia Monfort (marr. 21 June 1950 'til Bob's death Feb. 21, 1954). Bob and is first wife, Helen Louise Soper (marr. 1 June 1944), were divorced 22 June 1948.

That brings us to the four daughters of Gene M. McGill & Vada Eileen Paris. I was the third daughter of four. My name is Linda Kay McGill Wagner (a.k. a. NW Okie). That is me on the left with Dorthy in the middle and baby Amber on the right.
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Jogging More Memories

Vol 9, Iss 10 Rod Murrow sent us a link to one of his Flickr photos of an old homestead northeast of Freedom, Oklahoma, just a mile off of highway 64. It is what survives of a rock prairie home beside a county road. We are curious if anyone knows anything about the history of this old rock homestead.

I am not quite sure, but this rock house seems familar. Have we mentioned, pictured this in an earlier OkieLegacy newsletter -- from a different angle? Check out Rod's message in the Mailbag corner, Little House On the Prairie.

Alma & Eugene McCann (sister & brother) were placed in the IOOF Carmen Children Home in 1938? Patricia Mills is doing family genealogy on her family and would like to know more about the Carmen Children's Home and the Checotah IOOF Home where Eugene went when the Carmen Children's Home closed.

We are still looking for any stories of the Old Opera House Murder of 1910; an old photo of Mabel Oakes; and the 1956 Avard Cold Case fiery death of Ann Reynolds. If you would like to share your ancestors stories & photos, please email NW Okie at EMAIL:

It was September 1918 when Albert Lemmon was shot and killed in Dacoma, Oklahoma by the Dacoma newspaper publisher, D. R. Carpenter. We are told that Mr. Lemon poured concrete sidewalks in the town of Dacoma, Oklahoma.

AND... Why was Mr. Lemon buried in Alva when his relatives were from around Freedom? Can anyone out there shed some light on this 1918 murder in Dacoma, Oklahoma?

Back to the St. Nicholas Hotel in Alva, Oklahoma for another memory jogger... Marty would like to know who the owners were during the late 1940's. Marty says, "The owners were really nice to me and kept a pretty close watch on me as they were friends of my parents."
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Update of 2006 Blizzard

Vol 9, Iss 1 We hear from some Kansas readers that the first part of January, 2007 there was snow, but only a few flurries -- about 45 degrees with sun -- a rather nice day. Other parts to the west got the blowing, drifting snow and road closures up towards Nebraska.

Rob Wagner took these photos January 4, 2007 as he was passing through Clayton, New Mexico a few days ago. Rob said it took him awhile to get through Clayton, NM because there was only one lane of traffic through town with the drifting snow from a week ago. AND... they were still digging out at Walsenberg, Colorado.
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Duchess' Soapbox...

Vol 6, Iss 31

Y'all know that for the past eight weeks Oakie and I have been on the road between Oklahoma, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas and Texas with hardly enough time to take a pitstop and breather in our hometown of Alva.

Actually, we are celebrating Wagner's 35th wedding anniversary (30 July) in the Rockies. They couldn't find a "Wendy's" to celebrate at, but they did celebrate at the "Ore House Restaurant" in Durango this evening.

I had to twist Oakie's arm to set something straight here just this one time -- nipping something in the bud before it gets out of hand... so to speak! We just found out a couple of days ago that there is a lady in our hometown that has been FALSELY accusing my human being (Oakie) of pluckin' political signs off of our properties. What properties? We do NOT know for sure? Oakie wasn't even in the county when this allegedly incident happened!

Oakie told me that she expected better from this lady. We do NOT know why this certain lady holds such hostilities towards Oakie. We do NOT know who is informing this lady with information. BUT... whoever it is, she needs to becareful passing along this information to others -- her source is NOT RELIABLE! The accusations, assumptions made by this lady are absolutely FALSE, UNFOUNDED! Meanwhile, we will be standing by -- waiting with patience, optimism -- hopefully to recieve an apology from this lady.

People, friends who know Oakie know that she has a big, heart that would NOT even allow her to stoop so low as to "pluckin' political signs" from properties.

What is this country coming to when an innocent person's character can be attacked, assassinated with FALSE accusations, assumptions? The only thing this NW Okie is guilty of is working to rebuild some pride, hope, and optimism into this the world and NW Oklahoma through our OkieLegacy.
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Last Week Corrections & Gas Prices...

Vol 7, Iss 44 Last week we made an error in reporting that Hwy 281 ran through Okarche, Oklahoma. That should have been Hwy 81. Not sure what I was thinking when I typed 281, except Hwy 281 runs north and south through Alva, Oklahoma in the NW corner of the state. Anyway, one of our readers kindly got us straightened out and the correction has been in in last week's newsletter. Thanks, James, for that correction!

As to Unleaded gas prices this week in SW Colorado... they have been hanging around $2.73 to $2.75. That's about a 10-cent drop from last week. We heard on the news this week that someplace in Indiana that unleaded was selling for under $2.00 ($1.96). Our reader in Perry, Oklahoma reports that gas prices are still hanging around $2.12 to $2.14. Has anyone out there seen it lower than any of these prices? We would love to hear from you. Email us at or leave a comment under this feature. Thanks! View/Write Comments (count 5)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Do You Need a FREE Web Email?....

Vol 7, Iss 38 This NW Okie has been trying out Gmail & Google's web-based Email system. If you haven't already heard about Gmail, it's a new search-based webmail service that offers: Over 2,500 megabytes (two gigabytes) of free storage - Built-in Google search that instantly finds any message you want - Automatic arrangement of messages and related replies into "conversations." Gmail is still in an early stage of development. But if you set up an account, you'll be able to keep it even after they make Gmail more widely available. To learn more about Gmail before registering, visit: If you are interested, Email this NW Okie at - - and we will send you an invitation to open a web-based email account with Gmail. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Another Shooting In 1941 - Alva...

Vol 7, Iss 3 Does anyone out there know of anyone who might be able to shed some light on what became of Kenneth Root (17 years of age in 1941)?

Kenneth shot a Donald Benson (22 or 23 years of age in 1941). I am assuming that this Benson worked at the Alva Flour Mill and had a sister that Kenneth was dating back then.

There was this dinner at the Rose Hill School that Kenneth and Benson were at when the shooting occured. Kenneth Root was arrested by Sheriff Ken Greer and charges were filed against Root by County Attorney Bill Gruber. The presiding judge was J. J. Gaiser and the defense attorney was C. H. Mauntel.

We are told that after the trial Kenneth went free. We are trying to find out what happened to Kenneth Root. If you have any information on this 1941 shooting, please drop NW Okie an EMAIL: Thanks!
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$50 Reward

Vol 10, Iss 20 We found this reward sign amongst our family treasures, but do not know what year it was offered. Evidently... it was offered when $50 was a lot of money in those days. Whatever days that was!

Do any descendants of the following Ranchers listed below from Northwest Oklahoma remember anything about this $50 Reward ... Or recognize any of the old ranchers? One of those "Old Time" Cattle Ranchers was "McGill & McGill" (my relatives).

The reward reads: "$50 Reward will be paid, until further notice, by each signer for information leading to the arrest and conviction of any person or persons stealing cattle from this place or places of any of the signers hereof.

SIGNERS: O. F. Eversole; W. C. Wynn; E. D. Drake: W. R. Lahr; M. B. Graves; Cedardale, Inc.; Willis and Pugh; G. F. Roark; M. J. Cook; McGill & McGill; E. F. Moore; C. O. Parker; R. B. Converse.

If you know or remember any of these "Old Time" ranchers and have any information concerning this $50 Reward for Cattle Rustlers in Northwest Oklahoma, please contact Linda at Thanks!
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Old Opera House Mystery of 1910...

Vol 8, Iss 17 What are the talking about in the coffee shops in northwest Oklahoma and Southern Kansas? It must be the cover story that is making its debute in the May edition of the "Prairie Connection." This Harper, Kansas history newspaper hit the newstands this weekend. Do you have your copy yet?

The cover story this month is the 1910 murder mystery that occurred at the "Old Opera House" in downtown Alva, Oklahoma, written by this NW Okie, LK McGill Wagner. We began our story by setting the stage for 1910 in northwest Oklahoma. It was 9 November 1910, considerable excitement was buzzing through the government square of this northwest Oklahoma community, in Woods County. There had been a general election held just the day before. This November 9, 1910 was to be known as "A Day of Black Infamy." Sometime between the hours of 12:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m., November 9, 1910, young Mabel Oakes was found dead in the "old Opera House around 3:30 p.m. by Justice Miller. The local papers jumped on this story to the extent that a changed of venue was granted to the neighboring county of Woodward to the west. The trial lasted from September 5 thru 12, 1911.

Mabel Oakes, was a young country girl (23 years) living at home with her parents, George and Carrie (Howard) Oakes and a younger brother, Clarence (15 years). Through testimony, transcripts we find that Miss Oakes was a large, sturdy, supposedly healthy woman of that time weighing around 160 to 165 pounds. Miss Oakes was also 5-months pregnant at the time of her demise. She wore a tight fitting corset and a scarf wrapped tightly around her tall neck. Miss Oakes explained away the reason for the scarf tightly around the neck as a throat problem.

In 1910, Miss Oakes was known for her fainting spells for which she took prescribed medication of strychnine and morphine tablets. Were these fainting spells the cause of her broken arms, black eyes and bruises about her face. OR... her pregnancy? OR... were the fainting spells brought on by a heart condition or a tight fitting corset used by Miss Oakes to conceal her pregnancy that began in the early Summer of 1910? OR... were Mabel's unfortunate accidents of broken arms, black eyes and bruises the cause of "Black Hand Letter" threats?

Only Mabel Oakes memories of that time will tell us the whole truth. AND... those memories lay underneath the northwest Oklahoma soil, in the Alva Cemetery, in the Oakes family plot.

Meanwhile, catch the "Old Opera House Mystery (Black Hand Letters of Death)" in the May edition of the "Prairie Connection." We would love to hear some feedback concerning our "Old Opera House Mystery" story of the 1910 murder of Mabel Oakes in Alva, Oklahoma. You can contact Linda at - We are presently working to put together a timetable of chronological events that happened around that infamous black day in November, 1910. Would you like to hear more about the "Old Opera House Mystery?" Stay Tuned!
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Jacob & Mary (VANCE) WARWICK's Sketches...

Vol 7, Iss 14 Jacob & Mary (Vance) Warwick's framed sketches have found a family home. A lady (Carolyn) in California contacted us this week. Her family is directly related to Jacob & Mary... 4th great-grandparents through Rachael Primrose WARWICK (daughter of Jacob & Mary).

Linda went back through her WARWICK's and find that Jacob & Mary Vance WARWICK were her 5th-Great Uncle & Aunt through Jacob's brother John (Linda's 5th great-grandfather). From there on down to Linda McGill Wagner it reads as such...

  • John Warwick - m. Mary POWELL (5th-Great-Grandparents)
  • William Warwick - m. Nancy Agnes CRAIG (4th-Great-Grandparents)
  • Robert Craig Warwick - m. Esther/Hester HULL (3rd-Great-Grandparents)
  • William Fechtig Warwick - m. Phoebe Anthea PRAY/PREY (2nd-Great-Grandparents)
  • John Robert Warwick - m. Signora Belle GUINN (Great-Grandparents)
  • Constance Warwick - m. Wm J. MCGILL (Grandparents)
  • Gene McGill - m. Vada PARIS (parents)
  • Gene & Vada's Daughters (Connie, Dorthy, Linda, Amber) - 1st cousin 6x removed from Rachel Primrose Warwick
  • Gene & Vada's Grandchildren
  • Gene & Vada's Great-Grandchildren
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Past Is Prologue To Future!

Vol 1, Iss 4 It was on a Thursday, January 6, 2000, that NW Okie published this in her "Heart To Heart," as a "Letter to The Editor." Past Is Prologue To Future! It is our responsibility to learn the lessons of our forefathers and choose wisely the steps into the Future.
"....We all were sea-swallow'd, though some cast again, and by that destiny to perform an act whereof whata's past is prologue, what to come in yours and my discharge." -- Antonio's speech, "The Tempest," Act 2, Scene 1, Shakespeare.

You meet some really great people out there through their words of interaction in this miraculous magic media of the Internet. Once in awhile, some friends send you on a quest (challenge). Those challenges turn into events, actions, and interactions which can prod your memory while rewarding you with experiences and knowledge that leads you one-step closer to your destiny into the future.

This is one of those friends whom, "...Operates under the theory that we never forget anything we have learned. Its just that we have to wait until our subconscious brings it to the surface... Sometimes with much prodding."

I found this statement out there on the web. "The issues that have had a significant impact on the 20th century society will lay the foundation for continuest change in the 21st century."

The issues, events, and actions that have impacted us all on this Island of the Universe should make us pause in our daily chores. Let us reflect on the past since the "Past is Prologue to the Future."

How is the foundation stacking up in your life? As the past sets the preface or introduction and builds upon the foundation for continuest change into the future, may we always learn from the past and not be condemned or bound to repeat the mistakes of our ancestors as we move forward into the next "True Millennium, 2001."

A friend of mine, Ms Belle, is leaving you with this about that, "We (All) were lost at sea, but saved from drowning by being thrown up on the beach of this island. It must be destiny, we were saved to do something more... Being saved from the sea was being given a second chance to start over again."

Ms Belle goes on to mention, "We have made decisions which created the past which is the foundation of our future, but we are NOT bound by the precedent of the past. We can change what we think of the past based on what we have experienced and learned in the present and, with the aid of that growth and insight, determine in what way we will go forward in the future."

The Past Is Prologue and the learning and knowledge is within us all! You Never Stop Learning! The choice is to each his/her own to use wisely when building that foundation to the future!

LK Wagner
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1914, August 25, Musicians At the Front

Vol 16, Iss 28 Britain - A day or two before 25 August 1914, The Daily Telegraph stated that the eminent Russian composer and pianist, Rachmaninoff, had gone to the front. Among many other foreign musicians who had exchanged the music of peace for that of war were Chaliapin, the Russian singer, whose art, was shown in the last two seasons of Russian opera at Drury Lane, created furore.

There were two sons of Dr. Hans Richter; Siegfried Wagner; Paul Franz, the distinguished Parisian tenor; Kreisler, Dohnanyi, Ysaye, and his brother, and practically all of the male contingent of the Russian opera and ballet which delighted thousands in Sir Joseph Beecham's season. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Pendleton County, (West) Virginia - Formation & Early Middle Period (1787-1818)

Vol 14, Iss 34 Pendleton Cty, (W) VA - As we learn more about our ancestors of Pendleton county, (West) Virginia, we have found many names listed below showing up in our paternal genealogy of the Warwick/Gwin/Eckard ancestors. Especial how the Poage/Poague family married into the Warwick family. I have tried to include in parenthesis those in my ancestry tree.

Abraham Eckard's relationship to this NW Okie is as a paternal grandfather of wife of great grand aunt (Reuhama Gwin). Such as, Abraham Eckard (1791 - ), relationship to me: paternal grandfather of wife of great grand aunt; Absalom Eckard (1825 - 1898), Son of Abraham; Job E Eckard (1847 - 1911), Son of Absalom; Reuhama "Hami" GWIN (1857 - 1921), Wife of Job E.; Samuel GWIN (1825 - 1871), Father of Reuhama "Hami"; Signora Belle Gwin (1860 - 1934), Daughter of Samuel; Constance Estella WARWICK (1882 - 1968), Daughter of Signora Belle; Gene M MCGILL (1914 - 1986), Son of Constance Estella Warwick McGill; and that leads to me, Linda Kay MCGILL Wagner, daughter of Gene McGill.

Between the Early middle period of 1788-1818 we find that the county of Pendleton began its separate existence as the ninth of the counties which now constitute West Virginia. It entered upon a long career of peaceful and steady development. The Redstone insurrection of 1794 and the war of 1812 were remote from its borders.

At the close of 1787 the population of Rockingham was nearly 7000, including about 700 slaves. Two fifths of its area lying beyond the high, broad, and infertile Shenandoah Mountain, the time had come when it was too inconvenient to travel from 30 to 60 miles to reach the courthouse. Accordingly the State legislature passed an Act, December 4, 1787, for the formation of Pendleton county, Virginia.

Within the limits defined by the Act of 1787, the area of Pendleton was perhaps 850 square miles. On the east, north and west, the original boundaries had remained unaltered. On the south there had been two subsequent changes. The original boundary included the northern portion of the Crabbottom and all the rest of the present county of Highland that lies north of the watershed between the streams flowing into the Potomac and those forming the upper basin of the James. near Doe Hill the line therefore fell even northward of its present location.

The population and distribution of Pendleton inhabitants between the three valleys lived mainly along the larger watercourses with the mountains being an unbroken forest.

Seraiah Stratton house was decreed that the new county should be organized and the first term of court be held, laid about a fourth of a mile south of the Ruddle postoffice, only a few yards tot he west of the present highway, and close to a watering trough. The only present vestige of the dwelling was a mound of rocks marking the site of the chimney and from the midst of which rises a young tree. Tradition states that the court used the barn instead of the house. Whether the house or barn ws used, the charge of four dollars for the whole period of time during which the premises were used as a county seat does not look exorbitant.

The organization of the county government was described in the records as such: "Be it remembered that at the house of Seraiah Stratton, in the county of Pendleton, on the 2nd day of June and in the year of our Lord 1788, and in the 12 year of the Commonwealth, Commissions of the peace and of Oyer and Terminer, directed to Robert Davis, John Skidmore, Moses Hinkle, James Dyer (NW Okie's 5th great grand uncle), Isaac Hinkle, Robert Poage/Poague, James Skidmore, Matthew Patton, Peter Hull (NW Okie's 4th great grand uncle), James Patterson, and Jacob Hoover, Gentlemen, was produced and read and thereupon the said Robert Davis took the Oath appointed by the Act of Assembly giving assurance of fidelity to the Commonwealth, and took the Oaths of a Justice of the peace, of a Justice of the county court in Chancery, and of a Justice of Oyer and Terminer, all of which Oaths were administered to him by the said John Skidmore and Moses Hinkle. Robert Davis administered all the aforesaid Oaths to the said John Skidmore, Moses Hinkle, James Dyer, Isaac Hinkle, James Skidmore, Matthew Patton, and James Patterson."

"A commission from his excellency the Governor to Robert Davis, gent. to be high sheriff of this county during pleasure was produced by the said Robert Davis and read, thereupon together with Seraiah Stratton, Francis Evick, Roger Dyer (NW Okie's 6th great grandfather), James Davis, Isaac Hinkle, and George Dice, his securities, entered into and acknowledged two Bonds for the said Robert Davis's due and faithful performance of his office, which are ordered to be recorded. And then the said Robert Davis took the oath for giving assurance of fidelity to the commonwealth and was sworn sheriff of said county."

Of the eleven justices, Davis, Dyer and Patton were brothers-in-laws. The Hinkles were of one family, and the Skidmores were of one other, and were related to the Hinkles. It is quite probable that still other relationships existed.

The organization of the county government was perfected by the following selections: President of the court, John Skidmore; Clerk of court, Garvin Hamilton; Prosecuting Attorney, Samuel Reed; Deputy sheriffs, John Davis, and John Morral.

Overseers of the Poor, James Dyer, John Skidmore, Christian Ruleman, Ulrich Conrad, John Dunkle.

Constables, Gabriel Collett, George Dice, Jacob Gum, Johnson Phares, Isaac Powers, William Ward, George Wilkeson. County Lieutenant, James Dyer. Regimental Militia Officers: Colonel Robert Poage/Poague; Lieutenant Colonel, Peter Hull; Major Henry Fleisher.

Overseers of Roads: North Fork; (north to south) Michael Eberman, Abraham Hinkle, Isaace Hinkle, Moses Hinkle, South Branch; George Fisher, Michael Alkire, Francis Evick, Christian Pickle, Nicholas Harper, McKenny Robinson, George Nicholas, South Fork; John Wortmiller, James Dyer, Roger Dyer, Henry Swadley, Jacob Hoover, Christian Ruleman.

After building the courthouse on the lands of Francis Evick, and to hold the next court at his house, James Patterson was directed to attend the surveyor in laying out the courthouse grounds. He was also appointed jailer. To make the seat of local government more accessible, road surveys were ordered to Roger Dyer's, to brushy Fork, and to the North Fork at Joseph Bennett's.

The first grand jury met September 1, with Jacob Conrad being foreman. The other members were Michael Arbogast, Lewis Bush, Jacob Coplinger. Abraham Eckard (paternal grandfather of wife of NW Okie's great grand aunt), Nicholas Harpole, Isaac Hinkle, George Kile, Adam Lough, Robert Minniss, Frederick Propst, George Puffenbarger, Jacob Root, Joseph Skidmore, John Sumwalt, Philip Teter, and Peter Vaneman. With Hardy and Hampshire, Pendleton became a judicial district with the court sitting at "Hardy Courthouse."

Robert Davis was of a welch family that settled in North Carolina and moved to Virginia. He may have been the son of Robert Davis, an early settler of Augusta and its first constable. He settled a half mile below Brandywine, at least as early as 1764, purchasing land in that year of Matthew Patton. About this time he married Sarah, daughter of Roger Dyer and widow of Peter Hawes. His older brothers, John and William, settled also on the South Fork.

Whether John Davis was the one who was a justice of Rockingham and was appointed to let the building of its first courthouse was not really known, though. William died in 1773, and Robert was his executor. Robert was a major in the Continental army and saw active service, especially among the Indians west of the Alleghanies. He was present at the killing of Big Foot, a noted chief.

In 1779 he was commissioned Captain of militia for Rockingham, resigning in 1781. He was one of the first justices of that county, but owing to his military duties, he was not present to take his oath of office until May 25, 1779. In 1780 and 181 he was the leader if the South Fork patriots against the Tory faction. The disturbance was brought to an end by a truce he arranged with Ward and Hull. In 1784 he was recommended as coroner. In 1785 he and James Davis were the committee to view the repairs on the new Rockingham courthouse. In 1786 he became sheriff of Rockingham, and held this office until he became the first sheriff of Pendleton. He was again sheriff in 1804, and served his county as member of the house of delegates in 1793-94. He was a justice of the peace from 1778 until his death in 1818 at an advanced age. he was frequently called upon in the settlement of estates and in other matters of public business, thus indicating a high degree of practical judgment. he was one of the substantial residents on the South Fork. On his land stood with one exception the first mill in that valley and probably the very first schoolhouse.

Matthew Patton was one of the very first members of the Dyer Settlement, and after the murder of Roger Dyer he became a leading citizen of the Pendleton territory. he was commissioned a justice of the peace, August 19, 1761, and for a number of years he took the lists of tithables for this portion of Augusta.

James Dyer, brother-in-law to Patton, has been elsewhere mentioned. he was a prominent and well-to-do citizen, and much concerned in the public affairs of the county. The Skidmores of the South branch were enterprising citizens and large landholders. Captian John Skidmore had a military career in the Indian wars and doubtless also in the Revolution. He was wounded in the battle of Point Pleasant, and is said on one occasion to have killed an Indian in single combat.

Moses and Isaac Hinkle, cousins to Captain Skidmore, were progressive and energetic and of more than usual ability. Isaac was a sheriff of Rockingham a little prior to 1783. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Highland, Virginia - Given Names & Surnames

Vol 14, Iss 26 Highland, VA - We find in the History of Highland County, Virginia that nearly all the pioneers of Highland were adherents of the Presbyterian or of the Reformed Church. They were zealous Protestants. In naming their boys and girls parents showed a marked preference for names taken from the bible. We find a host of men named Andrew, Jared or Samuel, and a host of women with such names as Anna, Elizabeth, and Martha. Other names, such as Christian, paschal, Valentine and Sophia, are associated with church history.

We also find certain non-biblical names that had been used from time both the British Isles and Germany. Among these were Edward, Frederick, George, William Catharine, Jane and Margaret. Conrad was more distinctly a German name, while Robert was Norman-French. Alexander comes from the Greek language, was a characteristic name among the Scotch, as patrick was among the Irish, and Evan among the Welsh. There was a strong influence of classical study in colonial days that led to such names as Alcinus, Euphemia and Lucinda.

Feminine names were not generally taken front he bible, because biblical personages were more often men than women. Among other scriptural names in great favor were Delilah, Esther, Magadalena, Mary, Rebecca, Sarah and Susanna.

We find a lot of names in common use were the names of grandparents, parents, uncles and aunts that were given to the children, perpetuated from generation to generation, so that sometimes it was/is almost possible to trace aline of descent through the preferences in given names.

Until within a century past, a middle name was seldom employed. When it did occur, it was most generally written in full. Among the Germans, the double name was usually a compound of two given names, while among the English speaking people it was more commonly the entire name of some other person. Our ancestors were much inclined to put the two halves of the name on an equality and not to reduce the middle name to a mere initial.

Also, as the annals of Highland progressed, some of the names in use point to facts in national or state history. Later on the names preferred were very suggestive of certain tendencies of the times.

We find that the initials "G.W." pointed almost unerringly to the Father of his country, while the initials "T.J." and "A.J." pointed with well-nigh equal certainty to Thomas jefferson and Andrew jackson, the two heroes of American Democracy. The initials "R. L." reminds us of the great military leader of the Confederacy. Then there is the beginning notice "H.C." for Henry Clay, where there is little doubt as to the political creed of the parent who bestowed the name, just as the initials of "J.W." were the chances that the parents were followers of John Wesley.

We also found that because of state pride, girls were named Virginia. The names very common in one county may be very rare in another, though. Loftus, originally a surname, was an heirloom in the Pullin family. McBride, in the Gum family, relates to a resident of Hardy with whom the pioneer Gum has business dealings. Peachy, as a given name, appeared to have its origin in the upper Shenandoah Valley.

As to surnames, formerly there was no recognized standard in the spelling of English. Each person was a law to himself. The same name would be spelled in different ways, partly because of personal whims and partly because of individual peculiarities of pronunciation. Some of these variations would acquire a fixed standing and pass current as entirely distinct names. Thus they had in Highland the forms Kincaid and Kinkead. Rexroad in Pendleton became Rexrode in Highland. bodkin had become Botkin apparently through the German mode of pronunciation. Careless or slovenly pronunciation accounts for some variations.

A German or French name, , coming from a foreign tongue with its strange sounds, was almost sure to undergo some change in pronunciation in order to accommodate itself tot he English ear. This often lead to a change in the spelling. HULL for HOHL and SIMMONS for SIEMAN were instances in point. Sometimes the foreign name had been turned into its English equivalent, as when AUGE became EYE and WEISS became WHITE. AS to Highland, we there is no doubt that BYRD is English, that Douglas is Scotch, that Jones is Welsh, that Mauzy is French, that Swecker is German, that Vandevander is Dutch, and that Maloy is Irish.

Scotch Names

Alexander, Armstrong, Beather, Black, Briscoe, Callahan, Campbell, Carlile (Carlisle), Cunningham, Curry, Dinwiddie (Dunwoody), Douglas, Duffield, Ervine (Erwin), Estill, Fisher, Gall, Gibson, Gilmer, Graham (Grimes), Hansel, Helms, Hicklin, Hickman, Hook (Hooke), Jack, Jackson, Janes, Johnson, Jordan, Kinkead (Kincaid), Killingsworth, Lamb, Lewis, Lockridge, Lunsford, Malcomb, McClung, McCoy, McCrea (McCray), McGlaughlin, McNulty Middleton, Miller, Moore, Naigley, Peebles, Pullen (Pullin), Ralston, Redmond, Revercomb, Roby, Ruckman, Samples, Shumate, Sitlington ,Smallridge, Stephenson, Steuart, Strathy, Summers (Sommers), Tharp, Trimble, Vance, Wiley, Whistleman, Whitelaw, Will, Wilson, Wooddell.


Benson, Beverage, Bishop, Bradshaw, Brown, Carroll, Chestnut, Chew, Cobb, Corbett, Hicks, Hodge, Holcomb, Marshall, Masters, may, Morton, Oakes, Ryder (Rider), Rymer, Terry, Townsend, Wade, Woods.


Corrigan, Doyle, Griffin, Houlihan, Kelly, Lowrey, Maloy.


Blagg, Davis, Gwin (Gwynn), Johns, Jones, Price, Rogers.


Vandevander, Wees.


Brown (Bruno)


Bussard (Boissard [Bwas-sar]), Dever (Devier [Duh-vee]), Devericks (Devereux [Duh-ver-uh]), Matheny (Mathenee [Mah-tay-nay]), Mauzy [Mo-zee], Mullenax (Molyneux [Mull-le-nuh]).


Arbogast (Armenkast), Bird - Vogel (Fo-gel), Burner, Colaw (Kohler [Co-ler]), Deihl [Dile}, Eagle (Eakle), Evick Wig [Ayvick] Ever, Fleisher Fleischer (Fli-sher) Flesher or Fletcher, Fox (Folks) Fuchs (Fooks), Gum Gumm (Goom), Halterman Haldemann, Herring Hering, Hevener Hefner, Hidy Heide (Hi-deh), Hinegarner heingartner, Hiner Heiner (Hi-ner), Hull Hohl (Hole), Keister keister or Geyster (Ki-ster or Gi-ster), kramer Kraemer (Kra-mer), lantz lentz, Life Leif (Life), Lightner Lichtner (Liht-ner), Michael, newman Neumann (Noi-man New Man),Nicholas, Peck, Peninger, Rusmisell, Seig, Seiver, Seybert (Sivers) Seifert (Si-fert), Shaffer (Shaffier) Schaefer (Shafer) Shepherd, Shinneberger, Sipe Seip (Sipe), Siple Seipel (Si-pel), Siron, Snyder Schneider (Shni-der) Taylor, Sullenberger, Swecker Schwecker (Shveck-er), Swope Schwoop (Shvope), Wagoner Wagner (Vack-ner) Wagoner, Waybright (Winebright) Weinbrecht Bright Wine, White Weiss (Vise) White, Yeager Jaeger (Yay-ger) Hunter, Zickafoose Zwickenfus (Zvick-en-foos) Crippled Foot. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Highland County Virginia - Civil War 1861

Vol 14, Iss 14 Highland County, Virginia - This week we explore Highland county of Virginia and it's history and attitude of Highland people and the militia companies and the Battle of Camp Alleghany (13 December 1861, 105 acres, Pocahontas County, West Virginia) in the war of 1861 (Civil War) and how it affected Highland.

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In the presidential contest of 1860 the two great sections of the Union were arrayed against one another, each having a radical and a conservative candidate. The North presented Lincoln and Douglas. The South presented Breckenridge and Bell. Lincoln and Breckenridge represented the extremes in the four-sided contest. Only a handful of Southern men, and these in the border states, voted for Lincoln (Republican). Only a handful of Northern men, except in the small area where a fusion of the Douglas and Breckenridge followers was attempted, voted for Breckenridge. The conservative Douglas had a considerable number of votes in the South and the conservative Bell a considerable number in the North. Lincoln won the election because he was the successful candidate of the more populous section. Lincoln lacked a million votes of having a majority over the other three men.

It was the temper of the times that caused the political fight be be followed by the appeal to arms. In each section the conservative element came over to a more or less complete support of the radical, except in portions of the border states.

Highland gave a majority of more than 100 to Douglas, the Northern conservative. The vote in Highland was significant of the feeling of the people. It was Unionist from the Southern viewpoint. Secession was not in favor. Nine-tenths of the people were white, and the organization of society was more Northern than Southern.Yet the political sentiment was Southern. The river bottoms were largely held by a wealthy and influential class of slave holders. The commercial outlets were eastward, where the distinctive Southern feeling was still more pronounced. Unlike many counties west of the Alleghany, its social and industrial contact with the North was slight.

When the crisis came, in April of 1861, the people of Highland Valley followed their honest conceptions of civic duty, just as people did in all sections of the Union, both North and South. The mass of the Highland people sided with the action of their state, but there were some persons of undecided convictions. Some could not bring themselves to uphold secession and kept out of military service or went within the Federal lines.

George W. Hull was a delegate to the convention of 1861, opposed secession until President Lincoln's call on Virginia for 2,700 volunteers to help put down the revolution in the cotton states brought matters to a crisis. George Hull reluctantly, supported the measure.

George W. Hull/Hohl was a my 1st cousin 5 times removed through the following ancestors:

  1. Hannah KEISTER (1757 - 1837), Mother of George W.
  2. Frederick KEISTER (1730 - 1815), Father of Hannah Esther KEISTER (1767 - 1825) Daughter of Frederick
  3. Esther (Hester) HULL (1804 - 1853), Daughter of Esther
  4. William Fechtig WARWICK (1822 - 1902), Son of Esther (Hester)
  5. John Robert WARWICK (1857 - 1937), Son of William Fechtig
  6. Constance Estella WARWICK (1882 - 1968), Daughter of John Robert
  7. Gene M MCGILL (1914 - 1986), father of Linda Kay McGill Wagner.

For the May term of court all the justices were summoned, and of the 20 the following were present: John Bird, Thomas L. Brown, Cornelius Colaw, Samuel C. Eagle, William W. Fleming, William Hevener, Josiah Hiner, Felix H. Hull, Henry C. Jones, Peter H. Kinkead, Franklin McNulty, John H. Pullin, Henry Seybert, Adam C. Stephenson, David Stephenson, Edward Steuart, and Zachariah Tomlinson.

The Highland company was mustered into service at Monterey, May 18, 1861. Its officers were Felix H. Hull, Captain; J. William Myers, 1st Lieutenant; Samuel A. Gilmor, 2nd Lieutenant, and Jesse Gilmor, 3rd Lieutenant. It marched the same day to join the army under Porterfield in its advance on Grafton. It was in the skirmish at Philippi and the small battles of Laurel Hill and Rich mountains. The defeated army had to move down the Cheat to the Northwestern Turnpike, follow that road into the South Branch Valley at Petersburg. It then marched up the river, reaching Monterey July 19, 1861. In this retreat the men suffered severely from bad weather and roads, hard marches, and a lack of equipment and provisions.

It was by this time that re-enforcements reached Monterey. The Highland company was over 100 strong, but it was divided. All the men front he east of Highland were put into a separate company, styled B, with Robert H. Bradshaw, Captain; William R. Keister, 1st Lieutenant; Andrew S. T. Davis, 2nd Lieutenant; and Harrison H. Jones, Orderly sergeant. At West View, in May of the 1862, there was a reorganization, where Bradshaw being re-elected. W. R. Lyman, a cadet of the Virginia Military Institute who had acted as drillmaster and had volunteered as a private, was now elected 1st lieutenant. Jones was promoted to be 2nd Lieutenant, and William C. Kincaid became 3rd Lieutenant. After the death of Bradshaw at Port Republic, Lyman became Captain. He resigned in the early spring of 1864, and the company was thereafter commanded by its Lieutenants, Kincaid and Pullin.

The other company was designated as E. Its captain was S. A. Gilmor, later succeeded by J. C. Matheny. The Lieutenants were J. S. Gilmor, A. F. Swadley, and David Bird. The two companies were attached to the 31st Regiment, Virginia Infantry.

General Robert E. Lee took command in this section, and while in Monterey his headquarters was in the old corner house opposite the Methodist Church. He advanced to the Greenbrier, whence, September 11 and 12, he moved against General Reynolds, in position at Cheat Mountain and Elkwater. Finding the Federal position too strong he fell back after some skirmishing in which Colonel Washington was killed and some prisoners taken on each side. Some say that the orders of Lee were not properly followed. Son afterward he returned to Richmond leaving six regiments and two batteries not eh Greenbrier.

Finding transportation to the Greenbrier to difficult, Edward Johnson fell back up the Alleghany to pass on the turnpike a mile west of the Highland boundary. Here is where he established a fortified camp and went into winter quarters. Possession of this important thoroughfare was of much interest to each party.

On December 13th, guided by deserters, Milroy assailed Camp Alleghany at day break. Milroy's two columns of 900 men each failed to strike simultaneously and were repulsed and driven back after a hot engagement of eight hours. The Confederate force at this time consisted of the 25th, 31st and 52d Virginia Infantry, Hansborough's Battalion, the 12th Georgia, and the batteries of Lee and Miller; in all about 1,400 men. Four days after the battle the county clerk of Highland was ordered to remove his papers to a place of greater safety. The court protested against the use of its jail as a military prison, and orderd the commandant at Monterey to remove a Federal soldier named Thomas Carr.

The beginning of April the Army of the Northwest under Johnson consisted of 3,000 men and 12 guns. There were six regiments of infantry, the 12th Georgia, and the 25th, 31st, 44th, 52d and 58th Virginia, and a small force of cavalry. The main army was at Camp Alleghany, but there were small commands at Franklin, Crabbottom, Monterey, and Huntersville.

After the Civil War, the first county court after the close of hostilities met September 21, 1865. Eighteen members were present. During a subsequent period, ending with the restoration of local state government in 1870, many citizens were ineligible of local state government in 1870, many citizens were ineligible to office, being unable to act because of the nature of their connection with the Confederate army or government. Citizens on assuming office took the oath of allegiance to the Federal government. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

LK's Nutty Pecan Pie

Vol 13, Iss 48 Bayfield, CO - This is a pecan pie recipe that my mother made for us. My sister, Dorthy, and the rest of our Wagner family have made some changes to it by adding 2 cups (or more) of chopped pecans for a more nutty pecan pie without a too gooey, sweet filling like most pecan pies.

We used the Crust recipe that is with "Grandma Paris Apple Pie." Also . . . The vanilla extract that we use is a double intensity pure vanilla extract that we ordered online Zeron Fine Foods. Ingredients: 2 cups pecans (coarsely chopped)
2 eggs (slightly beaten)
1 cup light corn syrup
1/4 brown sugar
2 Tbsp melted butter
2 Tbsp flour
1/4 tsp salt
1 tsp. pure Vanilla extract (double intensity)

Instructions: 1. preheat oven to 375F. Spread pecans along the bottom of the pie shell. Mix the remaining ingredients and pour over pecans. The pecans will rise to the surface of the pie.

2. Bake at 375F for 40-45 minutes until the filling has set. About 20 minutes into the cooking you may want to use a pie crust protector, or cover the edges of the pie crush with aluminum foil to prevent the pie crust edges from burning.

3. Remove from oven and let cool completely. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Clara Gorsching (1926-1929)

Vol 13, Iss 30 Oklahoma - In the OkieLegacy, Vol. 7, Iss. 30, dated 7/30/2005, Deanna Griffin (Gorsching) had an Inquiry concerning Clara Gorsching. It has been about six years since then and I do not know the email of Deanna today, but maybe someone out there reading this might be able to help these Gorsching descendants. If you do not want your email address posted for everyone to view, I would like to help you make the connection. If Deanna, Richard and Ciera would like to exchange emails, you could go through my email address (Linda - Email: and I could hook each of you up together.

Deanna said, "Clara Gorsching was my Dad's sister. Her parents were Peter J. Gorsching (1890 - 11/22/1962) and Mattie Gorsching (Kiehn) (1893 - 3/19/1970). My Dad (Wesley Gorsching) has passed away but my mom said Clara Jane died of pneumonia. My Dad still has four sisters living. He had one other sister (besides Clara) and a brother that has passed away. My mother didn't know anything about the grave marker, but I can see if I can get in touch with any of the sisters to see if they know anything. You can e-mail me with any questions and If I find out any more information I will write back. -- Deanna Griffin (Gorsching)"

OkieLegacy Feature #3091 & #496 -- Ciera says, "I guess Clara Jan would be my great-great aunt. My great grandmother was born Ollie Gorsching. Her Daughter, Sharon Lea Nusz is my paternal grandmother. My great grandmother is Ollie Gorsching. I was mistaken before when I said she lives in OK (Oklahoma). She actually lives in AZ (Arizona) and reached the age of 90 a few years ago. I am unsure how we could exchange email addresses with out putting them out there for the the "whole world" (as Richard puts it) to see, but thank you for your response!" View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

NW Okie's Ramblings & Rumblings

Vol 12, Iss 40 Alva, Oklahoma - Finally! I got to catch a glimpse of my 13 year "old grey mare" and her 2010 bay filly that you are viewing in the photo on the left.

You remember me speaking of Maggie and her 2010 filly a few issues back (or was that last week?). Maggie, 2005 Dun mare, is one of the several colts/fillys out of my 13 year mare, Cindy.

AND . . . Of course, my favorite 2003 Palomino, Nugget (a.k.a. Docs Lynx Son, Trigger). The photo in the link shows Nugget at a younger age (ca. three years) in the process of being broken to ride, saddled and tied to a hitching post.

Nugget has NOT been ridden for awhile, but he is a BIG sweetheart that loves attention showered on him. He picks us out in the crowd and makes his way over for some rubbin', lovin' around his head, ears, nose and neck.

I have two registered brands in Colorado and Oklahoma, that go on the left hind hip. One is shown as a "circle" with a "horizontal bar" across the top, as seen in the certificate on my Essemar quarterhorses site.

The other brand is the one I am using on Nugget, Maggie and Doquoti -- a backwards "L" and using the vertical part of the "L" with sideways "V" (to represent "K") and the "W" for "wagner." The certificate on screen may be out of date, but it has been renewed every five years or so. I just have not gotten around to rescanning the renewed certificates for both . . . yet!

Kathryn Walters Racette posted a message on my Facebook wall concerning her friends inquiry of a Halloween spook, which went by the name of Eugene, and surfaced in the old two-story, Longfellow school building, in Alva, Woods county, Oklahoma. There were reported sounds that seemed to always come from the basement of the school.

Kathyrn and I have never heard or remembering, hearing of this story. A friend of Kathyrn and a friend of hers, who did go to Longfellow school, does remember Eugene, the Halloween spook.

Is there any Northwest Oklahomans and Longfellow school alumni out there that remembers the story and sounds of a Halloween spook named Eugene? View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Claud Baird

Vol 5, Iss 12 Patriotic and Other Poems 1917 - Alva, Oklahoma

Patriotic & Other Poems - 1917

That is "McGill Bros." handwritten, upside-down on the cover of the little booklet. It came to me through my Grandmother's treasure trunk of Okie Legacies. -- LKMcGill-Wagner View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Looking Back ... To 1891 - Clark Pioneers

Vol 11, Iss 17 January 3, 1891 Clark Pioneers In Oklahoma Territory -- The following story is a recollection of the Pioneers, the Clark's that came to Kansas, around Kiowa, and made the run into Oklahoma Territory, November 16, 1893. The Clark's mentioned below are ancestors of J. L. "Bud" Clark of Alva, Oklahoma.

Bud gave us permission to share some of his family stories to show what times were like back in the Territorial days before the Run of 1893 and afterwards as Bud's Uncle tells his story.Bud's father was the Lawrence mentioned as the brother of William "Bill" who is telling the story.

"Times were very close at this time and father found it difficult to feed and clothe the family on the meager wages he received. The Section work paid $1.00 per day. The children were too small to be of much help financially. I remember my sister Ledona got a job with a man and his wife and daughter at $1.00 per week. Which seemed to be about the prevailing wage at that time. We had a couple of milk cows which helped out giving milk for our mush and apple dumplings. One or the other of these was usually on our menu every day. During the summer months we grew vegetable and disposed of the surplus to our neighbors in town.

"Lawrence and I took the milk cows out from town and herded them all day. We received about $1.00 per head a month. That made us enough money that we could buy our clothes and a little left over. We usually pastured the cows in the Cherokee Strip before it was opened for settlement on September 16, 1893. The Strip was one mile South of Kiowa. Shortly before the opening of the strip for settlement the soldiers came and ordered us to keep our cows out of the strip. This was followed within a few days by a bunch of Indians.

"The run is something that will never be forgotten by me. The Run was to be started at 12 Noon on September 16 (1893), by the firing of a gun to start the men and women on their race for a home in the strip. A few minutes before the Run was to start someone fired a gun by mistake or on purpose and the Run was on. The people were along the line for miles in every conceivable conveyance that could be thought of. Horseback (some with race horses), buggies, wagons and carts and some few just walked across the line and staked a claim.

"My father, John A. Clark and I were on our horses and ready to go at the crack of the gun. We started just west of the Santa Fe railroad on the line one mile South of Kiowa.

"The Santa Fe train was also on the line with several coach loads of people that were to get off the train as it proceeded slowly along the railway to Alva, Oklahoma, the county seat of Woods county. The race to Alva was for town lots which some of the people wanted instead of a farm.

"My father John A. Clark staked a claim about 4 or 5 miles southwest of Kiowa. I rode back to Kiowa to have the folks bring the wagon with some bedding and grub so we could stay there for awhile. A few days afterwards father saw another stake not too far from where he had stuck his stake and he was afraid it was on the same claim he had staked. Rather than face a contest he gave it up and he and uncle Albert Williams went down by Alva. He filed on a claim about 4-1/2 miles Northeast of Alva, which was to be our home from then on.

"In the Fall of 1893, father came down from Kiowa and dug a hole in a bank on the farm and covered it with sod. That was to be the place Lawrence and I were to spend the winter with the cattle father had accumulated. Being some milk cows among the cattle we were to winter, Lawrence and I had milk. Father and mother got us some meal and short and a grear__(???) which started us through the winter.

"We had to watch out for rattle snakes getting into our dugout as they were very numerous at that time. One bit our dog that winter. Prairie chickens were plentiful and we thought that we could take our old zulu out once in awhile and kill one to provide us with some meat. After killing and cooking one we found out it was no good. In the new country there was no grain to put any fat on the birds.

"In the fall of 1893, hardly any homesteaders had come down to start work on their claims. It was about two miles to the nearest neighbor Lawrence and I had that first winter.

"In the Spring of 1894 there were plenty coming in as they had to establish residence within six months after they filed on their claims. Father came down in the Spring of 1894 bringing the horses and farm tools so that he could break sod to get out some spring crops and garden. He built another half dugout and covered it with lumber preparing to bring the family down from Kiowa.

"One time when he came back from Kiowa the latter part of April 1894 he informed Lawrence and I that we had a little sister who was born on April 7, 1894 and that they had named her Susanna Andrew Clark for her father and mother. Lawrence and I were surprised and wanted to go up to see the baby as soon as we could.

"Father also informed me that he and uncle Albert had talked to the Missouri Pacific Agent and he wanted a messenger boy which paid $10.00 per month and they had recommended me for the job. I went up and took the job which was the beginning of my railroad career.

"Mother and the younger children came down to their new home. Ledona and I rented a small house in Kiowa and lived there for a short time while I worked. Tom Wilkinson was seeing Ledona quite often then. Dona was around Kiowa for some little time and worked for different families and was well liked by all of them. Father had been working out in the country for some people and the weather was cold and wet. He contracted a cold which went to his throat and lungs and he passed away on April 15, 1897, the first of the family to pass to their reward.

"Mother and the smaller children remained on the home place and managed it with the aid of hired help. Lawrence had a job on a ranch. Dona continued to work in Kiowa after fathers death for a few months. On September 28, 1897 she was united in marriage to Thomas J. Wilkinson. They moved to a farm owned by Tom, 5-1/2 miles northeast of Alva. Their first house was a "soddy" as the natives who had taken claims in the Cherokee Strip called them.

"They were built of sod and covered with sod. In most cases they made a very desirable house to live in until the settlers could do better. I would say that 75 per cent or more of the settlers taking claims in the strip either had dug outs or sod houses. Many of the sod houses were plastered and fixed up inside so you could hardly tell them from a house built of lumber.

"The newly weds were a very happy couple on their 160 acre farm. Dona having worked so much for other families was a very satisfactory cook. She was rejoiced to get a home of her own that she could manage and raise her children.

"On August 13, 1898 they were blessed with their first child which they named Thelma Octa May. Dona spent quite a little time with her mother during the early age of Thelma as her mother was sickly. They only lived 1/2 mile apart. On April 2, 1900 another child was born who was named Martha Victoria, for her two grandmothers. I thought that she looked like a little doll. Mother went to a sanitarium at Kansas City, Mo. to be treated for her illness. She was only there a short time until I received a telegram from Ledona asking me to go to Kansas City and bring mother to Sister Marg's at Hutchinson. This was in June 1900. Mother passed away on July 31, 1900. She was returned to Capron, Oklahoma for burial beside her husband John A. Clark.

"Sister Mary in Nursing mother had contracted the same illness that mother had. On June 14, 1901 she passed to her reward at Hutchinson, Kansas. She was returned to Capron, Oklahoma for burial beside her father and mother.

"Mary left a son, Alva Matteson, who was about 9 months old at the time of his mothers death. In 1903 Tom and Dona sold their farm to the Wagners and purchased 160 acres of land from Trent Jones 2-1/2 miles South of Capron, Oklahoma. Dona always expressed a desire for her children to have a good education. So as soon as they were old enough she started them to school at Centerview. A school about one mile south from their home. One of the teachers at Centerview was Laura French who taught Thelma in her early school years. Another was Grace McKitrick.

"Tom and Dona spent about six years of happy life on this farm. Tom was raising wheat and in the fall he would run a threshing macine. Dona was raising fruit and vegetable and disposing of the surplus to her neighbors around Capron and Alva, hitching her old horse, "Bally," to the the buggy to deliver her produce.

"The children were going to school and raising cain. They were blessed with some extra good neighbors. Joe and Anna Fash, Fred and Edna Fash, Bert Schroth and wife and Tom Johnson and wife and others. The Year 1909, they sold their farm to Thomas Fennesy. Tom and Dona had an auction sale of their personal belongings. Colonel Bill Campbell was the auctioneer.

After the sale of their personal belongings they began to get ready to make their trip to Oregon where they had thoughts of making their future home."
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John Glen Smith Obit - 1926-2009

Vol 11, Iss 4 Last weekend our Uncle John Smith died, January 19, 2009. His obituary can be viewed at this link: Redinger Funeral Home - John Smith Obit. I do have a phone number where you can contact the oldest daughter of John & Geneva (Paris) Smith: Jeanette (Smith) Engle phone number: 405-352-4083.

IF ... you missed the memorial service January 24, 2009 in Seiling and burial in Orion, Oklahoma, you can sign the online guestbook. It allows you to send private condolences to the family. Type your name, address and message; click the SUBMIT button at the bottom of the obituary. Your message will be sent to the family via their secured guestbook. Only family members will have access to viewing your message.

Did you know the Paris family of Chester, Oklahoma? Are they related to you? Share your memories of Uncle John and Chester (Cottonwood Corners) with the OkieLegacy eZine!

Memorial Video of John Glen Smith -- Here is John Glen Smith's Obit below:

JOHN GLEN SMITH, son of Earl and Effie (Maxwell) Smith, was born May 10, 1926 at Freedom, Oklahoma. He departed this life on Monday, January 19, 2009 at the Oklahoma Veterans Center in Clinton. He was 82 years of age.

John was two years of age when he was taken to an orphanage in Helena following tragedy with his parents. Soon after entering the orphanage, Lawrence and Cora Kragh brought him to their home in Chester where he began his school years at Gardenvale School.

At the age of eleven years, John went to live with Fred and Esther Strecker in Chester. He attended Seiling High School until the age of seventeen when he entered the United States Navy and served in the "Asiatic-Pacific Campaign" and the "Philippine Liberation Campaign" during World War II. He was honorably discharged April 20, 1946 at which time he returned to his home in Chester.

He was united in marriage to Geneva Paris August 2, 1947 at Alva. They made their home at Chester where they raised their three children: Jeanette Kay, Ronald Scott and Barbara Gayle.

John and Geneva owned and operated John Smith Mobil Service Station nineteen years. John was also a self employed welder and operated Johns Welding for several years.

He was a life member of the Veterans of Foreign War, a member of the American Legion and a 32nd degree Masonic Lodge member. He enjoyed hunting, bowling and playing cards. He attended the Elm Grove Community Church.

He is survived by two daughters: Jeanette Engle of Minco and Barbara Walton of Fairview; one son: Ron Smith and wife Karen of Chickasha; seven grandchildren and one great grandchild; one foster sister: Vickie Jones and husband Ron of Yukon, besides many other relatives and friends. He was preceded in death by his biological parents, both sets of foster parents and his foster brother, Karl Kragh.

The funeral service will be held at 1:30 p.m. Saturday, January 24, 2009 at the Elm Grove Community Church with Pastor Orville White, officiating. Interment will follow in the Orion Cemetery with military honors provided by the United States Navy. Services are under the direction of the Redinger Funeral Home in Seiling.

Linda McGill Wagner
PO Box 619, Bayfield, CO 81122 -- or --
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An Okielegacy Centennial Moment

Vol 9, Iss 26 This is an old WWI photograph that Roy Kendrick shared with us. It is the Truck Company #6, 110 Motor Supply Train, 35th Division, at Camp Doniphan, in Fort Sill, Oklahoma, taken October 26, 1917.

It is not very often that you can view such an old photo with the last name (in ink) of everyone in the picture. Incidentally, I am told by Roy that the man kneeling at the far right is probably Fred Madden of Perry, Oklahoma.

This is a list of names in the photograph. Beginning with those standing (left to right): Elliot, Tays, Hanke, Hudson, Casey, Revery, M.Castle, Worland, Weihl, McCoy, Tooey, Neville, Brown, McKinney, O.Castle, Jackson, Jager, Drummond, Wiley, Schmitt, Sohaff, Lee, Madinger, Steidel, Beihl, Allan, Muster, Kaucher, Farris, Harmon, Starmer, Hinde.

Those kneeling (left to right): Marcell, Hopkins, Knudson, Hedges, Sherwood, fisher, Vinburg, Lt. M.P.Habecker, Ogden, Herndon, Banes, Bova, Walters, Bower, Hemenover, Madden.

Here is another old photo of WWI soldiers in training at Auxiliary Remount Depot, No. 333 and Troops in training at that Depot. Major Stanley Koch, Comdg, Camp Joseph E. Johnston, in Florida. I couldn't read the writing that great to tell if that was Jose or could it have been Camp Joseph E. Johnston? Maybe someone with better (20-20) eyes could get a better read.

The photo was taken by S. Silverstein Photos., 320 Park Ave., W. Savan, GA.

If any of these names, photos ring a bell, jog old memories cells, we would love to hear from you. You may leave your "comments" below this issue item -- OR ... send your WWI, 1917, Ft. Sill soldier & Auxillary Remount Depot, No. 333 memories to Linda - Email: Thanks for sharing your legacy and memories!
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Warwick, Woods & M Questions

Vol 8, Iss 34 One reader asked us, "Where did you get the name Warwick from? Any relation to the Warwick's of Pocahontas County, West Virginia?"

As to our website name, Warwick West Web publishing, it came about from our father's maternal side of the family (WARWICK's of Pocahontas County, WV). We named our "Warwick West Web Publishing" in honor of our Warwick side of the family. Likewise, our ParisTimes website is named in honor of our Paris side and our mother's paternal side of the family. Hope this answers any questions that some of you are asking.

John Robert Warwick was a teacher in the Coldwater, Kansas area before he and his brother made the Run of '93 into Oklahoma Territory. J. R. was also a banker with the Hopeton bank during the 1930's and the dustbowl days, acquiring land out around the Fairvalley, Freedom and Waynoka area. J. R. & Signora Belle (Guinn) Warwick did have a homestead of 3/4 of land a few miles south of Alva on hwy 281 around Hopeton, Oklahoma along the Eagle Chief Creek, but that was traded for another piece of flatter cropland a couple of miles north of Hopeton. J. R. & Signora Belle had three children: Constance Estelle, Robert Lee and Wilbur (died at young age).

Another reader asked us when did they start calling "M" county "Woods" county. We went searching in our Pioneer Footprints Across Woods County history book and found the following written by our sister-in-law, Joan (Wagner) Hodgden, on page 3, ".....At the first general election held November 6, 1894, the three major parties were asked to place suggested names for the county on the ballot. The republicans proposed FLYNN, for Dennis Flynn. The Democrats like BANNER, for a "banner county," a popular booster term of the era. The Populists proposed WOOD, in honor of an important Kansas Populist. The Populists won, but through a clerical error the name was registered as WOODS,...."

So... perhaps the answer to that question is as early as November 1894 it was known as "M" & "Woods" county. Anyone else out there have any knowledge on the "Woods" & "M" county topic?

We have heard from a few of you that think the new lay out is great! Thanks for your feedback, input and encouragements! They mean a lot to us. Thanks again for taking the time to give us your feedback. We really appreciate it very much!

Our Louisiana techie says, "The best feature at the OkieLegacy eZine must be the ability for you as visitors to have a little bit more control to create communities by City and State or one of the surnames in your family. All you have to do is register and logon. I added a count of messages to let you know how many people register with the same surnames and locations. Please register using the two-letter state code. AND... What other utility would you like to suggest for this site?"
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April Blizzard of the 1930's...

Vol 6, Iss 10 Another reader would like some information concerning a blizzard snow storm that hit Northwest Woods County (Oklahoma) sometime in April, in the 1930's. Has your ancestors ever spoken, written in a journal about a big snow storm in Woods county in the 1930's around March or April? We went back to look at some notes Grandpa Bill McGill kept in his journal during the 1930's and his notes mentions something around, "27 & 29 March 1931 -- That night there was snow in and around Alva, Oklahoma. Altogether there was 12 inches of snow that year."

Could this be the 1930's, April snow that the reader speaks about? If you go to Grandpa's 1930's Notes, you can read more of his journal he kept in the '30s. If any of this jogs some memories, drop us a note and share it with us. Do you remember the "Black Blizzard" of the Dust Bowl Days around 1930's? Do you have some ancestral journals of Okie Legacies that you would like to share with us? Send us a copy by snail-mail (Linda Wagner, P.O. Box 18998, OKC, OK 73154) or email ( Thanks!

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Shawnee Chief Cornstalk...

Vol 6, Iss 8 Another reader sent us some information he found online concerning the Shawnee Chief Cornstalk and the Battle around Point Pleasant and Lord Dunmores battle in Virginia in the late 18th century. The reason that tidbit of information is interesting to this writer is because one of my Warwick ancestors (Jacob Warwick the 2nd) was a captain in that battle. Jacob, II and John Warwick were two of the sons of Lt. Wm Jacob Warwick. I believe I figured that Jacob, II was my 5th-Great-Uncle and John was my 5th-Great-Grandpa. My 4th-Great-Grandpa (Wm. Warwick) married Nancy Agnes Craig and they settled in Greenbriar county above Sinking Creek near the Richlands. As the lineage progresses back to this writer it is as follows... Robert Craig Warwick & Esther Hull (3rd-Great-Grandparents)- Wm. Fechtig Warwick & Phebea Anthea Pray (2nd-Great-Grandparents) - John Robert Warwick & Signora Belle Guinn (Great-Grandparents) - Constance Estella Warwick & Wm. J. McGill (Grandparents) - Gene McGill & Vada Paris (Parents) - Linda McGill & David Wagner - Michael & Robert Wagner (sons). You can find out more about the Warwick's, Point Pleasant Battle starting over at Warwick/.

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NWOSU's Green Space Dedication (9/9/2008)

Vol 10, Iss 37 Our oldest son, Michael E. Wagner, took some recent video of Northwestern Oklahoma State University (NWOSU) dedication, September 9, 2008, in Alva, Oklahoma, of the NEW Green Space on the northwest corner of NWOSU's campus, where the old women's dorm, Oklahoma Hall, once stood.

We have put some of those videos up on our OkieLegacy YouTube site for your viewing pleasure. There is a video of Mayor Arden Chaffee speaking before an assembled crowd of northwest Oklahomans, alumni and students; a poem reading written by a NWOSU English Professor and read by Kathy Earnst; and President of NWOSU, Dr. Janet Cunningham, speaking to the crowd.

We are in the process of uploading Dr. Cunningham's speech in 3 videos (part I - Welcome, part II - History, part III - Closing). We have part III uploaded and will be getting part I & part II up later.

Thanks goes out to Michael E. Wagner for taking the NWOSU Green Space Dedication video. Michael has moved back to Alva from Shreveport, Louisiana to continue his education (Master) at NWOSU. If you see Michael on campus, stop and get acquainted with this intelligent, friendly young man. AND... say, "Hello and Thanks for some great video coverage of NWOSU's dedication."

Here are a few of the links to NWOSU's Green Space Dedication:
* Mayor Chaffee Speaks
* Green Space Poem
* Part I - Dr. Janet Cunningham - Welcome
* Part II - Dr. Janet Cunningham - History
* Part III - Dr. Janet Cunningham - Closing
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Butch Cassidy Gave Harry Tracy His 1st Lessons In Crime (1902)

Vol 17, Iss 38 llinois - It was in The Inter Ocean, newspaper out of Chicago, Illinois, dated 10 August 1902, Sunday, page 35, that we found this research on "Butch Cassidy, who gave (Harry) Tracy his first lessons in crime."

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Butch Cassidy, one of the most notorious bandits in the West, is suspected of having planned the C. B. & Q. train robbery, near Marcus, Illinois, just a week before. It was known that Pinkerton detectives were working on this theory, although they had no hope of apprehending Cassidy. They were endeavoring to procure a clue to who carried out the plans of their leader.

It was Butch Cassidy who gave Harry Tracy his first schooling in crime. Tracy had been an ordinary crook in Boston and Cincinnati when he went to Colorado in 1896. There he became acquainted with Cassidy and other bandits, who were engaged in stealing cattle. Afterward they became train robbers.

Their rendezvous was in a weird spot in Wyoming, which was known as the "Hole in the Wall." Toward this spot Tracy was undoubtedly making his way when he was surrounded by a posse the Wednesday before last. Had he reached it he would have received a welcome from his tutor in crime. But he failed, and his death restored to Cassidy the title of "king of bandits," which had been wrested from him by his desperate pupil.

Although Tracy had a record of more murders than Butch Cassidy, he was not as desperate a man. Cassidy had not killed wantonly, but he had never hesitated to shoot when there was a point to be gained. Train robbery was his specialty, and his methods at this were exemplified in the Great Northern robbery near Wagner, Montana, July 2, 1901.

At 2:30 o'clock on the afternoon on the day of the Great Northern episode, a man boarded the express train at Malta, Montana, riding the "blind baggage." Shortly before reaching Malta he crawled over the tender, covered the engineer and fireman with a revolver, and forced them to stop the train near a bridge, from under which emerged three other men. Two held the passengers at bay while the other two blew open the safe in the express car with dynamite. They secured $83,000, including $40,000 in new unsigned bank notes, which were being shipped to a couple of Helena, Montana banks. The robbers then mounted horses, which were standing near, and rode away. Cassidy was known to have been the leader in this robbery and he or other members of his gang have participated in train and bank robberies from Indiana to Nevada, and from the Canadian border to Mexico. From their places of refuge in the "Hole in the Wall," "Robbers' Roost," and other localities they had set forth to rob banks in South Dakota, to smuggle goods from Mexico, or to hold up trains in Illinois or Montana. When the officers start in pursuit, they disappeared and were next heard from while committing a crime in some other part of the country. The active and associate members of the gang number over a hundred, but the most desperate deeds were usually under the leadership of Butch Cassidy, whose real name was George Parker, who was the son of a respectable and devout Mormon farmer, and who was sometimes known as George Cassidy or George Ingerfield. Among those who were associated with him in the Great Northern robbery and who may have been in the Burlington holdup of the week before were: Harry Longbaugh, alias "Kid" Longbaugh alias Harry Alouzo, Cassidy's principal lieutenant, and O. C. Hanks, also known as Camilla Hanks.

One of the gang that participated in the Great Northern robbery was in the penitentiary a week later, and another was dead. "Ben" Kilpatrick was surprised and captured with a woman in St. Louis November 5, 1901. He was then serving a term in prison. Harvey Logan was caught after a battle with officers near Jefferson City, Tennessee, 15 December 1901. Next to Cassidy he was considered the most dangerous of the gang. He took part in a number of train robberies, killed Pike Sandusky at Sandusky, Montana on Christmas Day, 1894, committed other murders, and was with Butch Cassidy and other outlaws in the battles which resulted in the killing of Sheriff Hazen of Converse County, Wyoming, June 2, 1899, and of the sheriff of Grand county, Utah, in May, 1900. His own death had followed these murders.

It was not at all unlikely that members of this gang held up the Denver & Rio Grande train at Salida, Colorado, a few days before. A majority of the daring train robberies which had been committed in recent years could be traced to some member of the crowd. Tracy was only a lay member of the "Robbers' Roost" gang, which contained more than one man as desperate as he. A steady nerve, unerring aim, loyalty, and recklessness of consequences were essentials to membership.

For years this band, with Butch Cassidy at its head, had roamed over the entire Western country, rustling cattle, robbing banks and express trains, occasionally, when "hard up," washing gold from rich deposits on the Uintah Indian reservation in Utah, and killing men who betrayed them and the members of posses sent out to arrest them.

Now and then some member of the gang had been killed or caught napping and taken into custody, but his place had been filled by a recruit and the outlaw band had gone blithely on in its career of plunder and slaughter, regardless of the numbers rewards, amounting to many thousands of dollars, offered for members, dead or alive.

Cassidy's Parents Mormons

George Parker, who was almost universally spoken of as Butch cased, was born in Utah thirty-seven years before (1875). His father was a sedate Mormon farmer, and members of his family were still living respectable lives in Utah.

When the present leader of the "Robbers' Roosters" was a flaxen-haired, inoffensive youth he went to work as a cowboy for a neighboring ranchman. Some cattle were stolen, and young Parker was accused of having some connection with the crime. His innocence was afterward proved, but too late. He escaped from custody. Angered at he unjust accusation, he plunged into a long career of crime. He rustled, or stole cattle. He held up stages. He joined the desperate characters who had fled for safety to the mountains of the West, going deeper and deeper into crime.

Nevertheless, he from time to time paid stealthy visits to his family and sent money to his mother and sisters. Cassidy was a quiet, reserved man, of medium height and built like an athlete. He had light hair and mustache and steady blue eyes. Unlike Tracy, the outlaw king was no blusterer. He would never stop at the farmhouses to relate bold deeds and boast of his slaughter. Although not Loquacious he could be genial on occasion, as the experience a few months before this article came of a Salt Lake wholesale merchant showed.

This man, with a companion, was on a hunting expedition in eastern Utah. One morning they met three men, who also looked like hunters, and promptly hailed the newcomers. The latter came up, although it was observed that they used unusual caution and watched closely for any hostile movement. The leader of the party of three opened conversation with the Salt Lakers, found out their purpose in visiting that region, and volunteered to show them where they could find some deer. All that day the five were together. The Salt Lakers found the blond leader an unusually pleasant and accommodating personage. He took them to a place in the hills where they shot a couple of deer, and then led them back and started them on the road to a ranch where they could put up for the night.

"I can't tell you how much we appreciate your courtesy," said the Salt Lake businessman as they shook hands in parting. "If you ever come to Salt Lake I should be glad to entertain you there. But you haven't told me your name. I should be glad to know it, as I shall remember you."

"Thank you," said the blond man. "My name's Parker. If I come to Salt Lake I'll look you up."

Then he smiled and went away.

That evening at the ranch house the Salt Laker related his experience and described the guide who gave the name of Parker.

"Why, that's Butch Cassidy," said the ranchman. Since Harvey Logan, better known as "Kid" Currie, was removed from active membership in the band Harry Longbaugh appeared to have been Cassidy's righthand man. Longbaugh started on desperate crimes before Cassidy, but the latter seemed to possess more of the qualities of leadership, and Longbaugh had allowed him to command. In direct contrast to the light haired, blue eyed king of the outlaws, Longbaugh had a swarthy complexion and coal black hair and mustache. He was between 35 and 40 years of age, an American by birth, and a cowboy before he became a professional criminal.

If Harry Tracy could have gone just a little farther, he would have reached the haunts of "the Robber's Roosters," and would have had probably safety. Could have crossed into Idaho he would probably have met with little opposition in traversing the unsettled central portion of the state, and could have lived on game and wild fruits. It would have been a comparatively easy matter then to get over tot he "Hole in the Wall" in Wyoming, the stronghold of the outlaws for which he headed, and the locality which was the scene of many of his early crimes. This robber fortress is high in the mountains of western Wyoming. It is considerably over 100 miles north of the Union Pacific, which was the nearest railroad, and was in the Utah-Wymoning oil belt, which had recently become the scene of extensive operations. Although farmers and stockmen were coming into this region in large numbers it was still sparsely settled, and the few who had taken up their abode there were kept under such subjection by the outlaws that they dare give scant information to the officers.

"Hole in the Wall" Impregnable

The only approach to the "Hole in the Wall" was a grove. This grew narrower and narrower as one ascends until it finally becomes a slit barely wide enough for a man to squeeze through. On both sides rise towering walls, so steep that nothing except a fly could stick to them. It was this narrow defile that gave the place its name. At the head of the gorge was an open space, surrounded by steep walls. These could be sacked in only one place, where a narrow path winds up the mountain side to a broad place, which was the location of the robbers' den. From this vantage point one man could conceal himself behind a rock commanding the narrow defile below, and, with a rifle, pick off his pursuers as they emerge, one by one, into the open space. Even should a posse get through into the opening without the loss of more than a few of their number, they would be almost sure to perish before they could complete the winding ascent in the face of a fire for men noted for their marksmanship. More than one sheriff had headed a posse in a desperate effort to dislodge a few outlaws from this impregnable eyrie, but all had been forced to give up after severe loss of life.

When members of Butch Cassidy's gang had held up a Union Pacific train or robbed a bank or committed some other crime in this part of the country, they usually made for the "Hole in the Wall." If they once reached that place the pursuit was usually abandoned. They keep provisions there sufficient to last indefinitely, and they were kept supplied by confederates, so that there was no chance to starve them out, and a direct onslaught would result only in disaster tot he attacking party.

The outlaws' principal rendezvous farther south was even more famous, for it had given to the gang its name. This place was "Robber's Roost," in Emery county, Utah. This resort was south of the Rio Grande Western railroad, Price, Utah, being the nearest station of consequence. "Robber's Roost" was similar to the "Hole in the Wall" in its in accessibility. It was more extensive and more luxurious, however. The Utah den was reached by a long trip up a dry "wash," or draw. This lead into a narrow canyon. At a certain place in the canyon, recognizable only by those familiar with he place, the path turned and followed a little mountain stream which came in at the side. The path entered a narrow gorge, followed a shelf along the side of the mountain,a nd finally winds around to another shelf from which cave ran into the mountain. There was room enough in this cabe for 200 men.

Marvelous stories were told of the way the "Roost" was fitted up. It was said that all manner of luxuries were provided for the comfort of the denizens, for they were in closer touch with civilization than might be supposed. Comfortable beds, rugs, lounges, handsome furniture, and pictures were said to be among the contents of the cave, while cozy cabins nestle in the rocks near the cave, adding to the accommodations.

Farther south, near the Arizona border, was "Blue John's Cave," This was a place of refuge on the line of escape. The entrance was so concealed by rocks that nobody not in the secret could find it. "Blue John's Cave" was really amine. It took its name from the robber who made his headquarters there, waiting with fresh ponies, food and ammunition to speed any fleeing member of the gang on his way north or south. While he had been waiting there he had been busy running a tunnel into the mountain on a vein of gold bearing quartz which he discovered. The quartz was so rich that it could be readily made to yield up gold by crushing and washing, and "Blue John" spend most of his time mining and treating the ore in a primitive way. The proceeds were sent to some member of the gang in civilization to be disposed of.

The "Robber's Roosters," while "in retreat," kept in touch with the outside world through many channels. In the first place, the settlers in the region were anxious to be on good terms with he outlaws, for that meant immunity from depredations and comparative safety. The results of an opposite course were strikingly shown a few months before this. Some residents of Brown's park, Colorado, near the region where President Roosevelt went on his latest Western hunting trip, gave information to the authorities regarding some members of the gang. Not long afterward a series of murders came to light. Whole families were slain in their homes. The families visited were those which had given information. Thus did the "Robber's Roosters" wreak their revenge. For this reason many personally honest ranchmen would help the outlaws through motives of fear.

Cassidy and his cohorts did not have to depend to any great extent for their information on men outside the gang. There were too many who were loyal because of their share in the plunder. Apparently inoffensive ranchmen were really members of the gang whole where they do so as to supply horses, arms, ammunition, food, and information when needed. Sometimes the keeper of a stage station was there to scent possible booty. The owner of more than one store was on the lookout for "tips." Even in cities like Salt Lake and Denver there were agents to work off stolen money and goods. It was not long after a big robbery where large bills were stolen before these same bills were noticed coming into Salt Lake and Denver banks. It was usually impossible to trace them. Occasionally, it was learned that they came from some store or saloon in Green River, Wyoming; Price or Vernal, Utah; Rifle or Grand Junction, Colorado, or some other town occasionally visited quietly by outlaws.

The members of the band included criminals of every description. A large proportion were ex-convicts. Burglars, holdup men, and murderers formed a majority of the active membership. The agents in the towns were similar to the ordinary "fences" found in Chicago and Other cities. Many had prices on their heads. The stories of the individuals would fill a book. Some were plain tales of sordid crime. Some were tinged with romance. The strange story of "Bald Ed" was a case in point. A man in eastern Utah who knew him well when he was a respected citizen vouched for the story, although he would not tell the man's real name, nor his society name. Years before "Bald Ed" held a responsible position in a town in the middle West. He disappeared suddenly, and it was found that he had embezzled a large sum of money. Word came later that he was dead. His wife died of a broken heart, leaving two little girls.

The children were sent to an orphan asylum. Three or four years later, a quiet, well-dressed man inquired at the asylum for the girls. He said he was their uncle. The children were turned over thorium and he put them in a convent. Since then the girls had graduated from one of the best seminaries in the country,a nd they were then in college. They did not know of the blood over their father's career. They think he died while in the West on business. Once a year they received a visit from their "uncle," this same quiet, refined man, who "is in business in the West." This man was none other than "Bald Ed," a leading spirit in the "Robber's Roost" gang of train robbers and murderers.
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History of Baseball

Vol 13, Iss 13 America - My brother-in-law, Lou Wagner, commented on Feature #5963 of last week's OkieLegacy Ezine, "Linda, since I was born in Detroit, I always had an interest in the Tigers and Ty Cobb. If asked how to understand life, I would answer 'Read the history of baseball.'"

So I went searching through Google Books in the search of the History of Baseball. I have not had time to read through all the books that I have found, but will get back to you on that as to what I discover in my reading.

Meanwhile, does anyone have any more information to help enlighten us about the History of Baseball?

What was the Old Professional National Association of the early 1870's, and also the National League from 1876 to 1902?

They say that the sport of sports for Americans, alike for men as for boys, is our National game of base ball. It is our National game of base ball which is now the permanently established field game of ball for the American people, and it occupies a position in public estimation which no other sport in vogue equals. Is that so?

some say that it is a noteworthy fact that base ball first taught us Americans the value of physical recreative exercise as an important adjunct to perfect work in cultivating the mind up to its highest point of excellence.

Was base ball considered the introduction as a national pastime that the growth of athletic sports in general in popularity was largely due? Was base ball pointed out to the mercantile community of our large cities that "All work and no play" is the most costly policy they can pursue?

The third year of the new century (1903) introduced us to the eighth decade of base ball history. The first regular base ball club of which we have any reliable record being in 1833. The club in question was the old Olympic Town Ball Club of Philadelphia, which began its first season of ball playing that year.

The game of town ball of that early period was an American modification of the old English game of rounders, known to English use in the 17th century. Town ball was played in Philadelphia by a few enthusiasts as early as 1831. Others of a dozen or more used to gather of an afternoon once a week on a field adjoining the upper part of Market Street, Philadelphia, near where the Episcopal church stood, to play the old game. Others would go over to the Camden fields to enjoy the sport.

I read that an old resident of Camden used to say that the players were laughed at in those days for playing ball, the prejudice against wasting time in that way being very prevalent in the Quaker City of that period.

It is also stated by New Englanders that town ball was played in Connecticut and Massachusetts a decade and more before the Philadelphians adopted it. The Olympic Club of Philadelphia played town ball from 1833 to 1859, when theater phase of base ball, known as the New York game, came into vogue.

The old game of town ball as played during the decade of the 1830's was known in the New England states as the Massachusetts game, in contradistinction to the form of playing base ball afterwards known as the New York game. The new york game coming into vogue in the decade of the 1850's. This latter phase of base ball was Americanized town ball, just as the latter was an American improvement of rounders.

The familiar game of those days known as one-old-cat, was simply the preliminary field exercise with a bat and ball which was engaged in each practice day before the regular base ball games began. It was played as practice before a sufficient number of members of the club had arrived on the ground to play the irregular game.

The basis of the old English game of rounders was the use of a bat and ball in a game which was played on a square infield having four bases besides an extra place for the batsman to stand when batting, and this was also the theory of American town ball. In the American game of the old Knickerbocker club of New York, with its diamond field in place of the square field of town ball, the old rounders rule of throwing base-runners out by hitting them with the ball while running between bases, was in vogue up to the time of the organization of the 1st National Base Ball Association in 1858.

There is one solitary field sport known to Americans that can justly claim to be in every respect an American game, and that is the old Indian game of lacrosse, played by the aborigines long before Columbus discovered America. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Alva POW Camp Artist

Vol 5, Iss 13 Novosibirsk, Russia - "Dear Folks, I'm not sure who will read this, but here goes. My name is Diana Glasgow and all my great-grandparents pioneered in Woods County.

I happen to be teaching this year at Novosibirsk State University, in Novosibirsk, Russia. Being homesick (and it's been a long winter here in Siberia) I sometimes sit and surf the internet. Today I typed in 'Dacoma, Oklahoma' and came up with your website and information about the POW Camp south of Alva.

I was interested because I lived in Legion Heights, a veterans housing addition south of Alva, as a little girl (after WWII) and played with the sight of the old guard tower always in view.

A few years ago I was coming home to visit my mother (Dana Glasgow, daughter of Earl and Gladys, granddaughter of Orville and Matie Belle Glasgow) in Arkansas City, Kansas and was picked up at the Wichita Airport by Lawrence Kinney.

My own father was actually Clenard McArthur Tate of Capron and Alva, but he was killed in combat in WWII just a month before I was born. I have many of his letters home and have visited his battlefield sites with a group of his 'brothers-in-arms' from the 99th Infantry Division.

I had just come back from this European trip and was talking to Lawrence Kinney about it on the drive home. I had known Lawrence since childhood as he was the Allis Chalmers blockman for Alva.

Anyway, Lawrence started telling me about his own experiences in WWII. He fought in the same area as my dad (the Belgian Ardennes) and was taken prisoner early in the Battle of the Bulge. So he was in a Nazi POW camp until the summer of 1945, when he was sent home to Alva, still on active duty.

He was placed as a guard at the Alva POW camp! And now we're getting down to the solution of the mystery.

Lawrence took me home and showed me his own collection of WWII memorabilia, including letters home and ... you guessed it, paintings done by a German POW at the Alva Camp! Only these paintings had a signature on them, and Lawrence had managed to locate the living man, now living in Germany and a renowned artist and sculptor! I don't believe they ever actually met, but they exchanged letters and phone calls.

Their mutual experiences as POW's had created the possibility for a kind of bond. Lawrence had pulled the paintings from a pile of debris that was about to be burned during the cleanup of the POW camp at Alva after it was closed.

I know for sure that Lawrence's widow, Lois, still has some of the paintings, the German artist's name and address in Germany, etc. I think it would be very interesting to contact him, if he is still alive, as he speaks English and could contribute his own stories to your website and talk to the owners of the house who want to create a beer garden. Oh, wonders of the internet." -- Diana Glasgow - Email:

Editor's Note: Diana gave me Lois Kinney's address. If you are truly interested in contacting her concerning the paintings done by German POW at the Alva Camp, please Email me and I will see about forwarding the address to those truly interested. Thanks! -- LK Wagner View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Remember Some of These Places...

Vol 7, Iss 43 We have a few places in Oklahoma that we need your help with. The first one are the two warehouses for the Anthony (Kansas) Wholesale Grocery. Rosalea Hostetler of the Balmer Fund, Inc. wrote us this week inquirying about the Alva & Fairview (Oklahoma) warehouses. We believe the dates for those warehouses may have been between 1910 thru 1950's. If there is anyone out there or knows of someone who might know anything about the Alva and Fairview warehouses, please contact Linda at Thanks.

The second thing we are searching for and need your help on is the old theatre in Okarche, Oklahoma. We would love to find an old photo and whatever history someone might have out there for us. Okarche is that little town that is nestled between Kingfisher and El Reno on US Hwy 81 and split down the main street of Okarche by two counties (Oklahoma & Kingfisher County).

Finally, we have some photos sent in by Nettie King that she recently took around Lookout and Coy, Oklahoma. Some of them are in this newsletter. These and others can also be seen in two of our NW OkieLegacy Photo Albums: NW OkieLegacy Webshots .

Have a Happy and Safe Halloween! AND... Do NOT forget to set your clocks back an hour late tonight (or early Sunday morning). View/Write Comments (count 5)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Butch Cassidy, Thought To Have Been In St. Louis (1901)

Vol 17, Iss 38 St. Louis, MO - It was in The St. Louis Republic, St. Louis, Missouri, dated Thursday, November 7, 1901, that we found this mention of Butch Cassidy on the front page: Stolen Bank Notes Representing $7,000 In Satchel of Bandits Woman Companion."

St. Louis police were fast weaving a web about the suspected Montana Train robber arrested Tuesday night. Admissions from Woman already point to guilt of pair. Complete confession may be secured leading to arrest of others and recovery of more plunder. Butch Cassidy, the third member of the gang, thought to have been in St. Louis.

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In "John Arnold," the prisoner arrested Tuesday night on suspicion of being implicated in the robbery of the Great Northern express at Wagner, Montana, July 3, Chief of Police Kiely and Chief of Detectives Desmond were confident they had Harvey Logan, alias Harry Longuebaugh, alias Harry Alonzo. The prisoner answered exactly the photograph and description of Logan, sent broadcast immediately after the robbery, for whose arrest a reward of $5,000 had ben offered.

Laura Bullion, a companion and possible confederate of Logan, was arrested the morning before this article at the Laclede Hotel, just as she was on the point of taking her departure. She had been living there since the Friday before, when she arrived there with a male companion, said by the police to be Logan, who registered the couple as "J. W. Rose and wife, Vicksburg, Miss." "Mrs. Rose" at first made a show of indignation when arrested, but later consented to accompany the officers tot he Four Courts. Her baggage, consisting of a trunk and a satchel, was also taken there.

Chief of Police Kiely took "MRs. Rose" in hand early that morning for examination, and Chief of Detectives Desmond took Logan into his "sweat box." The two Chiefs spent the entire day and evening endeavoring to elect a confession or, at least, some damaging admissions from the prisoners, but with very unsatisfactory results until alate hour the night before when the woman made admissions, which, the Chief, believes, would materially assist them in rounding up the remaining members of the gang and recovering much of the stolen money.

When "Mrs. Rose's" trunk was searched in the Chief's office, nothing of an incrimination nature was found. It contained masculine and feminine apparel, toilet articles, bric-a-brac and odds-and-ends. A pocket dictionary which she said belonged to Logan, contained something which interested the police. On the inside of the cover was pasted a newspaper clipping containing an account of the capture of Sam Kethcum, an account of the capture of Sam Ketchum, a train robber, in Wyoming on July 19, 1900. Ketchum had a broken arm, shattered by a ball, and died a month later. On the fly leaf, in pencil was the following memorandum: "45,500, 31,000. H. in W: Wyoming," followed by a series of initials. Chief Desmond believed this memorandum referred to the booty obtained in the Great Northern express robbery, and that H. in W. Wyoming" meant that a portion of the spoils was hid in some Wyoming town. Mrs. Rose's satchel contained $7,000 of the stolen banknotes, in denominations of $10 and $20. The notes were unsigned. On her person was found $600 of the same notes, to all of which had been forged the name "J. W. Smith" as president of the bank on which they were issued.

Logan was one of the most uncommunicative prisoners Chief Desmond had ever handled. He was a 6 feet tall, weight 200 pounds, and possessed a powerful frame and the active, alert bearing of an athlete. He was a good looking chap, though dark, sullen face and his wicked eye, when in surly mood, rob his features of much of their attraction. All together, he was a fair type of what was known as a "dangerous man."

Logan persisted in declaring that his name was John Arnold, even when confronted with his photograph, taken from the Bertillon bureau, containing a record of scars and blemishes which tallied with those found on his body. He refused to tell anything of his past history, or to give an account of his whereabouts since last July. When asked where he obtained the $483 found upon him, he said he had won it in a gambling game in a town in Mississippi. Later, when confronted with the unsigned banknotes found in the woman's satchel, he acknowledged they were his, but denied having given them to the woman. He said the satchel found with her belonged to him. He said he had known the woman a couple of months, having picked her up in Hot Springs. One of the most important features which developed in that examination of the prisoners and their recent movements was that fact, which was almost clearly established, that George Parker, alias Butch cased, another of the train robbers, was in the city as late as that Tuesday night,a nd presumably in communication with Logan and the woman. Two of the operatives of a local private detective agency declared that they were confident they saw Butch Cassidy on the downtown streets within less than a week,a nd one of the chief operatives of the Untied States Secret Service declared that he saw Cassidy Tuesday night and shadowed him for more than an hour, in and out of the downtown saloons and cafes.

it was said that Cassidy and Logan wore the same disguise. While making the rounds of the downtown saloons they learned that a stranger had visited many of them, and was spending money freely and changing bills frequently. Within the course of an hour the detective found his man. The suspect tallied accurately with the description given by Barnett as to his clothing and jewelry, but he was a blonde, with light hair and light, short stubby mustache, whereas Barnett's customer had black hair and black mustache. Later, the detective learned that the clothing worn by his suspect was the exact counterpart in cut, texture and quality as that worn by Logan, and both affected the same style of rings, tie pin and watch chain. The story of the capture read like a story book. The capture was one of the most important made in that city in many years and reflects credit on the men immediately engaged in it. To Detective Al Guion must be awarded the greatest meed of praise, since it was largely due to his keenness that the quarry was located and to his coolness, judgment and presence of mind that the capture was a cloudless one. Had it not been for his quick with the members of the police department would, as detective Brady dryly remarked later, "be now buying floral emblems for some of Desomond's sleuths."
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October 12, 1912 - Boston Jumps One On New York

Vol 14, Iss 42 New York - According to The Bemidji Daily Pioneer, Bemidji, MN, dated Saturday, 12 October 1912, tells us that the World Series was being played as "Boston (Red Sox) Jumps One On New York (Giants)," with the superb pitching of Wood pulling out odd game, although New York Giants secured most of the hits.

New York, Oct. 12, 1912 -- The total players share of the receipts for the four World's series games was: $147,571.70. The total attendance back then was 137,004. Total receipts $273,282. commission received $27,308.50. It was to be divided between the clubs $98,381.77.

Brush Stadium, NY, Oct. 12, 1912 -- Joe Wood repeated on Tesreau and the New York Giants and as a result the Red Sox returned to Boston the night before with the jump game once more in their possession and the Giants again one down.

Smoky Wood, with a gray day to help him out, was all there with a margin to spare. Tesreau was good but not enough so to cope with the marvel. Wood's effort was unquestionably a big factor, but no small share of the credit for the win must go to a ball playing centipede by the name of Heinie Wagner.

The count was three to one and but for Wagner's almost superhuman work, the Giant attack would have left a different story to be written of Wood's day's efforts.

Great was the Mackian infield during the 1911 Fall, but it was never within reach of Boston's great quartetts on this day, 11 October 1912.

The Giants hammered Wood for nine hits and but for Wagner and Yerkes would have run the count up to thirteen and driven across at least three more runs and possibly four. Both teams played great ball and Boston won a deserved victory, although the Giants once more outhit the American leaguers. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

NW Oklahoma Sunsets

Vol 13, Iss 15 Eagle Chief Ranch, NW Oklahoma - The following slideshow are snapshots of sunsets in Northwest Oklahoma, as taken by our youngest son, Robert L. Wagner, 7 April 2011, at Eagle Chief Ranch, a few miles West and South of Alva, Woods County, Oklahoma.

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Historical Crystal Park Colorado

Vol 12, Iss 52 Crystal Park, Colorado - Back in July 1909, my grandmother Constance Estella Warwick (before she married my grandpa Wm. J. McGill, march 24, 1910) traveled to Colorado Springs and toured Crystal Park and other sites around that area in Colorado.

Because of the scrapbook Grandma kept and that I scanned and put up on my Oakiepics Webshots, I have heard the following from the Historical committee for the Crystal Park, in Colorado.

Mike Doughty commented, "I am on the Historical Committee in Crystal Park Colorado. I found your photos of your ancestor on a burro ride to Crystal Park very interesting. We would love to get scans of these photos for our archives. Let me know if that is at all possible, please. Thank you."

Mike Doughty ran across our OkieLegacy, Vol. 5, Iss. 12 concerning Grandma's July, 1909 Vacation in Colorado -- Constance Warwick & Friends - On the Road to Helen Hunt's Grave - 27 July 1909Did I forget to mention last week about the 1909 Vacation Photo Album that I have included on Oakie's Webshots? These were photos that my Grandmother Constance (Warwick) McGill put together of her trip to areas around Colorado Springs, Crystal Park, Helen Hunt's Grave and Seven Falls in Colorado back in 1909.

From looking through the photos, things were rugged back then without paved roads -- mules, horse and buggy were used as their mode of travel. I love viewing the fashion of that time. They were still wearing the long, floor-length dresses, skirts. 27 July 1909 - Constance Warwick at Helen Hunt's grave. Helen Hunt was buried on the summit of Mount Jackson, Colorado (a Cheyenne peak named for her, about four miles from Colorado Springs. oakiepics webshots - 1909 - Old Family Vacation Photos - 1909 - Old Family Vacation Photos

Here is another link to our Picasa Album concerning Grandma's 1909 trip to Colorado:

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Looking Back ... To The Future!

Vol 11, Iss 15 Looking back at the OkieLegacy beginnings ten years has has been somewhat interesting to see where we started from and where we are now. The archives shows the 1st Issue we published as a multiple feature format. Before then, it was basically a weekly personal journal entry.

We have come along way in those ten years! From "Oakie's Heart To Heart" (a weekly personal journal entry) to "The OkieLegacy" Tabloid & eZine.

Michael Wagner has been busy coding our NEW formats for the eZine and Tabloid and have them up and running. I do not know what we would do without his expertise! let us know what you think of each.

The OkieLegacy Tabloid is now a three-column newspaper style front page with summaries where visitors can choose to read more or not. The ezine was developed for those that like to print the newsletter and read away from the computer (all content except comments are on the front page). Have you noticed what is in the new navigation bar at the top of the page?

Up in the upper right corner of the Tabloid page is a place to "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" your email address from our "mailing list." Just click on the "Subscribe" or "Unsubscribe" Links and insert your email address.

Below that is a place to enter your email and a password to subscribe and login to our "Communities" and "Families" sections that you see in the menu-links in the black Menu headings at the top. You can click the following headings: Page One, Communities, Families, Recipes, Blogs, Webcam, Classifieds & Crossword, Other Formats to manuever to different parts of the newsletter and other webpages we manage.

Underneath that black, top-menu is a listing of "The OkieLegacy" Volumes from Vol. 6 thru Vol. 11 and our Archives page.

Notice the "Register @ FamilyNet (Group = Surnames, FAmily, Assoc.)" in the box in the third column, top-right of the page? This is a place that you can register your surname in the "Group" field; add your "Name" in the field below; and either enter your "email," "address," or "phone" in the "Contact" field.

Before you hit the submit button, be sure to let us know which item you put in the "Contact" field by clicking either the "email, addr or phone" button below the "Contact" field. If you want to subscribe for the newsletter and are not already subscribed, click the little square box "subscribe to news" next to the "submit" button. Then click "submit."

If you scroll down in the Tabloid pages, on the left you will see an area we have set aside for Business Card Ads that can be submitted by emailing NW Okie ( a copy of your business card to scan and add to our weekly newsletter. So far that service is FREE. The Ad you see now is our Techie's business card for "Michael Wagner."

Interspersed throughout the Tabloid & eZine pages you will see random images that change every time you open the browser page. So ... Have I rambled on making sense of the NEW formats for the eZine and Tabloid newsletter? What do you think of the NEW Formats?
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1941 San Francisco CA - Skyline Room/China Town

Vol 11, Iss 8 I found a couple of pictures that I had of Uncle Bob McGill during WWII and him at Tank training school in Kentucky (I believe). I have uploaded them to my website and put a link to them for you to view

This photo is, I believe, taken while Uncle Bob McGill was on his way to Hawaii with a stop in San Francisco, CA, China Town, Skyline Room 1941. On the backside of picture is handwritten in ink: "The Skyline Room in China Town. The woman is the "bubble" Dancer without her costume; or rather a different costume."

From left to right: 1st on left is ????; 2nd on left is ????; 3rd on left, 2nd Lt. Bob McGill; fourth from left is ????; fifth from left is ????; sixth from left is ????; on the right is ????; and the bubble dancer is sitting on chair in front of the officer on the far right.

If anyone out there recognizes any of the unknown officers in this picture, please contact Linda (NW Okie) at Thanks for your help!
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NWOSU's Fall Honor Roll List

Vol 11, Iss 3 Submitted by Michael E. Wagner -- "Look at who made the news at Northwestern ... Under Post-Graduate Presidential Honor Roll! Northwestern Oklahoma State University Anounces Fall Honor Rolls, January 14, 2009. I received, my certificate and pin for the National Scholars Honor Society for 2008-2009. It was waiting on my doorstep."
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Scott Cummins - Pilgrim Bard

Vol 15, Iss 6 Alva, OK - The following concerning Scott Cummins, the Pilgrim Bard of Northwest Oklahoma, appeared in Vol. 4, 2002, of The OkieLegacy Ezine and was furnished to the OkieLegacy Ezine by a descendant of Scott Cummins.

Scott Cummins, The Pilgrim Bard

Joan (Wagner) Hodgden and a descendant of Cummins were both members of the Woods County Genealogy Group that had gone on a bus trip to Salt Lake City, Utah in 1982. Joan told about the article she had written.

George I. Cummins was born in Washington County, Maryland, and Mary Ann Clyde Cummins was born in Pennsylvania according to the census reports. Maryland was listed in George's newspaper obituary.

Xenia is in Greene County, Ohio. Harrison County was almost always listed as the Pilgrim Bard's place of birth. The person who sent me this information was not sure where Xenia came from.

George I. Cummins was a minister in the Wesleyan Methodist Church, and does not mention Indians; but that doesn't mean they didn't play a part in Scott's upbringing. There is an article that George had published in the Wesleyan Journal that details one of his trips to members of the church in north central Iowa and he lists who he saw and where he stayed since he was gone for several months. Also, a researcher in Paola did not find any information about George Cummins being an active minister after moving there. She believed he was retired. George may have wbeen ill about that time (possible a stroke) soon after moving there.

Some believe George and Mary never moved to Barber County, Kansas. It was probably Scott's wandering that brought him there. After George died in 1890 in Paola, Mary Ann moved to the Pilgrim Bard's home and lived with him until she died. George was buried in the cemetery at Paola.

Joan mentions in her article that "Donald" was a son. Some wonder if that is the boy that Scott and Mary Ann reportedly adopted while in Paola when the "Orphan Train" went through.

The Pilgrim Bard wrote a lengthy story that was published in the Nescatunga Enterprise titled: "Conception, Birth and Early Days of Nescatunga" and dated Saturday, May 8, 1886. We would really like to find a copy of this 1886 article about Nescatunga. We are still searching, but if anyone out there has a copy we would like to share it in the "OkieLegacy."

Scott Cummins - Soldier, Bone Peddler, Adventurer, Poet & Maker of Own Legend

[Joan Hodgden's - 1975 Scott Cummins article] originally appeared in the Alva (Okla.) Review-Courier Progress Edition 1972, written by Joan Wagner Hodgden (my husband's older sister).]

We know about the virtues that a pioneer must have: a love of adventure, courage in the face of adversity, adaptability, perseverance and just plain grit. But we sometimes leave out a characteristic many of them possessed in a great degree, namely sensitivity to the things around them. This is often revealed to us by a line in a diary; a phrase in an old letter; or a few words scrawled in a bible.

On of Alva's early settlers left us a whole book revealing his awareness of our mutual surroundings. This man was Scott Cummins, soldier, farmer, adventurer, bone peddler, and maker of his own legend as the undisputed poet of these plains. When he made the Run into Woods County on September 16, 1893, settling near the community of Winchester, Scott Cummins had already been a successful farmer and rancher from the Medicine Lodge area, and an early developer in several Kansas communities. He also had won the reputation as a "Pilgrim Bard" of that area, but the spirit and love of adventure that had impelled him during his past career also brought him here to help open the Cherokee Strip.

Orange Scott Cummins was the son of parents imbued with a sense of mission. His father, a Methodist minister named George Irving Cummins, was a native of Scotland, and his mother, Mary Ann Clyde Cummins, a native of Ireland. They married in Scotland and left for the United States, where they were to spend 55 years in the ministry moving around the new, and sometimes-raw American West. Scott was born in Xenia, Harrison County, Ohio on May 12, 1846, but went with his parents as a toddler to northeastern Iowa. It was here in a small frontier village that Scott not only met his first Indians, but also grew up with them, playing their games, learning their customs, and obviously loving every minute of it. He was so taken with the glamour of Indian life that he afterwards incorporated these Indian friends, last survivors, he claimed, of the Mesquoquie tribe, into a romance, which he later claimed as his own. The hero of this tale was Cono, a gallant Indian Chief who, upon hearing of the tragic loss of a baby son by a white woman of the settlement, left on her doorstep a little Indian papoose to be raised as her own. Cummins liked to think that he was that baby, and even in later life affected the dress of the Indian frontier scout.

Scott's growing up took place during times of trouble and change in the United States. He was only fifteen years old when the Civil War started. Nevertheless he tried to enlist immediately in the Union Army, but was refused until he reached the ripe old age of seventeen. In February of 1864 he was taken into Company A of the 3rd Iowa Cavalry. His Civil War exploits included volunteering for dangerous scouting duty behind enemy lines. Perhaps his early Indian games helped him here, and he said that at times the Union uniform was not the only one he was obliged to wear.

After the end of the war and mustering out, he married Mary Melinda Martin in Iowa, but soon left that state to settle in Kansas where his parents had been sent in another step in their long journeying for the Methodist ministry. Scott Cummins was to be an influence in several Kansas communities, but was perhaps most active at Wellington, Kansas, where as one of the early developers he served as Justice of the Peace and was also for a time the proprietor of the Frontier House, Wellington's early hotel. However, when his parents were sent into less settled Barber County, (Kansas) Scott and his wandering spirit followed to the area where both challenge and fortune beckoned. It was in Barber County that he was to find contentment and fame as a poet.

In 1874, after a decade of wandering, including the war, Cummins settled in Barber County near the post office of Lodi. Times were hard; these were years of depression and panic, of arguments over gold or silver currency, and nature was also hard, sending years of drought to farmers just wanting to make a start. The Indian raids were not over, either, and it took a good deal of courage not to mention just plain stubbornness to stay in such a country. Cummins stayed and was named U.S. Marshall there. In the back of his dugout was a room dug into the bank behind it where he stored the arsenal of guns to be used by the settlers during an Indian raid. He obtained from a disgruntled settler a claim about five miles from Lodi by trading for it a team of horses and a corn planter he had picked up somewhere. The hard times convinced him that a corn planter would never be of use in Kansas. The old settler took out and Scott settled down to make a living for his family on the farm by Mule Creek. Grandfather Cummins when asked to comment about Scott's move, responded by naming the cabin he built there "Last Chance" - the last chance (then) for a settler to get a good hot meal on his way west.

To make a living, Scott had to do more than just work on the farm, and so he became a Bone Pilgrim, a gatherer of old buffalo bones, undoubtedly, a profession unique to the Western Plains. The great slaughter of the American Bison, or buffalo, had already taken place, and their bones were left to bleach on the prairie. These bones made good fertilizer when powdered, and burned. Powdered bone ash was also used in ceramics and in cleaning and polishing compounds. It was this gathering job that gave Scott time to observe and respond to the scene around him, and which also took him down into the Cherokee Outlet (popularly known as the Cherokee Strip) to find the ones there. He became familiar on these trips with the Woods County area, and it was here when camping at night, perhaps on Eagle Chief Creek, that he would by the light of campfire and moon put down his thoughts and poetry. He wrote on the materials available - the broad blade of a buffalo knife, or even a piece of soft, flat gypsum. He rarely, if ever, even before publishing, altered or corrected a piece.

These musings came to the attention of a Medicine Lodge newspaper editor, Tom McNeal, who not only printed them, but also encouraged Scott to publish. It was he who renamed Scott, who usually referred to himself as just a "Bone Pilgrim", as the Pilgrim Bard, a wanderer who sang the praises of the nature he loved. Scott's volume of poetry, published in 1903 when he was living at Winchester, Woods County, was to be titled "Musings of the Pilgrim Bard." A copy of this book was presented to President Theodore Roosevelt, and he, a long time enthusiast for the West, wrote of his approval and delight in the volume.

Scott Cummins' adventurism spirit might have led him to join the Run of the great opening of the Cherokee Strip even if he hadn't suffered from an unfortunate occurrence at this time, but the Run must have proved irresistible coming just when it did. On July 4, 1893, while the Cummins family was away celebrating the 4th in the usual picnic style at Mann's Grove, Kansas, the family's home and possessions burned to the ground. A firecracker probably started the fire. The loss included the poet's manuscripts, his historical notes, relics and library, and so was a double blow.

Cummins and his son-in-law, Tom Dyer, who had been a cowboy for the Gregory Eldred Ranch Company, were familiar with the Cherokee Strip country, and Dyer had even surveyed the country in 1891 with the purpose of picking out a location to settle when the Strip was opened. He selected four claims in the same general area, one of which he recommended to Scott Cummins. However, on the day of the Opening when Cummins was encamped near the OE Ranch Headquarters in Barber County, close to Hardtner, he discovered that J. E. Fritzlen and some others from Lake City, Kansas, had brought down racehorses to run for the same section. Mr. Cummins was in a wagon and knew he couldn't beat these fine horses to the place both men wanted. Cummins and his companions decided to stay in the race, however, and when the starting gun sounded, they took their wagon down to the old trail leading to Camp Supply. They then followed it to the Salt Fork, and after crossing there, staked a claim on the west side. They thus became members of the Winchester community, established by Jonathan C. Fuller, who set up a grocery store and Post Office on his claim. Both of these gentlemen were veterans of the Civil War and they enjoyed reminiscing at the store. Mr. Fuller had served with General Grant and Mr. Cummins, of course, told of his scouting experiences. Mr. Fuller, incidentally, named Winchester, for the place in Virginia where General Sheridan started his famous ride. Mr. Cummins named his farm Pilgrim Valley.

It was also at Winchester that Scott Cummins prepared his volumes for publication. Besides "Musings of a Pilgrim Bard," they included the Indian Tale of "OWAANEO (Pale Flower)," "Twilight Reveries," "Shadows and Sunshine," and "The Spy."

Mr. Cummins was active in both the development of Woods County and that of Alva, serving as U.S. Land Commissioner for six years, and as Bailiff of the District Court of Woods County under Judge J. L. Pancoast.

Scott Cummins resided at his Winchester home until his death on March 21, 1928. His wife, Mary, had preceded him in death January 24, 1903. Her grave is still located on a high knoll just west of the Winchester homestead.

The children of these pioneer parents included Ralla and Dwight, both of whom died in infancy. Walter Scott, Nina Canema, and Donald, Dewey Dwight all resided in Woods County as adults, as did Daisy Lorn Cummins, who later went to live in Colorado. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Re-election Campaign - 1936

Vol 14, Iss 37 America - This is a speech by Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR) during his reelection campaign in 1936. In FDR's case, the Republicans were claiming they could create and manage the social programs FDR was fostering better than FDR himself.

Back in 1936 F.D. Roosevelt had these words to say, "They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob."

Franklin D. Roosevelt, Campaign Address at Madison Square Garden (October 31, 1936), can be found in Samuel I. Rosenman, ed., The Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt (New York: Random House, 1938), 5:566-73.

It begins: "Senator Wagner, Governor Lehman, ladies and gentlemen:

"On the eve of a national election, it is well for us to stop for a moment and analyze calmly and without prejudice the effect on our nation of a victory by either of the major political parties.

"The problem of the electorate is far deeper, far more vital than the continuance in the Presidency of any individual. For the greater issue goes beyond units of humanity--it goes to humanity itself.

"In 1932 the issue was the restoration of American democracy; and the American people were in a mood to win. They did win. In 1936 the issue is the preservation of their victory. Again they are in a mood to win. Again they will win.

"More than four years ago in accepting the Democratic nomination in Chicago, I said: "Give me your help not to win votes alone, but to win in this crusade to restore America to its own people."

"The banners of that crusade still fly in the van of a Nation that is on the march. "It is needless to repeat the details of the program which this Administration has been hammering out on the anvils of experience. No amount of misrepresentation or statistical contortion can conceal or blur or smear that record. Neither the attacks of unscrupulous enemies nor the exaggerations of over-zealous friends will serve to mislead the American people.

"What was our hope in 1932? Above all other things the American people wanted peace. They wanted peace of mind instead of gnawing fear.

"First, they sought escape from the personal terror which had stalked them for three years. They wanted the peace that comes from security in their homes: safety for their savings, permanence in their jobs, a fair profit from their enterprise.

"Next, they wanted peace in the community, the peace that springs from the ability to meet the needs of community life: schools, playgrounds, parks, sanitation, highways--those things which are expected of solvent local government. They sought escape from disintegration and bankruptcy in local and state affairs.

"They also sought peace within the Nation: protection of their currency, fairer wages, the ending of long hours of toil, the abolition of child labor, the elimination of wild-cat speculation, the safety of their children from kidnappers.

"And, finally, they sought peace with other Nations--peace in a world of unrest. The Nation knows that I hate war, and I know that the Nation hates war.

"I submit to you a record of peace; and on that record a well-founded expectation for future peace--peace for the individual, peace for the community, peace for the Nation, and peace with the world.

"Tonight I call the roll--the roll of honor of those who stood with us in 1932 and still stand with us today.

"Written on it are the names of millions who never had a chance--men at starvation wages, women in sweatshops, children at looms.

"Written on it are the names of those who despaired, young men and young women for whom opportunity had become a will-o'-the-wisp.

"Written on it are the names of farmers whose acres yielded only bitterness, business men whose books were portents of disaster, home owners who were faced with eviction, frugal citizens whose savings were insecure.

"Written in there in large letters are the names of countless other Americans of all parties and all faiths, Americans who had eyes to see and hearts to understand, whose consciences were burdened because too many of their fellows were burdened, who looked on these things four years ago and said, "This can be changed. We will change it." "We still lead that army in 1936. They stood with us then because in 1932 they still believed. They stand with us today because in 1936 they know. And with them stand millions of new recruits who have come to know.

"Their hopes have become our record.

"We have not come this far without a struggle and I assure you we cannot go further without a struggle.

"For twelve years this Nation was afflicted with hear-nothing, see-nothing, do-nothing Government. The Nation looked to Government but the Government looked away. Nine mocking years with the golden calf and three long years of the scourge! Nine crazy years at the ticker and three long years in the breadlines! Nine mad years of mirage and three long years of despair! Powerful influences strive today to restore that kind of government with its doctrine that that Government is best which is most indifferent.

"For nearly four years you have had an Administration which instead of twirling its thumbs has rolled up its sleeves. We will keep our sleeves rolled up.

"We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace--business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

"They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

"Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred. "I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master.

"The American people know from a four-year record that today there is only one entrance to the White House--by the front door. Since March 4, 1933, there has been only one pass-key to the White House. I have carried that key in my pocket. It is there tonight. So long as I am President, it will remain in my pocket....

"I prefer to remember this campaign not as bitter but only as hard-fought. There should be no bitterness or hate where the sole thought is the welfare of the United States of America. No man can occupy the office of President without realizing that he is President of all the people.

"It is because I have sought to think in terms of the whole Nation that I am confident that today, just as four years ago, the people want more than promises.

"Our vision for the future contains more than promises.

"This is our answer to those who, silent about their own plans, ask us to state our objectives.

"Of course we will continue to seek to improve working conditions for the workers of America--to reduce hours over-long, to increase wages that spell starvation, to end the labor of children, to wipe out sweatshops. Of course we will continue every effort to end monopoly in business, to support collective bargaining, to stop unfair competition, to abolish dishonorable trade practices. For all these we have only just begun to fight.

"Of course we will continue to work for cheaper electricity in the homes and on the farms of America, for better and cheaper transportation, for low interest rates, for sounder home financing, for better banking, for the regulation of security issues, for reciprocal trade among nations, for the wiping out of slums. For all these we have only just begun to fight.

"Of course we will continue our efforts in behalf of the farmers of America. With their continued cooperation we will do all in our power to end the piling up of huge surpluses which spelled ruinous prices for their crops. We will persist in successful action for better land use, for reforestation, for the conservation of water all the way from its source to the sea, for drought and flood control, for better marketing facilities for farm commodities, for a definite reduction of farm tenancy, for encouragement of farmer cooperatives, for crop insurance and stable food supply. For all these we have only just begun to fight.

"Of course we will provide useful work for the needy unemployed; we prefer useful work to the pauperism of a dole.

"Here and now I want to make myself clear about those who disparage their fellow citizens on the relief rolls. They say that those on relief are not merely jobless--that they are worthless. Their solution for the relief problem is to end relief--to purge the rolls by starvation. To use the language of the stock broker, our needy unemployed would be cared for when, as, and if some fairy godmother should happen on the scene.

"You and I will continue to refuse to accept that estimate of our unemployed fellow Americans. Your Government is still on the same side of the street with the Good Samaritan and not with those who pass by on the other side.

"Again--what of our objectives?

"Of course we will continue our efforts for young men and women so that they may obtain an education and an opportunity to put it to use. Of course we will continue our help for the crippled, for the blind, for the mothers, our insurance for the unemployed, our security for the aged. Of course we will continue to protect the consumer against unnecessary price spreads, against the costs that are added by monopoly and speculation. We will continue our successful efforts to increase his purchasing power and to keep it constant.

"For these things, too, and for a multitude of others like them, we have only just begun to fight.

"All this--all these objectives--spell peace at home. All our actions, all our ideals, spell also peace with other nations.

"Today there is war and rumor of war. We want none of it. But while we guard our shores against threats of war, we will continue to remove the causes of unrest and antagonism at home which might make our people easier victims to those for whom foreign war is profitable. You know well that those who stand to profit by war are not on our side in this campaign.

"Peace on earth, good will toward men"--democracy must cling to that message. For it is my deep conviction that democracy cannot lives without that true religion which gives a nation a sense of justice and of moral purpose. Above our political forums, above our market places stand the altars of our faith--altars on which burn the fires of devotion that maintain all that is best in us and all that is best in our Nation.

"We have need of that devotion today. It is that which makes it possible for government to persuade those who are mentally prepared to fight each other to go on instead, to work for and to sacrifice for each other. That is why we need to say with the Prophet: "What doth the Lord require of thee--but to do justly, to love mercy and to walk humbly with thy God." That is why the recovery we seek, the recovery we are winning, is more than economic. In it are included justice and love and humility, not for ourselves as individuals alone, but for our Nation.

"That is the road to peace."

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Meats & Meat Specials (1934)

Vol 12, Iss 44 America - According to Home Comfort Cookbook of 1934, page 64, here is what they suggested to young cooks cooking on the Wrought Iron Range in the 1930s when it came to the cooking of Meats and Meat Specials. Did your grandparents or parents have a special meat preparation, recipe that you would like to share? We would love to hear about it and share with the rest of our readers. Just email Linda (Email:

When properly cooked, meat becomes one of the most readily digestible of foods. When improperly cooked, it is perhaps the most difficult to assimilate. Good cooking can make any meat tender, juicy and nutritious. Bad cooking can make any meat tough, destroy its nutritive value, and render it impossible of digestion, leaving illness and trouble in its wake.

The secret to proper cooking of meats, therefore, is to retain its natural juices, reserving to it their full flavors and nutrition, and neither allowing them to escape not become over-cooked. This applies whether the method is frying, broiling baking, boiling or roasting.

The exception is in the cooking of some meats, as salted or cured, meats. Those for soup-making or stewing; or those for blending as in braising -- when the object is to extract a part, or all, of the juices, instead of retaining them altogether.

To accomplish this result, two basic rules must be observed. The natural juices of meat are albuminous in character and, when meat is cut some of these juices escape, forming a thin film on the outer surface. Like the albumen of eggs, this coating may be quickly coagulated, or hardened, by the sudden application of high heat (searing), whether from boiling water, direct fire, or heated oven. On the other hand, this coating may be quickly dissolved and dissipated by contact with cold water, allowing the juices to be extracted.

Since all meats should be cooked by a moderate heat for the length of time required according to the degree of tenderness, the above basic rules are applied thus: When meat is cooked with the intention of retaining its natural juices -- as for joints or fowl -- its surface should be "seared" by the application of high heat at the beginning, and the temperature lowered to moderate to complete cooking. But . . . When meat is cooked with the intention of extracting a part or all of its natural juices -- as for soups or stews -- it should be started at low heat at the beginning, and the temperature raised to moderate to complete cooking. In both cases, the cooking temperature should be just right to properly set the juices, care being taken not to harden or over-cook them.

With this basic principle in mind, and a knowledge of the proper control of the heat of the range, young cooks should soon master the art of preparing juicy, wholesome, perfectly cooked meats. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

When the Fans Hibernate

Vol 13, Iss 44 Beaver, Oklahoma - The Beaver Herald, November 4, 1909, had the following article about baseball, written by James Bristol Green, with the heading, "When the Fans Hibernate." It was the ending of the season as the died in the wool baseball fans must content themselves with recalling the exciting games of the past season until the rich of the gong next spring starts the race for the season of 1910.

Names of two players stood out the season of 1909. Those names mentioned in the article were john Henry Wagner, better known as "Hans" Wagner, and Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the bright and leading stars of the National American leagues respectively.

The article stated back then that Wagner was the highest priced player in the game, but before that Hans Wagner signed his first contract for $35 a month when he won his nickname of "Big Dutchman" after he had been restrained by violent laying on the hands from wearing his uniform to breakfast.

Hans Wagner had no thought of becoming anything but pitcher until 1895 when he became a member of the Steubenville club in the old Central association. That was a time when Al Wagner, Claude Hitchey and Frank Boweman were on the team. During a slump the manager sent out a call for a pitcher and Al asked that his brother Hans be given a chance.

When Barney Dreyfuss, president of the Pittsburg club, sends out his contracts to his ball players every year he mails one to Hans Wagner that leaves the amount to the "Big Dutchman."

Tyrus "Ty" Raymond Cobb was another bright star of the American league. He stole 39 bases in 1908, but in 1909 season he made a new record, doubling his former mark. Cobb's purpose was to outguess the other fellow. He slid where they were not expecting him to slide. He had nine different methods of reaching a bag and he employed all of them. Cobb could slide head first or feet first. He could dive or he could go into the bag from any direction.

Cobb reached a bag many times in 1909 where he was not credited with a stolen base. Cobb may have been touched out, but the hand that held the ball will be unsteady, and should the ball linger on any part of the Georgian's body the ball stands little chance of remaining in the hand.

When Cobb played baseball he called forth everything he possessed -- strength, energy, speed and mind. He worked them all to the limit. During the 1909 season the prime of Cobb's life still remained to be reached. Cobb sprinted against the fastest throwers in the American league and he had beaten them. In 1907 Johnny Kling's arm stopped Cobb, but last year Cobb stole bases on Kling. Cobb could be half way to a base before most runners get a start and the pitcher unwinds himself, and he is into a bag before the throw from an average catcher reaches the baseman's hands. Ty Cobb was known as baseball's marvel. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

W. E. Eutsler Grocery (Alva, OK)

Vol 13, Iss 42 Alva, Oklahoma - This is a trade token from Alva, Oklahoma that made it's way onto Ebay Sept. 3, 2001. The bid went for $11.35 on September 3, 2001.

The tokens from the W.E. Eutsler Groceries was good for $1.00 in trade during the war years in the '30s & '40s. The token is the large version square made of aluminum and measures 35mm in diameter. Since it was made of aluminum, we assume it was used during the WWII era when copper was reserved for the government and the war effort. You can Click on the photos to see a larger view of each of the tokens.

History of Eutsler Grocery . . . Instead of bidding on the token, I got out my "Pioneer Footprints Across Woods County" history book to see what I could find out about the Eutsler Grocery.

I also asked an Alva Friend if he remembered W. E. Eutsler's Grocery. He told me that he remembers when it was on the east side of the square in downtown Alva. His dad used to deliver cream to the Eutsler store and other grocery stores in the area.

The east side of the square in downtown Alva now has the Old Runnymede Hotel on the north end of the corner with the Professional building next door to the south and the Farmers Co-op on the southend of the corner.

Eutsler Grocery also had a grocery store in Dacoma with the company store located in Alva.

We flip through the Pioneer Footprints book and found under Walter T. Eason a story written by Walter T. Eason, Jr. This excerpt was taken from Eason's memories of the earlier stores in Alva, ". . . . . Some of the early stores I remember were the Lee Wagner grocery, Eutsler grocery, The Tea Store, Sears Bootery, Meixner bakery, Howard grocery, Sonderup Livery Stable, Crowell Lumber & Coal Yard, Shafers Leather Shop, Reeds Poultry & Cream. . . . ."

In March, 1904... Jacob Jay Glaser boarded a train for Alva. When he arrived he stopped at the first barber shop he came to and asked for a job. Guess who that proprietor was. Yep! It was W. E. Eutsler! To make a long story short, Eutsler hired Glaser on the spot and a friendship followed. Glaser worked for Eutsler until he saved enough money to open his own shop. Glaser's shop was on the NW corner of the square in the basement of the Green Building. Glaser closed his shop October, 1906 before statehood.

Eutsler's is mentioned again in the Spring of 1928, Ed Hazard and his wife (Mildred) moved back to Alva and Ed went to work for W. E. Eutsler in his grocery store on the north side of the square until 1932.

The Red Tag Food Market was established by Ed Hazard, Sr. and Fred Cox, Sr., in the 400 block on the northside of the square and operated until 1939.

Sometime after that, Ed went to work for W. E. Eutsler again in Eutsler's grocery on the east side of the square until Eutsler sold out. I am not sure of the date that Eutsler sold out. If anyone out there has a memory jog and can fill in some of these little tidbits, please feel free to Email NW Okie or leave a comment below.

After Ed Hazard left Eutsler's grocery, Ed went to work for Shalloup Packing Co. and worked there until he went into business for himself at 720 Oklahoma Blvd, in September, 1952 (what was known as "Ed's Mart."), retiring in 1973. View/Write Comments (count 1)   |   Receive updates (1 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Oil Rig Fire Probable Strike by Lightening

Vol 13, Iss 12 Dacoma, Oklahoma - Did you hear, see or read about the oil rig fire that was about 1/2 mile northwest of Dacoma, Woods county, Oklahoma a few days ago? They are saying it could probably have been struck by a lightening storm in the area at the time. - [The photos above were taken at a safe distance by photographer, Robert L. Wagner of Alva, Oklahoma.]

They say the Eagle Energy Production's oil rig fire that sustained considerable damage in a Saturday noon explosion at a rig owned by DanD's of Lamont, Oklahoma. At least a couple of workers were transported by ambulance to Share Medical Center.

The local reported, " . . . The rig had been shut down for more than two days after drillers hit a high- pressure gas pocket which triggered the blowout preventer and stopped the drilling equipment."

It continued on to state, "No official word on a cause for the fire.was ready by press time, but a heavy electrical storm was passing through Dacoma at the time the fire was reported"
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NWOSU Spring '09 Honor Rolls

Vol 11, Iss 25 Michael says, "I have to let you know that the Spring '09 honor roll is out. I once again made it on the President's Honor Roll for Post Graduate students (4.0)."

To be eligible for the President's Honor Roll for NWOSU's Spring Honor Roll 2009 these are the qualifications according to NWOSU: "Those on the President?s Honor Roll earned all As, or a 4.0 grade point average (GPA), in a minimum of 12 undergraduate or nine graduate hours."

PRESIDENT?S HONOR ROLL - Graduate & Post-Graduate Students
ALVA ? Nathan Chaplin, Brandi Parker, Paul Scioscia, Michael Wagner (OkieLegacy's CS Techie),
BARTLESVILLE - Hannah Feuerborn.
ENID ? Mollie Babb, Treva Batcho, James Clark, Robyn Congdon, Carrissa Cowen, Darrell Lanford, Yvoone Lewis-Odom, Susan Lof, Jenea Midgett, Edmond Rollins, David Tomlinson, Carolyn Wagner. FAIRFAX - Aimee Snyder.
MEDFORD ? Jessica Anderson, Christopher Blubaugh, Steve Drennan, Debra Lehman.
PERRY ? Amber Fortney.
PONCA CITY ? Melody Bradley, Jason Stillwell.
POND CREEK ? Melissa Winter.
TONKAWA ? Jennifer Lewallen.
TURPIN ? Kaylyn Hansen.
WAUKOMIS ? Tammy Hromas.
WOODWARD ? Shannon Craig.

CYPRESS ? Travis Bernard

CAMPO ? Brandi Alton.

MEDICINE LODGE ? Sean McAnarney.
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1921, March 30 - Bank Robbery At Salt Springs, Oklahoma

Vol 16, Iss 35 Salt Springs, OK - We are in the process of searching for the last bank robbery at Salt Springs, located in the northwestern part of Oklahoma. What we did find was an Appeal from District Court, Harper County, with Arthur G, Sutton, Judge, residing; and Madden v State 1924 OK CR 62, 223 P. 716, 26 Okl.Cr. 251, 03/01/1924, Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals.

It seems that one Thomas Dickson was convicted on the 21 September 1921, in the district court of Harper county, Oklahoma of the crime of robbery in the first degree, and sentenced to serve a term of 10 years imprisonment in the state penitentiary. Was this the "Last Bank Robbery" of the Citizens' State Bank of Salt Springs?

The Appeal mentions, from the judgment rendered against him defendant appealed to the Harper county district court by filing on the 17th day of March 1922 petition in error with case-made attached to the appeal.

It was first urged that the trial court erred in overruling the demurrer to the information. The information omitting caption and signature of the county attorney, is as follows:

"Now comes D.P. Parker, the duly qualified and acting county attorney, in and for Harper county, state of Oklahoma, and gives the district court of Harper county, state of Oklahoma, to know and be informed that one Thomas Dickson, did in Harper county, and in the state of Oklahoma, on or about the 30th day of March (1921), in the year of our Lord, one thousand, nine hundred and twenty-one and anterior to the presentment hereof, commit the crime of robbery in the first degree in the manner and form as follows, to wit: The said Thomas Dickson did then and there unlawfully, willfully, intentionally, wrongfully and feloniously conspire with and plan with one Joseph Hierholzer, to commit said crime and did aid and abet said Joseph Hierholzer in the commission of said crime, and that said Joseph Hierholzer being aided and abetted by said Thomas Dickson, did then and there wrongfully, and feloniously take certain personal property, to wit, the sum of $60.25, lawful money of the United States of America from the immediate presence of and from the possession of A.C. Clothier, as the cashier of the Citizens' State Bank of Salt Springs, Oklahoma, a banking corporation, and against the will of said A.C. Clothier, accomplished by means of force and fear of great, immediate and unlawful injury to the person of said A.C. Clothier, said fear being brought about in the mind of said A.C. Clothier by said Joseph Hierholzer with force and violence pointing a revolver at and toward said A.C. Clothier, and by said Joseph Hierholzer striking the said A.C. Clothier on the head with a revolver and by said Joseph Hierholzer shooting at said A.C. Clothier with a revolver, said revolver being then and there a deadly weapon, and did then and there and thereby by the employment of said force and fear as aforesaid, obtain possession of and retain possession of said property and prevent and overcome the resistance of said A.C. Clothier to said unlawful and felonious taking of said personal property, said personal property being immediately before and at the time of said wrongful taking in the immediate presence of and in the possession of said A.C. Clothier, as cashier as aforesaid with the wrongful and felonious intent of the said defendant to deprive the owner thereof and to convert the same to his own use, contrary to the form of the statutes, in such cases made and provided, and against the peace and dignity of the state."

Also, it was stated in a another appeal dated March 1, 1924, that the defendant testified in the preliminary examination of Dickson, Charles Brankel, Bennett Highfill, and Joseph Hierholzer, charged with robbing the Citizens' State Bank of Salt Springs, that Brankel and Highfill were not to his knowledge at his (defendant's) home on Monday the 28th day of March, 1921, and that they did not with his knowledge and consent take the horse used by Hierholzer on the 30th day of March, 1921, in robbing the Citizens' State Bank of Salt Springs. It was as to the materiality and falsity of this testimonyy given by the defendant in the preliminary examination of those charged with the bank robbery that caused this prosecution.

The undisputed evidence was that Hierholzer, in attempting to rob the Citizens' State Bank at Salt Springs, rode a horse belonging to this defendant, and it was also uncontradicted that the horse which Hierholzer rode on the 30th day of March, 1921, in robbing the bank, was taken from the defendant's premises some time during the night of March 28, 1921. It was apparent that the testimony of the defendant given in the preliminary examination could have been material to connect Hierholzer, Brankel and Highfill with the robbery of the Citizens' State Bank by means of connecting them with the horse which Hierholzer rode and which was owned by Madden.

[You can read more of the Appeal at the links listed above at the beginning of this feature.]

Was this the "Last" bank robbery of the Salt Springs, Oklahoma bank?

If anyone runs across any information concerning the "last" bank robbery at Salt Springs, Oklahoma, we would love to hear from you. You may contact Linda at View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (1 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Westview - A Waynoka Connection

Vol 11, Iss 6 We found this next item of interest in one of our packed boxes. It came from my husband's sister, Joan (Wagner) Hodgden. The name of the Journal was Westview - A Journal of Western Oklahoma, Vol. II, No. 4, a published quarterly by Southwestern Center for Regional Studies. It was published, Summer of 1983 by the executive committee of Southwestern Regional Studies Center.

It included Treasures, Horse Cents, Connections, Poetic Glimpses, and other stories of Western Oklahoma. One of those connection stories that I would like to share with you concerned The Waynoka Connection, page 20-21, written by Phil Ewing Gafford.

It goes something like this ... "Waynoka rates only an asterisk on Oklahoma's Great Plains package. But this Woods County community deserves higher acclaim. It was the hub of a stranger-than-fiction connection that marked a revolutionary transition in transportation history.

It goes on to state, "Waynoka was the mid-point of the 1929 honeymoon of two unusual partners in marriage, a tin goose and an iron horse. The union gave birth to a transcontinental travel dream, New york to Los Angeles in 48 hours.

Passengers flew by day in an all-metal Ford Tri-motor, the historic "Tin Goose," and rode by night in a Pullman behind a coal-burning locomotive, the legendary "Iron Horse." The Waynoka connection was half way in the coast-to-coast route, home of an evening plane-to-train transfer for westbound passengers and a morning train-to-plane transfer eastbound.

Born in July, 1929, the baby lived only 15 months. Waynoka's vision of becoming the world's transportation center died with it. History, however is likely to look kindly on this little town. It was part of the leading edge of an unprecedented avalanche of aeronautical development that exploded in a short seven-year span, 1929 to 1936.

Will Rogers and Charles Lindberh played prominent parts in the imaginative plane-train venture.

Rogers made a least one test flight on the transcon route as well as frequent other trips. Although never employed by Transcontinental Air Transport airline or Santa Fe railroad, Rogers was an active "ambassador" in support of the service.

Lindbergh was employed as chairman of TAT's technical committee by the line's founder, Clement M. Keys, financier and former editor of The Wall Street Journal. Keys sought to capitalize on the aviation boom that followed Lindy's 1927 Trans-Atlantic flight.

Lindbergh directed selection of routes, equipment and pilot personnel. He specifically chose Waynoka as the central office for the bold experiment, supervising investment of almost $1 million in TAT's base five miles northeast of town. TAT was dubbed the "Lindbergh Line," and his picture was included in advertisements.

Colonel Charles Lindbergh and wife visited the Waynoka airport on a Friday and inspected the field while his plane was being refueled and made ready for their further flight westward, bound on an inspection tour of the TAT, Maddox air route, as reported by the Woods County Enterprise issue of January 10, 1930.

While the Waynoka paper occasionally noted Lindbergh items, his visits became too frequent to make news.

An area native, Garold Whitlaw, a prominent Oklahoma executive, recalled that he saw Will Rogers and Charles Lindbergh often on the streets of Waynoka.

Whitlaw also remembered, "Just out of Waynoka high school, I was part of the town's boom. I remember the crowds at the Fred Harvey House. My senior class had its prom there. It was a place for the 'elite 400' with more silverware and big heavy napkins and table cloths than I've ever seen anywhere."Whitlaw remained very much a part of the Waynoka connection, spending most weekends at his plush home on one of two large Whitlaw-owned ranches.

First trip of the Tin Goose-Iron Horse marriage began at 6:05 p.m., Saturday, July 7, 1929. Passengers departed New York on a Pennsylvania train, leaving it the next morning after breakfast at Columbus, Ohio. They crossed the tracks, climbed into a Ford Trimotor and took off for the Waynoka Connection with intermediate stops at Indianapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City and Wichita.

Arriving Waynoka 12 minutes ahead of the 6:24 p.m. schedule, Sunday, July 8, the passengers were transported by bus to the Fred Harvey Home restaurant at the Santa Fe depot. Following dinner, they boarded a Pullman attached to the railroad's "Missionary" special to Clovis.

Clovis arrival time was 7:20 the next morning. Passengers breakfasted at the Harvey House there before being driven six miles to Santa Fe's Gallaher Station, now site of Cannon Air Force base, for an 8:10 a.m. departure to Los Angeles. The day's flight included stops at Albuquerque, Winslow and Kingman before its scheduled arrival in Los Angeles at 5:52 p.m.

The eastbound trip was by air from Los Angeles to Clovis, Pullman from Clovis to Waynoka, air to Columbus and pullman to New York.

P. Hicks Daniel, Santa Fe retiree who in 1912 was the railroad's first agent at Heman, six miles southwest of Waynoka, remembered this later work as traveling agent out of the Amarillo general offices.

Hicks, said, "I went monthly from Amarillo to St. Louis and back in the '29 - '30 period. My return was on the Missionary, meeting the air-train-air passengers in the evening at Waynoka. The train conductor or brakeman inquired in advance how many passengers wanted meals at the Harvey House, and that information was 'wired' ahead so the meals could be ready wen the train arrived."

Hicks went on to say, "Supper at the Harvey House was real good. I think it cost $1.52. With stops at all stations for mail, Wells-Fargo express, baggage and passengers, plus flagstops at blind sidings, the 310-mile run from Waynoka to Clovis was an overnight schedule. Pullman fare was $2.00."

Total cost of the transcon journey in 1929 was $351.94, about twice the price of luxury train all the way. A headline in the January 17, 1930 issue of the Enterprise reported, "Air travel rates greatly reduced." The article listed new fares, including rail ticket and lower berth to Clovis and air beyond, from Waynoka to Albuquerque, $26: Winslow, $38: Kingman, $49: and Los Angeles, $63.

A week later, the Waynoka newspaper told of a TAT Trimotor crash in California, noting it "marked the greatest disaster in American Commercial air transportation." The accident claimed 16 lives, including 2 pilots, six other men and eight women.

Despite the tragedy the air-train combination carried capacity loads in early 1930. On Sunday, January 27, TAT planes counted 79 passengers between Columbus and Waynoka, posting a record 75,075 passenger miles in one day.

Most issues of the Enterprise included stories of famous people making part or all of the coast-to-coast trip. Amelia Earhart was on the inaugural trip. Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis, the "Czar" of baseball, was on one flight into Waynoka. Chick Bale, nationally known comedian and author spent a night in Waynoka enroute by TAT-train from St. Louis to Los Angeles. Anne Morrow Lindbergh made many trips, the paper of January 3, 1930, noting that "He (Lindbergh) usually was accompanied on his flights by his bride."

Helen Chapman is another native Waynokan with vivid memories of the great experiment. Chapman said, "I remember Colonel Lindbergh and Will Rogers coming in often. The crews stayed at the big, new Eastman Hotel. Being just a year out of high school, I thrilled every time I saw the pilots. Maybe it was their uniforms. They wore dark suits with white shirts and dark ties. Their caps were something like train conductors: but more flashy, cocky, jaunty."

Chapman also mentioned, "There was no security. Crowds walked right up to the planes. Lindbergh sometimes sat on a bench near the plane, casually visiting with the public."

Wayne Carson, treasurer and past president of the Waynoka Chamber of Commerce, was born North of town in the year of TAT's glory. He stood across the tracks, looking at the imposing Fred Harvey House building.

Carson said, "There's a historical monument. I think there should be much more of this important history preserved for future generations. I'm dedicated to seeing that it is."

Waynoka's dream ended in October, 1930. On October 17, 1930, just 12 days before the first anniversary of the stock market crash, the Woods County Enterprise carried a story of the last TAT plane to arrive on a regular run. It was empty. Passengers had chosen the new all-air route with Tulsa and Oklahoma City stops between St. Louis and Amarillo. Transcontinental Air Transport soon would become Trans World Airlines (TWA).

But a collapsed economy and massive $3 million deficit didn't kill this baby born of an experimental marriage; rather it succumbed to progress, fading into history as an indelible chapter in the story of technological advance.

In less than six more years, aerodynamics and cooperating sciences counted invention unrivaled in any other similar short span of time. Advanced wing and body design, drag reduction, skins smoothed with flush rivets, retractable landing gear, increased engine efficiency, 100 octane gasoline, radio guidance, automatic pilot and other instruments were among the innovations.

The Douglas DC-3 emerged as a product of this super creative period. Following its first flight in July, 1936, exactly seven years after the TAT-train honeymoon, the DC-3 established unmatched records for dependability and service.

Commercial aviation came of age in that dust-bowl year, 1936. The baby born of the mating of the Tin Goose and Iron-Horse played a brief but important part in making it possible. It all came together at the Waynoka Connection.
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The Moon & Venice

Vol 11, Iss 1 Our youngest son, Robert L. Wagner, took this great shot around the the first of January, 2009 up in the San Juan mountains of Southwest Colorado.

It shows the moon shining in the Rocky mountains with the planet Venice below it. There were other planets showing nearby, but he couldn't get them into the picture.

Thanks, Robert, for an outstanding shot of the moon and venice!
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1926 NSTC Yearbook - Northwestern High School

Vol 18, Iss 23 Alva, OK - Director of Secondary Education - Dr. J. V. L. Morris - Equipped as he is, with the ability to get results, and with progressive determination to have the best, Dr. Morris stands the department of Secondary Education in position to bid fair for recognition of strongest High School in the Northwest District.

Foreword - In presenting this glimpse of our High School we are stimulated by a degree of pride in our department and our accomplishments. It is our constant ambition to be a deserving part of the great Northwestern State Teachers College. We believe that our position has made itself felt in the past and we are determined to exert even greater efforts in the future. Fostered as we are by Alma Mater we do not meet all of the vicissitudes of High School life. Neither do we suffer all the calamities of the venture which so violently and surely assail, we feel ourselves particularly fortunate in that we are in attendance at a high school which affords a college environment. We are one hundred per cent for Northwestern, her victories and her glorious defeats are as sure of our support as the spring is of the flowers. On Northwestern!

Appreciation - It is said of youth that we do not appreciate true friendship until in after years. Perhaps this is right philosophy (sic), but we cannot will see how it is going to be possible for us to have greater appreciation, then than now for our esteemed friend and benefactor, Dean Minnie Shockley, upon whose wisdom and sincere interest in our welfare we so confidently rely. Her gracious and persuasive stimulus to higher, ever higher endeavor and scholarship creates for us an atmosphere which we cover for Northwestern.

Knights of Rangers & Knights of Castles - Knights of old in oft spun story - Craved events and deeds of glory, - That they might in greater measure - Show their courage, -- thereby treasure - For an age then fast declining - Valor -- their true souls pining. - So today our theme of story - Full recounts the deeds of glory - Done by knights, not of the castle - With the drawbridge and the wassail, - Plumed, draped, gold spur and tassel, - But of modern knights besieging - Evasive Education, - In her "castle on the hill."

Mixed Chorus - Zona Hufford, Accompanist.

High School Queen & King - Helen Lockhart, Senior & Halbert Brown, Senior Campus Photos:

Director & Prinicipal of Junior High School - Miss Ann K. Wilke, A.B. -- At the establishment of a Junior High School in conjunction with the courses offered at Northwestern for furnishing means of actual experience for potential teachers, a more capable person than Miss Wilke could not be found. In spite of the fact that this is the first year of the Junior High School marked advancement has been realized and Miss Wilke has great plans for its future.

Junior High School - The 7th, 8th and 9th grades have been reorganized as a Junior High School. Some of the advantages accruing are an increase in the flexibility of the curriculum to better meet individual needs large room and an opportunity to commence secondary instruction somewhat earlier where the pupils capacity permit.

Superior Model Training School - W. H. Wood, A.B., A.M., Professor of Elementary Education. -- It was in 1910 that Mr. W. H. Wood came to Northwestern as director of elementary education. His sixteen years of service have only served to endear him to the thousands who have worked in his department.

Hundreds go out each year with the two-year State Certificate. These go into the rural and village schools. To train these more effectively, Mr. Wood after many projects had been worked out, succeeded in getting the Training School rated at 1663 points -- more that 400 points in excess of the requirements for a Superior Model School. This high rating which was near the maximum capacity of the score card has added greatly to the capacity of the Training School to train effectively for the grades and for the Junior High School.

Training School - Primary Education - Primary Department, 1st & 2nd grades; Intermediate Department, 3rd & 4th grades; Grammar Grades.

Appreciation - Students: The merchants who have patronized the Commercial section have made your 1926 Ranger possible. These are the firms who have shown that they appreciate your presence in Alva and at Northwestern. These are the men who are willing to admit that Northwestern is an asset and not a liability to this community. These are the best merchants, with the most honest goods and the biggest hearts. These people have proved to be true friends to the students at Northwestern. There may be others but we have no way of directing your attention to them. These are the dealers who deliver satisfaction or your money back. Let us give them the same deal. Make a list of these and hang it on the foot of your bed or prop it up against the molasses pitcher and memorize it. Then let your conscience be your guide.

Community Ads - Chamber of Commerce, Northwestern State Teachers' College, Lane's Confectionery, Mountain Oil Co., Woods County Officials, Crouch Studio, J. C. Hess Ins., R. I. DeGeer Groceries, Monfort-Smith Jewelers, Marcum & Branson Goodyear Tires, Schnitzner Market, Alva Laundry & Dry Cleaners, The Band Box Millinery, The City Bakery, Hurd Motor Co., Fettke & McHugh Real Estate & Ins., Alva State Bank, Ford Sales & Service, Tyree Brothers Clothiers, Tanner Bros. Clothing Co., E. W. Tanner Co., The Tea Store, Crowell Bros Lumber & Coal, W. B. Fowitz Funeral Home, Palace Barber Shop, Dr. A. W. Clark Dentist, R. J. McCormick Jeweler, Pood;s Shining Parlor, Farmer's Independent Oil Co., Rexall Drug Store, Bynum's Hamburger Stand, Schaefer-Doolin Mtg. Co., Alva Building & Loan Assoc., South Side Barber & Beauty Parlor, The Bobbing Shoppe, W. E. Eutsler Grocery & Meat Market, Cochran Drug Co., L. A. Wagner Cash Grocery, Pullman Cafe, The Ranger Shop, Majestic Theatre, Hughey & Kennon Ins, Real EState & Loans, J. A. Renfrew & Co. Furniture, New Racket Store, The Alva Record, Bell's Ice Cream Co., Unique Confectionery, W. W. Starr, W. C. Wilkinson, Bradbury's College Book Store, Alva Motor Co., City Tailors, Oklahoma Cigar Store, pribble Hotel, Amsden Lumber Co., McHenry Cafe, Winter Brothers, J. D. Umber, Alva Storage Battery Co., W. B. Johnson, Elk Barber Shop, E. I. Sams Monuments, Maxwell printing Co., Hub Tailor Co., Carrell Music Co., First National Bank, Joe Edwards Motor Co., Alva Roller Mills, J. C. Penney Co., Central National Bank, McGill Bros. Furniture & Swimming Pool, Monfort Drug & Bookstore, Ellis Studio, Kavanaugh & Shea, Weinrich Clothing Co., Southwest Power Co.,High Grade Oil Co., Sears' Bootery, Illinois Cigar Store, Alva Motorcycle & Bicycle Shop.

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Flames Leap From Air (1922, Alva, Okla.)

Vol 15, Iss 9 Alva, OK - On Roostweb site was the following: Friday, 17 Mar 1922, Vol 35, No 48, in Kathy's notes that she had transcribed it with as much legibility as she possibly could.


This concerns the mystery of many fires in Alva, Oklahoma, in a cottage in the vicinity of 5th & Center Street, which was faffling the Alva officials and residents, March 13. Blue flames, their origin a mystery, burst into being apparently from the air itself, threatened a horrible death to Mrs. Ona Smith, 23 years old, an invalid, who lay paralyzed on a bed in a little cottage in Alva, Oklahoma.

The authorities were completely baffled and the woman cowered in terror. Bedside watchers, were keeping vigil day and night, could only leap to the rescue as the mysterious fires burst out at intervals in bedding, clothing worn by Mrs. Smith, wall draperies or any inflammable material in the room.

Two mattresses had been reduced to smoldering ruins, a calendar on the wall had been ignited, a shawl worn by the invalid had burst into flames and several other blazes started in bedding in the last few days.

The first fire came at midnight, Wednesday. The flames which suddenly leaped up from the bottom of the mattress on the bed, were extinguished by Mrs. Smith's mother, Mrs. Jno. Meyers. Later the mattress caught fire in another spot. Friday, a calendar on the wall blazed. Soon after the carpet ignited. An aunt, Mrs. Mary Wagner, was in the room at the time.

The invalid was removed from the bed to the chair. Her shawl flamed as it touched the floor. All bedding and apparel were removed from the room and a new mattress installed. It burst into flames the next morning, witnessed by several, among them a newspaper reporter.

Dr. C. L. Rogers, who was called in following the first blaze, failed to solve the mystery. Speculation here is rife concerning the reason of the fires. Theories advanced include spiritualism, chemical reaction from urine, and incendiarism. Some witnesses said the fires seemed to start in the air, blue flames jumping and crackling. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

1st Woman To Vote In Congress Election (Mrs. C. W. Rogers)

Vol 14, Iss 11 America - The picture in that news article shows the first woman to vote in the Congress Election. It was Mrs. C. W. Rogers. It was in the 10 March 1918, Section 5, Magazine Section, page 17 that we found this article where suffrage worker tells her news in rhyme and opens up the glad Sprintime, as written by Eleanor Booth Simmons, and titled -- "And Now The Suffragette Doth Shine."

The rhyming article begins:

"Ruth Litt, a Suffolk farmerette
And justly famous suffragette,
is slated, it is said, to be
The Democratic nominee
for congress from the district where
her pumpkins grace the county fair.
The lady's coy; she laughs, "A fig
for office! -- come and see the pig
with which my farm, sirs, wolk'd away
with porcine prizes t'other day."
Still, if her country needs her, she
the Lady from New York may be.
The surf amendment still hangs fire,
and Jimmy Wadsworth wakes the ire
of women whom he (represents!!!!!)
and likewise many suffrage gents
because it seems he will vote true
to Mrs. Wadsworth's well known view,
to wit: That woman's place is home,
from which she should not ever roam
Except to fight the Feminists,
And Socialists, and suffragists --
that fearsome, awful three-in-one
That so obscures the antis' sun."

Ah well, a vulgar phrase to quote,
the Senator has got the goat
of every suffragist of note,
and Ida Harper says of him
that this will be the end of Jim,
so far as being Senator,
or President, or Governor,
or -- anything we're voting for.

Reprisal? Aye, and 'tis a tool
suffs have acquired, sirs, in your school.

They wish that bill was passed; the work
drags on them, yet they may not shirk.
Poor Mrs. Carrie Chapman Catt
is very tired of staying at
the town of Washington, D.C.
E'en like the good old antisa, she
doth sorely long at home to be.
Each morn she asks, in earnest tones,
of Suff Committee Chariman Jones:
"Is this the psychologic day!
Have we the votes to pass it? Say!
Is Chamberlain's appendix out
and is he back?-- But is there doubt
that Simmons will consent to pair? --
Is Calder, our good standby, there?" --
And still the Chairman counsels, "Wait!
'Tis not the psychologic date."

But Big Boss Mary Garrett Hay,
return'd from Washington today.
She says that bill will pass right soon,
will pass before another moon,
and Albany will ratify
before our Solons say good-by.

And Legislatures thirty-six --
with, it may be, some futile kicks --

are very sure to do the same.

So we shall realize the aim
that ruled the life of Susan B.,
and would that she were here to see!

An epoch dawn'd last week for us,
without the slightest jar or fuss--
no outcrop of divorce, no fights
'twixt man and wife on women's rights--
some thirty thousand, maybe more,
of womenfolk from districts four--
two on Manhattan's crowded isle--
did leave their wonted tasks a while,
and, as New York now says they can,
did cast their votes for Congressman.

'Tis rumor'd 'mid the local gems
of news that Wagner of the Dems
and Koenig of the G.O.P.
did call Miss mary Hay to see--
she of the City Suff Partie.
They call'd, and took her by the hand--
oh, not together, understand;
but great minds often share a hunch;
so Bob stroll'd round once after lunch,
and Sam, he also sought Miss Hay--
this was before election day--
and each in heartfelt tones did say:
"Miss Hay, my party, always fair,
and true, and just, and right, and square;
my party -- as you know the first
the shackles on your sex to burst--
aims Tuesday next to set the pace
with women watchers at each place
of voting." "Splendid!" cried Miss Hay.
So Bob and Sam, they hied away,
and Sam, he comb'd the G.O.P.
for women who would watchers be.

Bob sought the woman Democrat,
and proudly each his quarry sat
election day behind the rails,
points sacred hitherto to males,
except for suffrage watchers once
or twice allow'd to do the stunts.

Election day pass'd with éclat.
Nice family groups -- Papa, Mamma
and Baby waiting in its cart
while inside Wifie did her part
With Hubby -- all that morning graced
small shops wherein the polls were placed.
The women watchers lent an air,
and did their work with loyal care.
men of the district, most polite,
anxious Miss Voter should vote right,
did hover -- not too near the gates --
with praises of their candidates.
Yes, Woman's Hour has surely struck.
To her New York has "pass'd the buck."
Elections now will be the rage,
and soon the Empire State will stage
a function on a mammoth scale;
in fact, next fall's will be a whale.

A maiden who at Occoquan
spent sixty days for standing on
the pavement at the White House gate,
where with a banner she did wait
to show the President a phrase
that he had writ in other days--
the Mistress Margaret Fotheringham,
a White House picket with a lamb-
like mien -- and little -- but oh my!

the kind, you know, to do or die--
a Red Cross worker now, she pants
to serve our soldier boys in France.
At Bellevue Hospital is she,
a-learning how to make beef tea
and daintily things that cannot fail
to tempt a poor sick wounded male.
But very soon she hopes to sail
to do her bit for Uncle Sam,
does Mistress margaret Fotheringham,
who was a White House picket once,
and still defends the picket stunts.

You'd make Miss Fotheringham quite hot
by doubting she's a patriot.
"I've fifteen cousins at the front,"
she says. "We Fotheringhams are wont
to stand for truth and liberty,
and that's the reason why, you see--
the very reason why I went
as picket to the President."

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Chronology of Old Opera House Mystery

Vol 17, Iss 31 Alva, OK - This is the chronology that we have put together for the Mysterious death of Mabel Oakes, 9 November 1910, in downtown Alva, Oklahoma, at the "Old Opera House," on the South side of the square, Barnes Avenue.

We begin with March, 1909, when Mabel Oakes begins working in Nelson Miller's office at the Old Opera House as general office girl as stenographer, learning typewriting, office work. Miss Oakes had worked at his office until about three weeks before her death with a couple of intermissions of about a month each time because of a couple of broken arms.

December 1909 - Mabel Oakes has first broken arm for which strychnine and morphine are prescribed for her by Dr. Elizabeth Grantham. Mabel was laid off from work for a month. Miller stated that Mabel's first sinking spell started during this time and lasted about ten minutes or so.

24 January 1910 - Nelson & Rachel Miller are having financial problems. Standard Savings & Loan Assoc. of Michigan Loaned Nelson & Rachel Miller $1200, 24 Jan. 1910, Block 25, Lot 16, two-story house.

February or March 1910 - Mabel's second broken arm occurred and Miss Oakes was off about a month for each broken arm.

April & May 1910 - Mr. Miller had done some business with George Oakes, Mabel's father. Miller loaned out some short term loans for Oakes on a commission.

27 June 1910 - Sheriff Hugh Martin, Jr., Woods County Sheriff, filed a Petition for injunction against Justice N. L. Miller & Constable N. J. Lewellen in a civil case concerning a confiscated barrel of Beer.

Summer of 1910 - About 9:00 to 10:00 p.m., Mr Miller had asked Hank W. Noah, Fred Frederickson and John E. Shaw to go up to the Oakes house on East Barnes to see if they couldn't catch the party that was delivering certain "Black Hand" letters to Mabel. Miller had mentioned that Mabel was up at the house and some other girl was with her. That neither the parents or brother were at home.

Summer of 1910 - Miller stated that Mabel first went to see Dr. Saffold for treatment of her sinking spells.

August 1910 - David Arndt experienced Mabel Oakes fainting spell in Miller's office the middle of August, 1910 Miss Oakes lying on the floor, unconscious.

August thru October 1910 - Dr. Saffold examined Mabel Oakes three times beginning in August through October, 1910.

2 August 1910 - Dr. Saffold stated, "The first time that I saw Miss Oakes professionally was about the 1st of August. I think it was the second. I was called down and found her in almost an unconscious condition sitting in a chair. The first time, Miller asked me to go down to see her. The second time Miller asked me to call on her. The last time I saw Mabel, Miller came to me and asked me to produce an abortion. He came to me and asked me to examine her. He asked me if I would examine her."

Late August or 1 September 1910 - Mr. E. P. Weaver testified that he had seen Miss Oakes get into Mr. Miller's buggy the later part of August or the first of September, on a Friday evening. He also testified that it was NOT Mr. Miller. He was not certain, but he thought it was Dan Fletcher (a married man). Mr. Weaver knew it was not Mr. Miller because he had just left him at the Eagle Hall a few minutes before around nine o'clock p.m. The Eagle Hall was located on Second Street between Santa Fe and Flynn Avenue.

September 1910, Sunday - Miller hunted Mr. Oakes up downtown and took him back to Oakes residence in Miller's buggy when Mabel had one of her sinking spells.

October 1910 - George Parker had occasion to go over to Miller's office and he saw the back door to the back room open and noticed someone was laying on the floor. It was Mabel Oakes. Miller was rubbing her hands and Emmet Nowel was at the side of her, rubbing her arms.

17 October 1910 - The last time Dr. Safford examined Mabel Oakes. Prior to Mabel Oakes death in November, about three weeks, Dr Saffold examined Mabel Oakes. Safford testified in court that Miller ask Dr. Saffold to perform an abortion. Saffold refused.

5 or 6 November 1910 - H. M. Green noticed that Mabel had a very black left eye and the left side of her face was slightly bruised from her eye to her ear with abrasion of the skin between the eye and the ear. Mr. Green testified that he stood in the office doorway and talked to A. C. Grimes and Mr. Miller maybe three or four days before the election during the Fall of 1910.

5-7 November 1910 - Mr. D. R. Frazier testified that he had seen Miss Oakes in Miller's office with a black eye, cheek a few days before the Fall election.

7 November 1910 - Between the hour of twelve and one o'clock, Mr. Charles Wagner spoke with Ms. Oakes as he walked into Miller's office and asked her where Mr. Miller was. Mr. Wagner testified that Miss Oakes raised her face up and looked like she had been crying. Miss Oakes mentioned to him that Mr. Miller was in the rear room.

7 - 8 November 1910 - few days before election (Nov. 8), Mabel Oakes was in Miller's office when A. C. Grimes noticed that Miss Oakes was black along the left side of her face and it ran back to about her ear. She also had a black eye on the left side of her face.

8 November 1910 - George Oakes testified that he did not see his daughter before she went downtown the morning on election day. He only saw her at bedtime.

9 November 1910, Wednesday - Mabel Oakes left home about ten o'clock in the morning and was found dead in a portion of the building in which Miller's office was located about three o'clock in the afternoon.

  • 9:00 a.m. - George Oakes last saw his daughter alive. Mr. Oakes went uptown the morning of 9 November 1910 and did not see his daughter that forenoon.
  • 10:00 a.m. - The last time Carrie saw her daughter.
  • 11:00 a.m. - Mabel was at Miller's office.
  • 10:30 to 11:00 a.m. - George Bell saw N. L. Miller at his office on 9 November 1910.
  • 12:00 p.m. - George Oakes had gone home to dinner a little after he left the Republican headquarters.
  • 12:10 to 12:15 p.m. - S. B. Share testified that he saw Miller in Miller's office about 12:10 to 12:15 p.m.
  • 12:00 to 1:00 p.m. - C. O. "Dick" Green witnessed Justice N. L. Miller around the Old Opera House between 12 & 1 o'clock p.m.
  • 12:00 p.m - E. M. Rauh saw Miller in some time near about twelve o'clock or a few minutes after, at the Republican headquarters.
  • 2:00- 3:00 p.m. - Rauh saw Mr. Miller again as they came down the stairs from the republican headquarters together. Rauh testified that Miller walked across the square to the Old Opera House.
  • 12:30 p.m. - Mr. I. W. Barnhouse testified that he got to town, went in to Crouch's lunch room, on the south side of the square -- feed his horses and ate his dinner and came out of the lunch room between 1:00 o'clock and 1:10p.m.
  • 12:45 p.m. to 1:45 p.m. - James Roller saw N. L. Miller continuously during the hour in front of Jesse Jackson's Cigar Store on the west side of the public square in the city of Alva, Oklahoma, learning the election returns of the election held on the day previous.
  • 1:00 p.m. - George Oakes stated under oath, "I came directly past Mr. Millers Office." When asked how long did you remain there at Miller's office at that time, 1:00p.m., Oakes replied, "It wasn't a minute. I just opened the door and looked in there and closed it again." Oakes testified that the door of the office was unlocked. Oakes just opened it, and did not look into the old opera house. He didn't enter Miller's office. He just opened the door of the office and looked in for a short few seconds to see if Mabel was in there and then closed the door again.
  • 1:00 to 1:25 p.m. - Alice Amis testified that she didn't see anything except Miller's horse tied to a telephone pole. She did notice that the doors leading into the office and the Old Opera House were closed. When she returned from the Post Office, she passed Miller's office and the Old Opera House again maybe around 1:20 and 1:25 p.m. and Miller came out of office.
  • 1:00 - 1:30 p.m. - Mr. Ketchen was in the back part of his building, working from 1:00 to 1:30 until between three and four o'clock. Mr. Ketchen testified that he did not hear any struggle or scuffle in the little triangular room of the opera house that was about fifteen feet west from his place of business where he was working.
  • 1:00 p.m. - Oakes went back uptown and looked for Mabel at Miller's office and testified she wasn't there. He looked or Mabel around the square to northeast side of square at republicans headquarters for an hour and a quarter to hour and a half.
  • 1:30 p.m. - Barnhouse followed Oakes around the square to republican headquarters. Saw Miller there thirty to 45 minutes later.
  • 2:15 -2:30 p.m. - Mr. Barnhouse testified that Miller got to republican headquarters around 2:15 to 2:30 p.m. and stayed about 3/4 of hour or half hour.
  • 2:30 p.m. - Saffold testified that he had received a phone call from Miller on 9 November 1910 about the time the Rock Island train had come to town. Miller told Saffold it was about that girl, and He wanted Saffold to come immediately. Saffold arrived at the time of the call (about two-thirty) -- the time his nurse told him that the Rock Island train came in to town. Saffold based his judgment as to when this occurred on what a nurse told him in regard to the arrival of the Rock Island train. Defense attorneys want this part of testimony described as hearsay.
  • 2:40 to 3:10 p.m. - C. H. Mauntel saw Miller over at republican headquarters. Mauntel testified that Miller left republican headquarters at 3:10 p.m. and headed on bike (wheels) over to Jackson's Cigar store.
  • 3:00 p.m. - Barnhouse and Oakes left republican headquarters.
  • 3:00 p.m. - Sheriff Hugh Martin testified he saw Miller in Miller's office in the old opera house, in Alva, Woods County, Oklahoma, about 3:00 o'clock.
  • After 3:00 p.m. - George Crowell walked over to the opera house and sheriff Martin opened the door and called Crowell in and wanted him to be one of the jurymen and pick other jurymen at the inquest (November 11, 1910.
Warrant Filing (George Oakes files a complaint in writing, under oath, in the county court, to Sheriff Hugh Martin.)

State of Oklahoma, County of Woods: "Whereas, complaint in writing , under oath, has been made in the County Court of said County before the Judge thereof by George W. Oakes and it appearing that there are reasonable grounds for believing that on the 9th day of November, 1910, in Woods County and State of Oklahoma, N. L. Miller, did then and there, willfully, purposely, without authority of law, feloniously, with malice aforethought, and with the premeditated design to effect the death of another human being, to-wit: Mabel Oakes, by means of a scarf which he placed and wound around the neck of her, the said Mabel Oakes choke and strangle her until she died, as was intended by said N. L. Miller that she should do and that therefore by the manner and means aforesaid, at said time and place he the said N. L. Miller did kill and murder her the said Mabel Oakes, contrary to the form of the statute in such case made and provided, and against the peace and dignity of the State of Oklahoma." -- it was received, executed on the 11 Nov. 1910, filed January 31. 1911.

10 November 1910 - Information Filing - State of Oklahoma, County of Woods, vs. N. L. Miller -- "That in the County of Woods, State of Oklahoma, on the 9th day of November 1910, N. L. Miller did then and there, willfully, purposely, without authority of law, feloniously, with malice of aforethought, and with the premeditated design to effect the death of another human being to-wit: Mabel Oakes, by means of a scarf which he the said N. L. Miller then and there held in his hands, which he placed and wound around the neck of her, the said Mabel Oakes, choke and strangle her until she died, as was intended by said N. L. Miller that she should do and that therefore by the manner and means aforesaid, at said time and place he the said N. L. Miller did kill and murder her the said Mabel Oakes." It shows the witnesses for the State: George W. Oakes, Hugh Martin, Dr. Templin, Dr. E. Grantham, Dr. G. N. Bilby, Hugh Martin, George Crowell, Mrs. Carrie Oakes, Dr. Saffold, Dr. Gregg, C. O. Green and Kent Eubank. It was signed and dated November 10, 1910 by in front of the clerk of the county court by George W. Oakes who being of lawful age and first duly sworn on his oath says that he has read and knows the statements and allegations contained in the within information and that the same are true.

10 November 1910 - The following is a list of the coroner's jury impaneled by Judge Lawhon, acting coroner: T. B. Roby, J. T. Herold, G. W. Crowell, R.B. Dugan, C. R. Moore, W. M. Goebel. The jury adjourned until nine o'clock, Thursday morning, November 10, 1910, to await the report of the physicians.

10 November 1910 - Funeral services for Mabel Oakes were held at the Renfrew-Howerton undertaking rooms at three o'clock, 10 November 1910, Thursday afternoon, conducted by the Reverend G. W. McQuiddy.

10 November 1910 - Oklahoma City Times, Thursday, Nov. 10, 1910, frontpage -- News Article - Alva Girl Murdered - One Arrest - Alva, Okla.,"With the finding of the dead body of pretty Mabel Oakes, 23-year-old daughter of a well-to-do family here, in the rear of the old opera house block, with a silk scarf tightly wound about the neck late Wednesday, the most sensational murder in recent months was uncovered. The girl had been employed for several months as a clerk in the office of N. L. Miller, justice of the peace. Miller's office is in the front part of the building in which the body was discovered. The girl had failed to go home for noonday lunch, and late in the afternoon the father had started for Miller's office to ascertain the cause of her absence. He was met at the door by Miller, who, with ashen face, told him he had just discovered the body. The police were immediately notified and Miller was arrested and lodged in jail. Miller denies all knowledge of the crime or that he had ever had improper relations with her. At the inquest Thursday physicians testified that death was due to strangulation."

10 November 1910, Friday - Coroner's Inquest

11 November 1910, Friday - Inquest Being Held - news article - Indications Are That Mabel Oakes Was Cruelly Murdered - "Judge Lawhon impaneled a jury this morning for the purpose of holding an inquest upon the dead body of Mabel Oakes, who yesterday was found in a room at the back end of the old opera house, which is directly connected with the office of N. L. Miller, lying upon her back, with her hands carefully folded across her breast, and with every appearance of having died at peace with mankind. Had not she been found in that little back room, where evidences of midnight revels appeared on every side, no great suspicion would have been aroused. Sheriff Martin immediately took charge of the body, placed Miller under arrest and in jail, and this morning the wheels of retributive justice commenced to turn."

11 November 1910 - Renfrew's Record, Alva, Wds Cty, OK - Nov. 11, 1910 - Tragedy In Old Opera House - news article - " Miller's connection with the affair was so plain that Judge Lawhon told him that he would either set a guard to watch him or send him to jail for safe keeping, and Miller said he preferred to go to jail. His request was granted and Sheriff Hugh Martin placed him behind the bars, where he remains at present.

12 November 1910 - The Daily Oklahoman, Saturday, 12 November 1910, pg. 2, Official Accused of Slaying Girl, Inquest Shows Alva Girl Was Choked to Death With Own Scarf, Evidence is Strong, Married Man - Who Employed Her, is Held as Murderer.

12 November 1910 - Oklahoman News article stated, "Accused to Solve Mystery of Death, Oklahoman article - Alva, Okla., Nov. 12 -- N. L. Miller, the justice of the peace who is in jail charged with the murder of Miss Mabel Oakes, announced today that when he was called to trial he would be able to produce the man responsible for the girl's condition. Miller admits he was in love with the girl and says he intended to get a divorce and marry her. Around the neck of the girl when her body was found was a light scarf which was not wound tightly, but which the coroner's jury says caused her death. The jury found that she was strangled. Miller could easily have removed the scarf had he strangled her with it and few of those in Alva who saw the body believe the girl came to her death in that way."

16 November 1910 - N. L. Miller, justice of the peace, in jail charged with the murder of Mabel Oakes. Miller refused bail, he feared the people of the town would attack him if he appeared on the streets. Miller's bail was fixed at $5,000.

16 November 1910 -- Wichita Beacon headlines: "Justice of Peace Miller Dares Not Leave Jail on Bail and Remains." Alva, Okla., Nov. 16. -- N. L. Miller, justice of the peace, in jail here charged with the murder of Mabel Oakes refused bail, today, saying he feared the people of the town would attack him if he appeared on the streets. Miller's bail was fixed at $5,000.

24 November 1910 - Preliminary hearing scheduled, but postponed to December 1, 1910.

25 November 1910, Friday - "Alva Pioneer" news article stated that the Wichita Beacon news article was without foundation, and a lie on its face. The designing writer was condemned by Alva people. The Pioneer reported to keep the public posted on the procedure of this case, and it was their aim to give a full and true account of the evidence as the testimony is taken. - Alva Man Fears Violence - news article dated 25 Nov. 1910.

30 November 1910, Wednesday - Attorney Moman Pruiett arrived Wednesday and remained a couple of days visiting the family of his father-in-law, Hon. August T. Sniggs. J. N. Tincher (hired by George Oakes) arrives that afternoon.

1 December 1910, Thursday - Preliminary rescheduled for 10 o'clock, Thursday morning before County Judge R. A. Cameron. Serious illness of County Judge Cameron, the preliminary was been postponed to 2:00 p.m. -- Judge Cameron unable because of alleged illness.

2 December 1910 - Filing before R. A. Cameron, County Judge of Woods County, State of Oklahoma. Now on this 2nd day of December, 1910, the case of the State of Oklahoma vs. N. L. Miller, coming on to be heard before the said R. A. Cameron, County Judge, upon Information of the County Attorney, said cause having been continued to this date by agreement of counsel, the following proceedings were had: The defendant N. L. Miller, being present in court in person, and represented by counsel, L. T. Wilson, E. W. Snoddy, and J. P. Grove, waived the reading of the Information, and entered a pleas of not guilty, and waived preliminary examination. Whereupon the Court ordered that the defendant, N. L. Miller, be held in the jail of Woods County, Oklahoma, without bail, to answer the charge contained in said Information, to-wit: Murder in the first degree. signed by R. A. Cameron, County Judge.

16 December 1910 - Paul Grove, Jr., has been appointed a justice of the peace, the vacancy occurring on account of the resignation of N. L. Miller.

6 January 1911 - File and enter Information Oath, certificate and seal Recording Information, Woods County Case #612.

9 January 1911 - County Attorney Claud McCrory resigned as prosecuting attorney when public sentiment had arisen that he was stalling. McCrory had to do one or the other ... resign or prosecute Nelson Miller for the death of Mabel Oakes. McCrory resigned and vanished, with the Law Enforcement League send out detectives to find him at no avail.

12 January 1911 - George W. Oakes (Plaintiff) vs. N. L. Miller & N J Lewellen (defendants) "Abstract of Judgement", $79.92, judgement rendered by I. B. Lawhon, justice of peace, filed 18 January 1911.

21 January 1911 - File and enter affidavit, Oath, certificate and seal, File and enter Praecipe (sic) for subpoena Issuing.

27 January 1911 -- The case was entered on Bar Docket. Assignment of case for Trial.

30 January 1911 - File and enter Returned Subpoena.

6 February 1911 -- Served all of the named witnesses personally, except C. O. Green & Hugh Martin by leaving copy at residence. Enter sheriff's fees - Walter Rambo.

8 February 1911 - Entered arraignment of Defendant. Enter order giving defendant 1 day to plead.

9 February 1911 - File and enter Demurrer to Information. Enter on Motion Docket. Enter order overruling defendants Demurrer to Information. Enter Order giving State permission to endorse names of H. F. Ketcham, S. B. Share, Geo. Bell, Ray Close, Geo. Dexter, Claud McCrory as witnesses for State. File and enter Praecipe for Subpoena Issuing. File and enter Receipt of names of Additional witnesses and list of Witnesses in Chief.

15 February 1911 - File and enter Returned Criminal subpoena served on all witnesses in person, except Ray Close (not found). Enter Sheriff's fees - Walter Rambo.

16 February 1911 - File and enter Returned Subpoena served on Dr. B. W. Safford in person. Enter sheriffs fees - J. T. Lamison, Grant County, Oklahoma.

27 February 1911 -- File and enter petition for Change of Venue, Oath, certificate and seal. File and Notice of Application for Change of Venue. File and enter affidavit of N. L. Miller. File and enter Affidavitt of E. P Weaver, E. Westling, Geo. S. Parker, J. D Scott, J. H. Gilmore, E. d. Drake, J. P. Renfrew, Harry E. Mason, J. G. Bittner, D. C. Green, Benj. Dunning, J. M Free, J. F. Bolte, L. W. Bevis, John Luse, C. J. French, J. W. McWilliams, T. J. Dyer, M. T. Wilson, W. W. Hiatt. Enter Order granting change of Venue to Woodward County.

February 28, 1911 -- Enter arraignment of Defendant and an Order giving defendant one day to plead.

February 29,1911 -- Order overruling defendants Demurrer to Information. There were also witnesses for the State added to the list... H. F. Ketchen, S. B. Share, Geo. Bell, Ray Close, Geo. Dexter, Claud McCrory.

1 March 1911 - Henry L. Noah loaned Nelson & Rachel Miller $300, at 10% per annum.

8 May 1911 - File and enter Praecipe for copy of Information making certified copy of Information.

9 May 1911 - Making transcript and certifying same to District Court of Woodward County, including certificates and seals.

11 May 1911 - Filing Dates for Woodward Appearance Docket - The Woodward County filings begins with the filing of transcript.

12 May 1911 - a complete transcript of all the proceedings including all the pleadings and the information in the case was duly filed in the office of the Clerk of the District Court of Woodward County, State of Oklahoma, together with the order granting the change of venue to the said court of Woodward County.

24 June 1911 - File and enter Order Granting Change of Venue. Recording Order Granting Change of Venue. Making 3 certified copies of Order and sent one to District Clerk Woodward County. Walter Rambo, sheriff of Woods County, received an order granting change of venue.

26 June 1911 - Order granting change of venue.

28 June 1911 - Woods County sheriff, Walter Rambo, executed and delivered defendant Miller to the sheriff of Woodward County, Oklahoma, in the city of Woodward.

1 July 1911 - Filing agreement to continue.

7 August 1911 - Filing of Notice of Hearing.

22 August 1911 - Filed and entered Returned Order Granting Change of Venue. Served by delivering Defendant Miller to Sheriff of Woodward County.

2 September 1911 -- Filing receipt of said N. L. Miller for copy of Information; list of witnesses in Chief; Application to endorse names of additional witnesses; receipt of additional list of witnesses.

4 September 1911 -- There was a drawing from 60 jurymen; issuing summons to draw jury; Filing stated depositions taken by W. M. Bickel, Alva, Oklahoma; Filing of Order to deliver Miller to Woodward County.

5 September 1911 -- Filing of subpoena of Dr. B. W. Saffold.

5 thru 12 September 1911 - State's Rebuttal Witnesses were heard after the Defense produce it's witnesses.

6 September 1911 -- The empanelling of a jury of the peers of the said defendant was begun and completed on the 7th day of September, 1911.

6 - 7 September 1911 - Jury picked to hear the murder case of N. L. Miller. Jurors: H. C. Thompson (foreman), George B. Welty, J. A. Rhudy, Lewis (Louis) M. Philips, E. A. Yeager, Ray (Roy) Halloway, Earl McDowell, M. B. Wallace, J. T. Israel, Harry McGriff, J. A. Hampton, John Chambers.

8 September 1911 -- Swearing fifty-two jurors; swearing twelve witnesses; swearing the empaneled jury and twenty-one witnesses.

12 September 1911 - Instructions to the jury were filed in the District Court of Woodward County, Oklahoma. Filing Instructions, Motion and Special request for instructions. After a full, complete hearing of the evidence in Case #714 and the instructions of the court, the argument of counsel the case was submitted to the jury and the jury found a verdict and brought it into open court.

12 September 1911 - Jurors Verdict was filed in the District Court of Woodward County, Oklahoma

13 September 1911 - a Motion for New Trial was filed in the District Court of Woodward County, State of Oklahoma.File and enter Order served by delivering the body of N. L. Miller to the Sheriff of Woodward County (4 September 1911).

15 September 1911 - Final Judgment and Sentence was filed in the Distrtict Court of Woodward county, Oklahoma. Motion and Arrest of Judgment was filed in the District Court of Woodward County, Oklahoma. Order Extending Time To Prepare and Serve Case Made, upon the application and request of Defendant N. L. Miller, made in open court for an extension of time within which to prepare and serve a case to appeal to the Criminal Court of Appeals of the State of Oklahoma.

18 September 1911 - Defendant filed Application for transcript of Record at County's expense.

26 September 1911 -- Recording Final Judgment and Sentence; Recording Verdict; boarding Prisoner N. Miller.

7 November 1911 - Application for Extension of Time was filed in the District Court of Woodward County, Oklahoma.

19 February 1912 - Petition In Error filed with W. H. L. Campbell, Clerk, In the Criminal Court of Appeals State of Oklahoma), Appeal - No. A-1618, N. L. Miller - Plaintiff in Error vs. The State of Oklahoma, Defendant in Error. Nelson L. Miller's prison for Life began.

15 March - 18 May 1912 - Error From the District Court of Woodward County (filed with W. H. L. Campbell, Clerk,In the Criminal Court of Appeals State of Oklahoma) Appeal - No. A-1618, N. L. Miller - Plaintiff in Error vs. The State of Oklahoma, Defendant in Error.

29 June 1912 - Brief of Plaintiff In Error, signed by charles West, Attorney General - signed by Matson), Appeal - No. A-1618, N. L. Miller - Plaintiff in Error vs. The State of Oklahoma, Defendant in Error.

20 July 1912 - Brief of Defendant in Error (filed with W. H. L. Campbell, Clerk, In the Criminal Court of Appeals State of Oklahoma) Appeal - No. A-1618, N. L. Miller - Plaintiff in Error vs. The State of Oklahoma, Defendant in Error.

6 February 1913 - Motion to Advance On Docket filed with W. H. L. Campbell, Clerk, In the Criminal Court of Appeals State of Oklahoma), Appeal - No. A-1618,N. L. Miller - Plaintiff in Error vs. The State of Oklahoma, Defendant in Error.

7 March 1913 - 17 July 1912 Letter from Sandor J. Vigg, county Attorney To Charles West, Attorney General, Okla. City, OK, Hon. Charles West, Attorney General, Oklahoma City, OK, filed with W. H. L. Campbell, Clerk, In the Criminal Court of Appeals State of Oklahoma Appeal - No. A-1618.

3 May 1913 - Petition For Rehearing filed with W. L. Campbell, Clerk In the Criminal Court of Appeals State of Oklahoma), Appeal - No. A-1618,N. L. Miller - Plaintiff in Error vs. The State of Oklahoma, Defendant in Error.

22 July 1916 - Defendant Nelson Miller makes a voluntary appearance , but reserves until the 1st day of August 1916 in which to plead further in his divorce case.

24 July 1916 - Rachel B. Miller files petition for divorce from Nelson L. Miller. Their four children at this time were Eva & Minta (of age), Lavern (Bert L., 19 years), and George A. Miller (13 years).

4 November 1916 - Journal Entry - Rachel & Nelson Miller's divorce came for hearing and trial. A. G. Sutton represented Rachel Miller. Nelson Miller did not appear either by attorney or himself. Divorce Granted.

9 September 1921 to 9 December 1921 - Nelson Miller's prison card showed: L/A. [What is L/A (Leave of Absence)?]

23 December 1922 to 23 March 1923 - NelsonMiller's prison card showed: L/A.

23 March 1923 to 23 May 1923 - NelsonMiller's prison card showed: L/A.

23 May 1923 to 23 November 1923 - NelsonMiller's prison card showed: L/A.

14 November 1923 - NelsonMiller's prison card showed: Paroled.

18 December 1929 - NelsonMiller's prison card showed: Citizenship paid.
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NW Okie's Distant Craighead Ancestors

Vol 13, Iss 19 Tennessee - Well! I have finally found a connection to the Craighead ancestors that I have been researching, but have NOT found the connection to Nancy Craighead (1757-1867) that married Edward Luttrell.

Distant ancestors of NW Okie (Linda Kay McGill Wagner):

  • Rev. Thomas Craighead (1664 - 1739), relationship to this NW Okie: 2nd great grandfather of husband (Samuel Geddes Craighead) of 2nd great grand aunt (Nancy McGill, daughter of William Nathan McGill, Jr. and Anne Nancy Luttrell).
  • Rev. Alexander Holmes Craighead (1706 - 1766), Son of Rev. Thomas Craighead
  • Capt Robert Craighead (1751 - 1821), Son of Rev. Alexander Holmes Craighead.
  • William CRAIGHEAD (1778 - 1835), Son of Capt Robert Craighead
  • Samuel Geddes CRAIGHEAD (1814 - 1889), Son of William Craighead
  • Nancy MCGILL (1814 - 1898), Wife of Samuel Geddes Craighead
  • Anne Nancy LUTTRELL (1787 - 1860), Mother of Nancy McGill
  • David Milton MCGILL (1808 - 1850), Son of Anne Nancy Luttrell
  • William Pearson MCGILL (1835 - 1918), Son of David Milton McGill
  • William Jacob "Will" MCGILL (1880 - 1959), Son of William Pearson McGill
  • Gene M "Merle" MCGILL (1914 - 1986), Son of William Jacob McGill & Constance Estella Warwick; married Vada Eileen Paris 24 March 1940; Children: Connie Jean, Dorthy Eileen, Linda Kay, Amber Ann.
I am still wondering about Nancy Craighead (1757-1867) that married Edward Luttrell. How does Nancy Craighead fit into the Craighead ancestors? View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

History of McKeever School

Vol 12, Iss 21 McKeever School, Oklahoma - The History of McKeever School, written and researched by Milt Lehr, Professor Emeritus, NWOSU. The Cherokee Outlet of the territory of Oklahoma was opened to settlement by the Land Run of 1893. After securing a homestead, the pioneers' immediate concern was the education of their children. The first schools were often a soddie or log building and later schools were built using clapboard, stucco, of wood and plaster construction.

The one-room school played an important role in educating the children of this state. In 1900 there were 200,000 one-room schools in the United States. In 1897 the Oklahoma Territory had 1,909 organized school districts of which 224 of these school districts with schools meeting an average of 70 days a year. It was not unusual for 40 pupils to attend these schools since farm families were large and each quarter section of land had a family living on it.

Eastside view of McKeever School, 1894Records located in the Woods County Courthouse show that the McKeever school was organized in August 30, 1894, and that its district numbers were both 191 and 23.

School was first held in the dugout home of Mr. and Mrs. Hulet, which was located about one-third of a mile south of the present McKeever school, which is located on the southwest corner of section 24 six miles west of Alva. The dugout home was 12 feet by 18 feet with a dirt floor and was four feet deep into the ground. Sod was laid above the ground two feet deep. The roof was composed of dirt laid over branches and poles.

Click the John McKeever family as written by Dorothy McKeever in 1986 for the Pioneer Footprints Across Woods County history book, pg. 454.

During the 1894-1895 school year, Dick McKeever purchased the Hulet claims and donated the southwest corner of section 24 for a school building.

Maggie Shiel was the first teacher of this school and 23 students were enrolled. Teacher salaries at this time were $20 to $25 per month. By 1902, the salary paid to Nettie Courtner had increased to $35 per month and school was being held for 100 days. The total budget for that year was #311.67, according to Woods County Courthouse records. The value of the school was $600 and other property was valued at $100.

According to a newspaper clipping dated January 29, 1895, and preserved by Harvard and Sue Litton, lifetime residents of a farm home located a short distance north of McKeever school, the first 23 students included Harry Benton, Johnie Benton, Myrtle Cocohm, Glevie Kinney, Mary Kinney, Tomie Kinney, Amon McKeever, Phoebe McKeever, Cora Messmore, Evert Litton, Jim Litton, Thomas Litton, Orwell Shirley, Bertha Smith, Clair Smith, Earl Smith, Melvin Smith, Cora Turner, Bessie Vincent, Dora Wiggins, Della Wiggins, and Gracie Wiggins.

The members of the first school board were Frank Spurgeon, Dale Smith, and Jim Benton. The second term of school was held in a frame box house that was moved to its present site from four or five miles northwest of Alva. This building was a wooden structure 14 feet wide and 28 feet long with a wooden floor made of 1x12 planks. Desks were fashioned from this same kind of wooden boards.

The original building that is standing today was constructed at a cost of $300, which was financed by bonds. All labor was donated by residents of the district except the plastering, which was done by Nick Edwards who was hired to do this work. A. B. Messmore was overseer of the carpentry work. The school bonds were paid off in five years. The American elm trees that encircle the school ground were planted about 1915. The members of the school board at that time were Nate Litton, John Parsons and Clayton Hyde.

The teacher salaries were sometimes paid in cash obtained from donations and some salaries were paid in warrants, which could be cashed at banks for 60 cents on the dollar. Sometimes teachers were paid in sod breaking since most of them owned nearby land or had a claim.

1938 WPA remodelingThe original building underwent extensive remodeling in 1938 when WPA funds were provided by the federal government to modernize school buildings. A basement was constructed a few feet west of the building and it was then moved overonto the completed basement after the anterooms at the front and a coal bin at the back were removed. A few years later, a highline was constructed nearby along Highway 64 and electric lights were added to complete the modernization.

The teachers of McKeever School were as follows:

Maggie Shiel 1894-1895; May Park 1895-1896; A. C. Parsons 1896-1897; Grace McKitrick 1897-1898; Cora Murray 1898-1900; Birdie Vorhies 1900-1901; Nettie Courtner 1901-1902; W. P. Bosserman 1902-1903; W. J. McGill 1903-1904; Phoebe McKeever 1904-1906; Pete Exell 1906-1908; Agnes Murray 1908-1910; Dena Salesman 1910-1911; Hattie Jarred 1911-1912; Frankie Callison 1912-1914; Lester Maddox 1914-1916; Jess Sears 1916-1917; Homer Bloyd 1917-1918; Margie Callison 1918-1920; Myrtle Martin 1920-1921; Lillie Callison 1921-1922; Pearl Martin 1922-1925; Fay Faulkner 1925-1927; Dolores Fuller 1927-1930; Clara Brown 1930-1931; Helen Tallman 1931-1932; Ada Taylor 1932-1933; Josephine Fisher 1933-1937; Hulda Groesbeck 1937-1939; Hazel Smith 1939-1941; Ruth Frazier 1941-1943; Fay McAlpin 1943-1948.

After the opening of the Cherokee Strip, the rapidly expanding rural school system created a demand for trained teachers. By 1897 there were 1,792 organized school districts in the Oklahoma Territory of which 726 districts with 25,858 pupils were interested in seeing the establishment of a normal school in Alva to meet the demand for qualified teachers.

In 1897, after a two-year struggle the
Northwestern Territorial Normal School was authorized by the Oklahoma legislature. Classes were first held in the Congregational Church in Alva until a building later called the Castle on the Hill was constructed.

When Oklahoma became a state in 1907, the school was renamed Northwestern State Normal School (NSN). In 1919 its name was changed to Northwestern State Teachers College (NSTC) and in 1939 it was given the name of Northwestern State College (NSC). Finally, in 1974 it was renamed Northwester Oklahoma State University (NWOSU).

It should be remembered that for most of its history the primary purpose of Northwestern has been the preparation of teachers for schools in this section of Oklahoma.

McKeever school remained in use until 1948 and then served as a community building for several years. In 2000 the school was given to NWOSU by Dean and Patty Nusser, farmer-ranchers, who own the land on which the school stands. Restoration efforts were soon started and the school was moved to its site on the NWOSU campus in the summer of 2001 where it will assume an important role in the preparation of teachers at Northwestern and the education of the public in general to the importance the one-room school played in the education of farm children in early Oklahoma.

[Note by webmaster: There was restoration efforts and repainting going on this summer of 2001, As of this writing, the building is no longer standing on the NE corner of Hwy 64, 6 miles west of Alva. It has been moved to the campus of Northwestern Oklahoma State University, in Alva, OKlahoma. The only reminder that the building existed 6 miles west of Alva on hwy. 64 is the basement left behind. -- LK Wagner] View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Home Comfort Stove Manual & Cookbook

Vol 11, Iss 27 Jos?e says, "Hello! I am from Quebec Canada and I went to your album about home comfort stove because I have one and I make a reaserch to know where it comes from and when it had been made. I can?t download the album because the extension .wbz is not recognize by my apple computer, but I can see that my model, "No. 1904."

Is there a way that I can download it? I search on webshot and find no way to do so. Just interested and curious. I am happy I have seen a bit of your pictures and I laughed of the pictures of snow! Regards, Jos?e L?vesque, eastern township, Qu?bec (2 miles from Vermont border."

Jos?e and others may download the Home comfort Stove book at the following URL: WIRange / Home Comfort MAnual. There are two files and they are each 33mb PDF files. If you do not have a high speed connection, it will take you some time. OR ... you can email Linda at with the information to snail-mail a copy to you.
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Oct. 1932 - New Post Offices Approved For Alva, Pawhuska and Hugo

Vol 11, Iss 9 In the publication, The Oklahoman, dated Oct. 6, 1932, page 1, the headlines read: "State Cities Get Buildings - New Post Offices Approved For Alva, Pawhuska and Hugo."

Washington, Oct. 5, 1932 -- AP -- "Two hundred and twenty-seven cities and towns throughout the country Wednesday were allocated new post offices under the building provisions of the Garner-Wagner relief law.

"The new list, made up almost exclusively of buildings to cost less than $100,000, brought the total so far allotted to be spent for post offices under that bill to $84,872,600, divided among 410 communities.

"Wednesday's announcement said a small number of cities still are under consideration for new buildings, and that as soon as sufficient data is available 'a supplementary statement will be issued authorizing as many of these projects as can be justified.'

"The relief measure provided that where leases expire prior to July 1, 1934, the government must consturct buildings. This class of project predominated in Wednesday's list. Each such is marked by an (*).

"Oklahoma -- *Alva, Pawhuska, Hugo.

"Texas -- *Athens, *Colorado, *Eastland, *Graham, Kerrville, *Lamesa, *Nocona, Vernon, Pecos."

Also this little tidbit of news appeared below the above article: "Supreme Court Offers To Review John Curtis Case" -- Trenton, NJ, Oct. 5, 1932 -- AP -- "The supreme court announced Wednesday it would consider the appeal of John Hughes Curtis, convicted of impending the search for the kidnapped Lindbergh baby, at this term of court if briefs are submitted in 40 days. Otherwise, the court said it would grant a postponement for the term. Curtis's bail of $10,000 is continued automatically."
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1925 Spring & Summer Seniors...

Vol 7, Iss 14 "I found this (Class Roll - Spring & Summer Seniors of Alva High School) when cleaning out a closet. It is printed on the back of my mother Mildred Evans Certifcate." -- Earl

1925 Graduating Class Roll - Alva High, Alva OK:
Mary Armstrong
Everett Bagenstos
Martha Leah Bales
Charles Afton Branson
James E. Bruner
Merle Campbell
John Dee Clarke
Anna Abigail Cleveland
Verna Rosalie Clinkenbeard
Tom Clinkenbeard
Monroe Cobb
Fred L. Crawford
Edna Donley
Florence Esther Enlow
Julia Joy Evans
Mildred Evans
Jesse Dunn Faulkner
Marie Elizabeth Gallon
Oma Etta Gallon
Coral Gardner
Alma Gloe Graves
Eloise Ferguson
Myrtle Lucille Hackett
Fay Etta M. Hazard
Celia Hofer
Glenn Joachim
Lawrence E. Johnson
Agnes Mae Kassik
Julia Kavanaugh
Kenneth Lockhart
Gladys Marian Lamphere
Marjorie C. Lisk
Verda Arle Matteson
Joel Monfort
Gertrude Pardee Myers
Lois Noah
Walter Oakes
Marguerite Geraldine Omey
Emmer Murphy
Milda Mae Porter
Myrtle Louise Rackley
Ethel Lena Read
Thelma R. Sense
Frances Catherine Skelton
Helen N. Snyder
Susie Pauline Terbush
Charles Terbush
Daisy Caroline Wagner
John Bruce Walters
Glen M. Varnum
Juanita Grace Wilkinson

Summer Seniors:
Fhustina Anderson
Jennie Marie Beck
Margaret Estella Beck
Faye H. Faulkner
Ada Jane Hall
Wayne Teague
Bernice C. Snyder
Alfred Kavanaugh
Malcolm Maxwell
Gene Tyree
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Digging Out 2008 & Looking for '66 Goldbugs

Vol 10, Iss 52 December 27, 2008, Saturday, we spent the morning (while the sun finally decided to shine) digging out our driveway so we could get into our home North of Bayfield, in southwest Colorado. We also caught a view of the giant icicles forming off the roof on our back pation.

My oldest son has started a website called "The Pub & Goldbug Review" to network all classes of Alva High Goldbugs. His is the class of '89 and notice that he has connected at least 50 of his "Class of '89 gGoldbugs.

Who wants to help this NW Okie take on the challenge to out do the Class of '89?

I have started the Class of '66 list. We need all the help we can get. So ... Help us out and sign-in with your Class of Alva High Bugs. Join! and see if we can collect more than the class of '89? I need all the help Take on the challenge and see if you can overtake the Class of '89.

Go to THE PUB & GOLDBUG REVIEW -- on the right side of the browser there is a place to put in your graduating AHS Class Year (i.e. 1966, or whatever). Type in your "Name" where it states "Name." Then add your email and click the "Subscribe" box and "Submit" your entry to the Goldbug Review.

Our McWagner Snow Gauge showed a total of 23-1/2 inches on Saturday, December 27, 2008. Comparing that to what they received in the higher elevations around here, we are a foot less on the snow measuring gauge as of December 27, 2008.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! -- NW Okie
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Nosy Horses at Fairvalley, OK

Vol 10, Iss 16 If you drive through Fairvalley, Oklahoma, you will find our "nosy" horses gathering at the gate to check out the contraption that was making a movie of their antics out at Fairvalley.

We are told that Nugget, Maggie & Quoti are loosing their SW Colorado Winter coats for their Spring NW Oklahoma attire. AND... the Oklahoma wind is swishing thru their manes and tails. Thanks to Robert L. Wagner for the Horsesmovie clip.

Thanks to Nugget, Maggie & Quoti for making an appearance. You can also see the "Horse Movie" over at our Mac website. -- NW Okie
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March Winds

Vol 9, Iss 9 [Transcribed by OkieLegacy & LK McGill Wagner from Scott Cummins book, "Musings of the Pilgrim Bard," page 13.]

When the old house keeps a rockin',
Like as if 'twas goin' to fall;
And the pebbles keep a knockin' --
Knockin' 'gainst the fragile wall,
Sets a tired feller thinkin'
Of fell goblin, wraith or fiend,
Fancy into fancy linkin',
Yet 'tis nothin' but the wind;
Roar, roar, rattle door,
Through each cranny in the floor.
Through each crack and crevice small,
Where a chigger scarce could crawl,
Every seam 'tis sure to find,
O beshrew, the bleak March wind.
All day long, to feed the critters,
I have tried my level best;
Tears my fodder into fritters.
Splits the endgate of my vest;
Almost sets a feller cussin',
Yet to well I understand,
If I ope' my mouth a fussin'
'Twould soon fill with dust and sand;
Shriek, Shriek, creak, creak --
Seven long days in a week;
Though my language seem unkind,
Devil take the bleak March wind.
Now adieu, my lamp burns dimly,
Sleep and rest I needs must try;
Let the roaring round my chimney
Be a soothing lullaby.
This my pray'r before undressin,
Hopeless pray'r with pathos filled,
That the wind may cease caressin'
Nature, and a while be still'd;
Scream, scream, while I dream
'Till the sun with lurid gleam
Wakes me to resume the fight
With the hurricanish sprite,
Respite body, respite mind,
From the raging of the wind.
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For The Record: OkieLegacy Ezine Format

Vol 8, Iss 35 "I still like the original version of your newsletter because I don't have to keep clicking to read the week's news." -- Roy

"My vote is still for the original format... the tab format took 16 clicks to record the entire issue for the BalmerCollections archives! For wrists with arthritis, that is a lot of extra painful "clicking"!! Just thought you'd like to know." -- Rosalea

OkieLegacy Encouragement.. "Dear Ms. Wagner: You want to know something? I don't know you personally; but many others and I included think you are the best. I can't wait to see what is in the next issue. Sincerely." -- Rocky Harris
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Vol 6, Iss 3 Splashes-Pigeon's Gift - 'I noticed the picture of the Wagner men playing their guitars in your Christmas Edition. You may like this story about a guitar it took me a long time to identify. I enjoy your magazine so much." -- Bill Barker View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Greetings, Alva High Goldbugs...

Vol 8, Iss 25 "The Class of '53 now has a website - - Hopefully, we can remember the address. It has reunion information (in case you can't remember where you put the one you got in the mail), pictures of the 50th and a whole page of pictures that might look familiar to you and other info.

Through a page my daughter found while she was tutoring me on computers, I've been in touch with a woman who has a page of pioneer stories, history, memories, etc of Alva and the surrounding area. She listed our missing members in her newsletter that was sent out Saturday night, and by noon Sunday we had Bob Shoemaker's address in Lubbock (TX) and will have Robert Shoemaker's address in a few days. We'll get mailings out to them. She will also put a link on her pages to our website (SEE 2000 AHS Goldbug Reunion Aftermath). In her newsletter, she has the history of the Runnymede Hotel from it's construction to it's present day renovation. There's a link to her site on our Goldbug site. It's under Goldbugs link - Northwest Oklahoma History .... Her name is Linda McGill Wagner.

Incidentally, by 9:45, Sunday morning, I had heard from the son of one of the gas company employees who lived 1/2 block from us. The internet really is amazing! Hopefully, we'll hear from others. We're only missing 6 of those who were at AHS (Alva High) our senior year, and Stanley Westfall who started in first grade and was with us for many years. He's still on the class list, but we haven't located him.

You have probably heard by now that Rita Mae Cox McMurphy passed away a few weeks ago. Rose Darr Elmore has gone through some serious heart problems and complications. Hopefully, she will be started rehab in the next few weeks. Glad to hear that Don Devine is better than he was when we had our 50th.

New email addresses that weren't on the earlier info are for Larry Johnson - and Leta Jo Millege Sparkman - You may notice Janet Woodward Holland email - (my old ones are still good). We can have a lot more email addresses using as the address. Perhaps you know someone who gets their mail on their children's computer or the library. If they just let me know, I can add them to this address. It won't hold a lot of mail, but it might work for some people.

Don't forget to write Joni on what's happening in your life and send a more or less recent picture - anything in the last 10-15 years will do - digital or snail mail a print will be fine. We'll be getting together in mid-July to put the directories together - with pictures if people send them to Joni.

SHOW UPDATE - Lost in the 50's is now a morning show. The Platters will be appearing in the show. There'll be lots of that good old music from the 50's. See you in Branson (Missouri), and please send me any suggestions, problems, additions, ideas, etc for the website. It's ours -- so please feel free to contribute to it - pictures, websites, should we have a blog?, etc. See you Branson." -- Janet View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

The Rest of the Story...

Vol 8, Iss 25 Father's Day Memories by K. Updike... "Hello Ms. Wagner, I'm Kenneth Updike. Dale told me he sent you the article I had written about my Dad. I appreciate you putting it in your "Okie Legacy". I told Dale, I wrote this several years back. Cant remember when. I started writing my memoirs "My Ramblins" back in 1987 and add to them as I recall things that have happened in my life. Thank you again for publishing my article. My Dad had many friends, young and old. Maybe someone will see this who knew him." (Ken Updike graduated in Anadarko, Oklahoma in 1951.)

Southwest Colorado Tomatoes... "the tomatoes here in OKC & Shawnee-Tecumseh area are dropping their blooms because of the heat. We had some good rain yesterday & Friday perhaps they will start growing instead of dropping their blooms. My mother's yellow crook neck squash is going wild & being eaten hardily."

July, 1935 News - Nancy Ruth Farris... "My father worked for Cities Service Gas for 42-years, and we moved a good bit while I was growing up. I see that 71-years or so ago Nancy Ruth Farris had a birthday party in Alva, OK. I also see that I was one of the attendees. We only lived in Alva for a couple of years so the only other names listed that I remember is my brother, John, and a neighbor, Georgia Ann Redman." -- Robert Dean Beu
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Calling ALL Alva High (Gold) Bugs

Vol 10, Iss 52 "I have a lot of programming done on the navigation, but I still need to develop the comment submission, BugNet submission, and the Comments viewing area. I should be done before Christmas.

This project is to help serve as a refresher to web programming before my advanced web programming class this Spring. Let me know what you think so far.

The comments are moderated, but I added one more option. If you click on the group number at the left and then click on a person?s name link, you can send a private message (not moderated or public). I have not updated the member profile area where they can edit info and view message yet though. I am working on the comment display area.

I need a graphic designer to come up with a new modern goldbug logo. Thanks." -- Mike Wagner - Email:
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Canadian (Texas) Red Hats...

Vol 6, Iss 4 "These Red Hats are from Canadian, Tx, our home for 25 years. Coming down the staircase: Sherry Wagner, ?, ?, Mary Lynn Shaffer, Charlotte Schaef, Nettie Pickens, Rilla Rhea, Yvonne Moore, Delynn Dunn and Shirlene Vines. Photo #2 -- Photo #3 -- Photo #4" -- Sherry View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

HURDT Genealogy...

Vol 7, Iss 26 "Doing research on my family tree. We might be related in some way. My maidern name is HURDT and my Aunt also did some research and we have WAGNERs in the family. The spelling of my maiden name is with a d. (Hurdt) I have been told that they added the t later. If you want to contact me, please feel free to. Thank you." -- Jackie - EMAIL: View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Camels In Waynoka

Vol 9, Iss 39 Camels In Waynoka... "Yes, there was a camel at Little Sahara State Park by the name of Gracie (I believe) In the early 60''s a low-budget carnival came through Alva and went broke. Grace Ward Smith was the Chamber of Commerce president at the time and she and other city leaders bought the animals. I don''t know those details, but all of a sudden little old Alva had a zoo. A lion, bear, camel and a bunch of monkeys. Alva quickly built cages for the animals and it was quit a tourist draw. Grace Ward Smith talked Waynoka, Ok into taking the camel since that city was only a few miles from the dunes. Waynoka built Gracie (the camel, not Mrs. Smith) a shelter there where she lived until she died. The above rememberence comes with a disclaimer: That all happened about 45 years and a persons recall does dim over time, so don''t bet the farm on what I've said." -- Marvin

Camels In Waynoka... "For several years Waynoka hamcwagner.d a Christmas Nativity program at the Little Sahara, complete with camels, shepherds, a speaker system, spotlights and so on. I was kind of a "drive-in" type setting and attracted several hundred. My best guess on the time frame would be late fifties through early sixties. I remember going as a kid with my parents several years." -- Edward
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Woods County Borders In 1906

Vol 8, Iss 33 "Linda, I have contacted Donna. Thanks for the message. In talking to Donna and questions from others I beleive the attached Map may be helpful to some of your readers." -- Earl Fugit

[EDITORS NOTE: The dark bold, black lines inked on this map show what the Woods County (M county) borders of 1906 were before statehood in 1907. -- LK McGill Wagner]
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Athlete's Foot Times Rebirth...

Vol 7, Iss 32 Athlete's Foot Times is making it's comeback. This time from the West Texas plains. It is still moderated by that somewhat famous JockReport, Editor-in-Chief. AND... starring The Commish and Coach Wagner of the Reddog Roughers. It's all in Fun and about "Fantasy Football." Stay tuned in and subscribe to this unique sports minded newsletter. To receive Email updates Click HERE. View/Write Comments (count 1)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Businesses In Alva, Okla. - May, 1947...

Vol 7, Iss 18 Some of you out there might remember some memories of some of these businesses that could be found in the Alva (Oklahoma) area, around May 1947:

  • Rialto Cafe
  • Tony's Cafe
  • Babcock's Cafe
  • Coffman's Cafe
  • Wright's Cafe
  • Shorty's Cafe
  • The National Farm Loan Ass'n of Alva
  • Schaefer-Doolin Mortgage Co.
  • Alva Building & Loan Ass'n
  • Fred J. Fash, Abstractor
  • Alva State Bank
  • Central National
  • Goodrich Plumbing Co.
  • The Railways Ice Co.
  • Home Electric & Appliance
  • Stephenson-Traverse Clinic
  • F. C. Green's Osteopathic Hospital
  • Dr. W. S. Walcott, Veternarian
  • Brunsteter Motor Co.
  • Ticer Equipment Co.
  • Bittner's Tractor & Implement Service
  • Farmer's Co-Operative Association
  • W. B. Johnston Grain Co.
  • Harry's Body & Fender Works
  • Knox Auto Store
  • E. A. Greford Motor Co.
  • Couch Auto Repair Shop
  • Moore & White Oil Co.
  • Alva, Tire & Supply
  • Continental Oil Co.
  • Chick's Auto Service
  • Oklahoma Tire & Supply
  • Wnninger Motor Supply
  • Marcum & Marcum
  • Devery Implement Co.
  • Paul & Sons Implement Co.
  • Ridgway-Nash
  • Speery & Weathers Imp. Co.
  • Bloyd Implement Co.
  • Deere Brothers
  • A. C. Houston Lumber Co.
  • Brown & Brown
  • Gordon's Paint & Wallpaper
  • McClain Brothers
  • City Cleaners
  • Hillcrest Dairy
  • Anthony's
  • Runnymede Hotel
  • Carmel Corn Shop
  • Courtest Cab Co.
  • Deluxe Courts
  • Snider's Cigar Store
  • Jett Mercantile Co.
  • Ferguson Laundry
  • Grayson Laundry
  • Monfort Jewelry
  • Monfort Drug
  • Powder Puff Beauty Shoppe
  • Louise's Beauty Shop
  • Belle's Beauty Shop
  • Wagner Grocery
  • Double 'B' Grocery
  • Anthony Wholesale Grocery Co.
  • East Side Grocery
  • Groceteria
  • Stiles-Howerton Funeral Home
  • C. E. Loomis Furniture
  • Cummings Furniture & Transfer Co.
  • Colony Furniture Co.
  • McGill Bros. Furniture
  • Shafer Radio Service
  • Kirkbride & Cutter (Auctioneers & Real Estate)
  • W. E. Lane Insurance Co.
  • G. L. McClure Loans & Insurance
  • Kent W. Johnson Insurance
  • Alvin Paris Insurance
  • Haworth Insurance
  • Zenith Gas Co.
  • Warrick's
  • Alva Roller Mills
  • Bird Pontiac Sales & Service
  • Munson Hatchery
  • Dr. Pepper Bottling Co.
  • Dimitri Kosmena Studio
  • Rialto, Ritz, Ranger Theatre
  • Alva Office Supply
  • Sneary & Kline
  • Alva Monument Works
  • W. W. Starr Lbr. Co.
  • Wood-Appleman Home & Electrical Appliances
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    Calling All '89 AHS Goldbugs

    Vol 10, Iss 50 "My high school class is currently planning their 20th reunion.

    The website idea was to incorporate something similar to what we did with the AmeriCorps*VISTA. 35th anniversary. There was a place where anyone could submit alumni info making a contest for the most people found for the reunion. I thought it might be a good upgrade to your goldbug section on" -- Mike Wagner, class of '89 - Email:
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    L. A. Wagner Cash Grocery - Alva, OK

    Vol 10, Iss 9 "The grocery store west of Snyders was the L.A. Wagner Cash Grocery. If you look closely you can still make out the name at the top of the building. Also, I remember getting shoes at Warricks in the early 50''s. They sold Red Goose children's shoes." -- Edward Lyon - Email: -- OkieLegacy Comment
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    Encoding Your Browser...

    Vol 8, Iss 3 My Gmail (webmail collected through the IE browser, on PC computer) was suppressing the line breaks in the OkieLegacy email. I did some searching in Gmail's Help section and find the following information:

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    Col. Kirkbride's Peanut Brittle Legacy

    Vol 10, Iss 52 Fred Neuman's Boys choir tradition of making and selling peanut brittle makes news in Iowa. - TV

    Another NW Okie has been spreading Col. Kirkbride's famous peanut brittle recipe in SW Colorado this holiday. NW Okie has printed out the history and story of Col. Kirkbride, "Candy Bob," recipe for large batches of peanut brittle that he started making for the youngsters in norhwest Oklahoma during WWII. See recipe and history below:

    Col. Bob ?Candy Bob? Kirkbride Peanut Brittle
    This peanut brittle came from Col. Bob Kirkbride?s recipe that he used back in northwest Oklahoma during the 2nd World War when sugar and other groceries were rationed. Candy Bob would make big batches of candy (peanut brittle & taffy) for the children. Colonel Bob Kirkbride's recipe for peanut brittle as given to Fred Neuman of the Neuman?s Boys Choir, in Alva, Oklahoma. Fred and the Boys Choir would make thousands of pounds over the last 50 years to raise money for the boys choir.

    Col. Kirkbride?s Original Recipe
    In a large (3 gal or larger) cast aluminum kettle add: 5 lb raw peanuts; 5 lb sugar; 2-32-oz bottles Griffins Corn Syrup; 1/4 cup water. On a large burner at full blast bring the sugar-peanut mixture to 287 degrees (hard crack stage) stirring constantly with a wood paddle. Take the kettle off the fire and immediately add the following pre-prepared ingredients: 1/4 cup vanilla (the real stuff from Mexico); 2/3 cup baking soda; 1/2 stick real butter. Mix the ingredients with a paint mixer in an elecric drill for about 5-10 seconds. The mixture will foam up to several times its volume. Pour a 3 to 4-in. wide string from the kettle onto a strip of aluminum foil about 15-ft. long. Quickly trowel the mixture with a Pam-coated mason's trowel to one peanut thick. The fewer passes with the trowel the better. Let sit until cool then break up into pieces. Makes about 15 lb.

    Smaller Version of Candy Bob?s Peanut Brittle - from NW Okie?s Mother?s recipe file:

    1 Cup hot water
    1 Cup White Karo syrup
    2 Cups Sugar
    2 Cups Raw Peanuts

    Mix into a ball and set aside:
    2 Tbsp. Real Butter
    2 tsp. Baking Soda
    ? tsp. Salt
    1 tsp. vanilla

    Mix butter, baking soda, salt & vanilla in to a ball and set aside. Mix Karo in hot water and add to sugar in heavy pan. Cook over high heat until boiling. Add peanuts and cook to hard crack (290 degrees). Quickly, but thoroughly, stir in butter, soda, salt & vanilla mixture. Quickly pour and spread evenly on buttered aluminum foil that you have laid out on your counter top. Using a buttered spatula or spreader to one peanut thickness. Buttering the aluminum foil and spatula helps keep the brittle from sticking to the foil and spreader. Let Cool! Break into pieces.

    Happy Holidays!
    David & Linda McGill Wagner & The Pugs (Duchess & Sadie)
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    Let Us NOT Forget New Jersey

    Vol 7, Iss 11 "I know you are into Oklahoma lore, but if you are going to quote Thomas Edison in your new news letter format as the Wizard of Menlo Park, you should include Menlo Park, New Jersey. That's David's (another WAGNER) birth state. (Little old New Jersey doesn't have many other things to be proud of, after all.)" -- Lou Wagner View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    Bull Fights of Alva, OK

    Vol 10, Iss 12 "A little known fact about Alva that I think folks would find interesting. You may have published this information yourself or included a contributor's recollection in an earlier e-zine, if so disregard, but if not you might ask your readers if they remember the Alva bull-fights.

    My grandparents, Lee and Gracie Wagner, lived on Ridgeway Road (only a RR at the time) about a quarter of a mile north of highway 64. The rodeo arena was located where Panhandle Eastern's office building now sets. The years--late 40`s early 50`s. Grandmother Wagner was a huge rodeo fan, being raised on her parents ranch/farm five miles west of Avard, the second oldest of a family with 10 boys. The Greer family broke and trained a lot of horses, so Gracie came by a love for the sport early.

    While staying with my grandparents one afternoon Gracie mentioned that there was going to be a bull-fight that afternoon. Not knowing what a bull-fight was I climbed a tall cedar and could barely see what I believed to be the event. I remember dust mostly and seeing someone close to the bull kicking up the dust, but not much more. Later Granny, as I called her, said that Kenner shut the bull-fight down, Kenner (Ken Greer) was one of her brothers and sheriff of Woods County at the time, because bull-fighting was illegal in Oklahoma.

    I would like to know if there are others that might recall more specific information, such as how many occured, how often, who sponsored the event??" -- Marvin W.
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    1944 - Herb Gold Says

    Vol 10, Iss 17 In Vol. 4, No. 12 of the Woods County News, dated July 20, 1944, on the front page under the heading, "Herb Gold Says," we learn lots of goings on in the Nortwestern community of Woods County and Alva, Oklahoma. Who was Herb Gold, anyway?

    Herb Gold Says... The first paragraph began, "A Shower, accompanied by strong wind, struck Alva Sunday night. The park was littered with branches broken from the trees."

    It goes on to state, "Radio Reports this Monday morn is that Russian troops are on German soil in the Suqalki district of East Prussia."

    "Martin and Max Hall of Waynoka, brothers in the armed services, recently met unexpectedly in France after several months out of touch with one another.

    "Major Floyd Welch visited his parents, Mr. and Mrs. George Welch, Saturday evening and Sunday.

    "J. J. Hood has a letter from his son, Capt. Robert Hood, saying he is about to get a 30-day furlough but hopes that he will be allowed to return to the fighting front rather than being stuck on to a training job. bob says flying on the fighting front is less dangerous.

    "Lt. Craig Barker of Arkansas City is reported missing in action over France. The young flyer is a grandson of former county Commissioner Will H. Barker of Waynoka. His father is the original "Tire Bill" of the tire repair service in this area, having featured that trade name for 30 years. It is hoped that Craig landed safely.

    "Two former residents of this area passed from mortal realm last week L. S. (Solomon) Cott died at Eugene, Ore., The body was returned to Alva for interment. He was a cousin of Mrs. Frank Hatfield and while living here owned a farm two miles north of Alva.

    "Earl Gore died at Albuquerque, where he had been railroading for many years. he was a brother of Mrs. Willard Dunning and son-in-law of Steve Stech.

    "Hal Clinkenbeard and family are visiting at the parental home during his vacation. He is in the Railway mail Service on a run between memphis and McAlester. In a chat with Hal, his memory harked back to the time when we were dispensing gas and oil for Dunn Wilkinson and he plied me with questions regarding the whereabouts of Olin and Phylllis chase and Merle Lewellen. He also brought me the good news that his father was well enough Monday to be brought down town a little while Monday.

    "Ran on to my old friend Ed Winterburg of Carmen last midweek. he had come from the Masonic home at Guthrie to vote and naturally had to visit his friends in Alva.

    Also met my friend Raymond Pugh, formerly of Lookout; but now residing about 30 miles south of Ft. Smith in Eastern Oklahoma. He told me that area used to grow much cotton but is turning to truck farming, dairying and poultry. Raymond has a bunch of good milch cows.

    "Elbert Ernest was down from Wichita sunday eve; his first day off since he became a guard in a war production plant six months ago. Elbert says his work isn't hard; but he is constantly on his feet and going for eight hours at night. He was headed for the ranch when he espied me and stop to say "hello."

    "Ezra Blackmon was in from the Salt Plains on business Tuesday.

    Mr. and Mrs. W. E. Shaw of Ponca city are visiting their daughter and son-in-law Mr. and Mrs. Harry Webb near Hardtner. Last Sunday Mr. and mrs. Shaw celebrated their 63 wedding anniversary. they received many visitors on this occasion at the Webb home. They are Woods county pioneers, having homesteaded southeast of Capron and have a host of friends in this area who appreciate and love them. The writer joins with these friends in felicitating the dear old couple on this happy and unusual attainment. may the good Lord vouchsafe them yet many more happy returns of the day.

    "Theo Wagner informs me that the storm sunday night wrecked his garage and damaged the barn on the Karge place. As a good landlord he has some repairing to do. The grove on the place was also badly mauled by the windstorm.

    "I saw herman rink out on the street sunday, the first time since he shot himself in the left leg six months ago. Still hobbling painfully on crutches. The bullet shattered the bone, hence the wound is slow in healing. Herman told me that nothing would suit him better than to be whole and sound again and able to help Aaron doctor in the iron yard.

    "Roy Graves of Hardtner, was a business visitor in Alva Tuesday. he told me that his town is booming with everyone having plenty of money. Most farmers have their plowing done.

    "Will Derrick, former Woods and Barber county stockman, was in Alva Wednesday on business and visiting friends. he now has a ranch in the Flint Hills near Eureka. Will was in poor health when he left here ten years ago, but has since fully recovered from his ailment, and looks twenty years younger than the last time I saw him. Met him this morning at breakfast talking cattle and race horses a=with acquaintances.

    "Elmer Fraker of Mangum, a candidate for U. S. Senator in the Primary, is a former Woods county man. His parents homesteaded about three miles east of Dacoma. Fraker attended College here and taught school in Woods and Alfalfa counties. I read in the papers that Chief Justice Corn of the Supreme court has appointed him to membership on the pardon and parole board, created by constitutional amendment in the recent primary election.

    "First District Demos nominated an Indian of famous lineage for congress to succeed Wes Disney. Dennis Busyhead's grandfather was chief of the Cherokee Nation, and his great grandfather was Chief Justice, which reminds me that Ed Thomas who worked here for the O. G. and E. is a cousin of the nominee. His mother was a Bushyhead.

    "One of the Most satisfying results of the primary election is the nomination of W. J. Oten for U. S. Senator. What a relief that the mass of rubberstamps, Tories and F=freaks is discorded and we've named a man, whose soul is his own and his heart is in, for and with Oklahoma.

    "The acquaintances Mr. Otjen made in the campaign two years ago aided his race materially, they being imprest with his quiet demeanor and the logic of his talks. Okla. Reps. did a good days' work in nominating him for the Senate.

    "Anti New Dealers proclaim that the farmers are not entitled to any more government subsidies. I'll agree that with good crops at present prices we could well dispense with the New Deal props and crutches. They've learnt a lot about farming in the last twelve years. They've learnt the value of summer fallowing and resting the ground for a season. They've learnt the worth of deep tillage, terracing , cover crops, etc. They can now afford to pay for building farm ponds, sowing alfalfa and clover and making other improvements.

    "But yet prices of grain, beef and milk are below parity compared with what the farmer must byy. The returns on his investment and his work don't measure up with the wages of organized lav=bor; they don't even come within sight of the profits of big corporations in war work. If the crutches are not needed at present, they should be put away safely for possible future. If Morgan and Mellon, Rockefeller and DuPont can acquire enough "rubberstamps" we may experience another something like what happened in 1929. They are already talking of easing the income tax by one half in the high brackets and enacting a Sales Tax to enable the "Old Age Pensioners" to help pay off the National Debt.

    "A big ado is being made over organized labor taking an active part in the campaign. I deem this activity a good omen for our country. When citizens think, inform themselves, watch and act, the country will not be overrun and robbed by thieves, big or small. Only when the citizenship become lethargic, or is prevented as in the south from performing its duty, is the Nation in danger of becoming a robbers roost.

    "Labor's interest in the election is a healthful sign, but past performances of some of its bosses menace both the welfare of labor and the well being of the country. The organized employers and plutocrats are also taking an interest in the campaign; spending a lot of money in an effort to shape the election to their liking and for their benefit. Why not channel the activities of both outfits to a safe course thru a law licensing both labor unions and trade associations and making them file annual reports of money collected and how disbursed? such a law has been talked about for years; but never enacted for fear it would embarrass the trade associations.

    "That big business is really determined to discourage all "progressives" in this campaign is shown in the treatment of Wendell Willkie by the New York delegation at the Rep. convention. Heretofore it was customary to invite the previous standard bearers of the party to attend the convention with the delegation from his home State. The New york bunch said in effect, "Let Willkie go to hell." They didn't want anyone with modern ideas in the crowd....."
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    Major County, Oklahoma Ghost Town - Phroso...

    Vol 7, Iss 50 In Major County, Sec. 21,Twp 21N, Rge15WIM, 1 mile north, 19 miles west of Fairview, was the community (hamlet) of Phroso. On September 19, 1900 thru May 29, 1937 a post office was established.

    The Ghost Towns of Oklahoma by John W. Morris describes Phroso as a somewhat typical community like many other numerous hamlets that developed in the dryer and rougher western part of the Cherokee Outlet.

    It was soon after the Outlet was opened for settlement, that a small store was started. The area had no roads, and transportation, either on horseback or in a horse or ox-drawn vehicle, was slow going. The store prospered and expanded as those living in the vicinity traded there because of the difficulty of getting to a larger lace. Other businesses were attracted, accordingly. Soon a blacksmith shop had located nearby, and in 1900 a post office was located at the site. By 1905 a second blacksmith, a doctor who also started a drugstore, a shoe and boot maker, and a livestock dealer made their headquarters in Phroso. A few farmers built homes near the hamlet. A school was organized and a church started. In 1908 Phroso had a population of about sixty persons.

    With the changing economic conditions and the technological advances since the late 1920s, plus the movement of population from rural to urban areas, hamlets like Phroso have disappeared. Much of the land formerly in crops has reverted to pasture. There is no longer a need for the store or the garage that eventually replaced the blacksmith shop. What does remain of Phroso? Does anyone out there have some recent digital photographs to share with us ALL out there? SEND your jpg files to Linda - Email: View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    Inquiry: William Wiley Guinn

    Vol 10, Iss 46 Dear Mrs. Wagner, I love your Paristimes Pioneers Gwin/Guinn Coat of Arms webpage! Thank you for posting that information about the origin of the Guinn name!

    I'm sure you get MANY requests from family historians but am hoping you won't mind one more from our family. We are trying to find the names of the parents and ancestors of my husband's great-great-grandfather William Wiley Guinn. Here is the information about him:

    * William Wiley Guinn was born on 25 Dec 1834 in either Mississippi or Alabama (probably Mississippi).

    * He was married to Nancy Emily Dunlap (1837 TN - 1918 AR) in about 1865 in probably Marion Township, Drew County, Arkansas.

    * He died on 4 Sep 1902, probably in Saline Township, Drew County, Arkansas.

    * He and his wife are buried in Rough and Ready Cemetery in Monticello, Drew County, Arkansas (Find a grave).

    * His children were: Elminia/Emeline E. Guinn, John F.M. Guinn, James R.R. Guinn, Samuel L. Guinn, Susan B. Guinn, William Jefferson Guinn**, Alonzo N. Guinn.

    ** My husband descends through William Jefferson Guinn.

    Thanks for any help or direction you might be able to give us! Also, thanks again for your family history webpages!" -- Kathryn, Virginia View/Write Comments (count 1)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    Return of the NW Oklahoma Cardinal

    Vol 10, Iss 10 Robert L. Wagner compiled this video & music of a cardinal that frequents his backyard every year in northwest Oklahoma around this time of year.
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    NWOSU's New Parking Lot & Green Space

    Vol 9, Iss 16 "Here's one of a half-dozen photos I took today of the paving work on the new parking lot at NWOSU in Alva, on the site of the former OKLAHOMA HALL. We're anxious for the lot to be completed and relieve some of the overcrowding in other parking areas on campus. This area is bounded on the west and north perimeters with 'old-fashioned' street lamps along the sidewalks. The 'green space' is being planted with new shrubbery, but it not yet completed. I've not heard an official 'opening date.'" -- Rod M. - Rod Murrow's Flickr site

    [Editor's Note: Photo on the left, above was taken by Robert L. Wagner, April 21, 2007, Alva, OK. For a slideshow of NWOSU's Green Park, you can it over at our OkieLegacy Podcasts. Don't forget to click over to Rod Murrow's flickr site for more photos!] View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    March, 1938 - A Cappella Choir...

    Vol 7, Iss 15 The A Cappella Choir was organized in 1929 by E. B. L. Hardy, the conductor in 1938. It was the earliest collegiate organization f its kind in Oklahoma. The first of its annual tours was made in March, 1929. The Choir was in its tenth sesson, and had made steady progress in musical accomplishment. It had taken its place as one of the finest singing groups of the entire Southwest, receiving much praise for its precision, unity of interpretation, purity of tone and skill in legato singing. Professor Hardy, leader of the choir, was a skilled choral conductor, and was esteemed as an authority on the interpretation of the various choral styles. The repertoire of the Choir included selections from early church and Russian liturgical music as well as Negro spirituals and modern English and American sacred and secular part songs. The Male Quartet and the Ladies Trio, which appeared often in conjunction with the Choir, offered lighter selections as well as standard music classics. The touring Choir consisted of forty-five voices chosen from the entire membership. This is a PDF file of A Cappella Choir, March, 1938 Program. It was the Tenth Annual Tour of the A Cappella Choir of Northwestern State Teachers' College, Alva, Oklahoma. It was conducted by E. B. L. Hardy. Soloists: Miss Margery Smith, pianist; Prof. W. F. Deusinger, violinist; Mr. Edward Leighton, flutist.
    A Cappella Choir Officers: Floyd Carpenter, pres.; Gerna Lee Stambaugh, sec; Edward Leighton, bus. manager; John McDaniel, Charles Mitchell, transportation managers; Marjorie Rodkey, wardrobe manager; Mildred Marie George, librarian; Mrs. E. B. L. Hardy, sponsor.
    Sopranos: Phyllis Card, Doreen Cates, Edith Conrad, Bonita Davis, Esther Dennis, Pauline Dennis, Lodena Ellison, Willa Mae Fox, Helene Fuller, Mildred Marie George, Faye Huff, Leta Ellen McDonald, Francis Norman, Ava Poole, Gerna Lee Stambaugh, Idell Taylor, Mildred Thompson, Agnes Torrance, Ruby Wright, Ruth Yeoman
    Mezzos & Contraltos: Ollie Bowers, Waneta Bristow, Marguerite Craig, Margery martin, Dorothy Oblander, Sadie Pope, Irene REstine, Marjorie Rodkey, Mary Beth Shearer, Margery Smith, Lois White, Betty Wright
    Tenors: Jeff Bower, Lewis Cleveland, Jay Davis, Scott Harmon, Lawson Lee, Edward Leighton, Lewis Wayne, Otho McGuffee, Charles Marsh, Charles Mitchell, Doyle Presnall, Du Mars Seeger
    Baritones & Basses: James Barron, Cecil Beck, Jack Blackwell, Floyd Carpenter, Ted Clothier, Floyd Darr, Herman Ging, Donald Harvey, Gideon LaPlante, John McDaniel, Blaire Nelson, Victor POwers, Wilbert Ridgway, Harry Wagner
    Ladies Trion: Mildred Marie George, Gerna Lee Stambaugh, Ollie Bowers. Male Quartet: Otho McGuffee, John McDaniel, Floyd Carpenter, Herman Ging. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    OkieLegacy Guestbook

    Vol 9, Iss 10 Great-Grandmother Klanke... "My great grandmother came to U.S. on the ship, Weser when she was only 16 years old and by herself. I knew her when she passed when I was 6. She was a very hardy woman. Her name was Charlotte Louise Klanke and she came from Germany." -- Judy Stone - Email:

    Daughter of Chenault... "I am Nathan B. Chenault's daughter. Just found this by searching his name on the internet. Do you have memory of him?" -- Carol Chenault Hoberec

    Green Valley Vicinity... "Born in rural Carmen, Green Valley vicinity. Early childhood in Alva -- attended Horace Mann and Longfellow schools." -- Nola Veley Wilkerson - Email:

    Interested in WWII... "I am very interested in the history of the POW camps from WWII, I went to school at Oklahoma State Tech in the early 60's I was always fascinated by it history. At that time there was still some of the walls and gun towers still left. It was a great 2 years when I was there. Where there any books written about the states deep history of involvement in WWII. I have always been interest in the History of WWII. I really injoyed all the work you have done putting so much of its history on the internet. Thank You." -- Bob - Email:
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    Binger, Oklahoma Story

    Vol 8, Iss 35 "Good Morning, Ms Wagner! Writing in "My Ramblins" this morning, I ran across a short story that I had written sometime back concerning Binger, Okla. If I have not sent it to you, would like to do so sometime nearer the Christmas Holidays as it concerns that time of year. Regards." -- Kenneth Updike
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    Old Opera House Mystery - Chronology...

    Vol 8, Iss 18 We have been working slowly to put together a "Chronology" for the "Old Opera House Mystery" for those who are interested. It is a venture in progress. So... bookmark these links for further updates. Thanks! -- NW Okie (a.k.a. Linda McGill Wagner)
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    TODAY'S TIP: GMail Hard Drive Makes Space Available...

    Vol 7, Iss 41 "The two gigabytes of storage you get with a Gmail account seems like an enormous waste of space for just e-mail. You're not likely ever to fill it; were you to come close, Google would no doubt have doubled the space by then. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to use some of that storage for something other than mail? Read today's tip to learn how. For the solution, Click HERE

    [Editor's Note: we still have some Gmail invitations left. If anyone out there wants to try out Gmail, email for an invite to Gmail. Thanks!] View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    Pioneer Frank N. Gray - Enid, OK

    Vol 9, Iss 52 [Information from the Foreward, pg. v, Observation From The Station South of Town - A Quindecennial Chronology, by Robert N. Gray.]

    Frank N. Gray was almost 60 years old when he opened the little "Fillin' Station" along highway 81, between Enid & Waukomis, in Northwest Oklahoma. He had no intention of operating the business himself, but the twists of fate left him straddled with the enterprise. Laid back almost to a fault, he assumed the responsibility and for the next fifteen years toiled by the side of the road being a friend to everyone.

    Frank felt like many others that Enid was the best town in the best county in the best state in the best nation in the world. We are talking, of course, about Enid, Oklahoma, in Garfield County. Frank "Fillin' Station" was halfway between Enid and Waukomis on highway 81.

    Frank Gray took life easy, he was a keen observer of the world scene and maintained a broad interest in events from local to world wide. With his radio and daily newspaper, he kept up with his wide interests, encompassing family, politics, economics, and sporting events, local, state, and national. He visited with all who stopped by his station, and treated them graciously even when they only needed water for their thirsty radiators.

    Frank Gray could talk with his customers at any level on nearly an subject, usually agreeing with them when he found how they felt about things.

    Frank's grandson, Robert N. Gray, mentioned in the book that his grandfather worked by the side of the road, changing tires, filling boiling radiators with free water, putting small amounts of gasoline in cars and occasionally selling a quart of oil. Frank also had available bread, candy and tobacco products, as well as the pop cooler stocked with Coca Cola and Nehi sodas.

    Remember the Nehi grape sodas and the small 6 oz bottles of Coca Cola?

    Old friends and disappointed politicians stopped by continuously to visit with Frank, discussing world affairs, politics and sporting events. Frank was known as "Daddy" Gray, he was a grand old man without an enemy in the world.

    Does anyone out there have any memories of Frank Gray and his "fillin' station" on the crest of the hill along hwy 81 between Enid and Waukomis, Oklahoma? We would love to share them with everyone here at The OkieLegacy.

    The "fillin' station" closed shortly after the declaration of WWII. Frank's wife, Myrtie Bingham, passed away in 1952 and Frank died in September 1966, six months into his 99th year.

    Frank was 25 years of age during the time of the 1893 Cherokee Strip land run. He was eager to make the Run, but he was influenced by his peers who were uninterested and his family was still doubtful of the wisdom of racing into uncivilized land most recently occupied by wild Indians. The soil of his home in Iowa was much more productive than the Oklahoma lands. His family was deeply involved in the local community of Iowa and Frank had a new girl friend, the grand daughter of a prominent Baptist clergyman.

    By the turn of the century, Frank Gray and Myrtie Bingham were married and expecting their third child. Frank managed to save enough money to buy a team of horses, several cows, and several pieces of used farm equipment. The winters in Iowa seemed to become more fierce as the years went by, the local economy was not good. Frank's brother, John, had announced that he wanted to take over the family farm. Myrtie's parents were going to retire and were looking for a warmer climate. Frank's older sister, Alice, was a widow and had expressed an interest in moving to Oklahoma. That is when Frank decided Oklahoma was the place for all of them.

    In the spring of 1900, Frank's father-in-law, Theron Bingham, and Frank boarded a train in Des Moines, Iowa and headed to Enid, Oklahoma. A real estate agent met them at the station and drove them out on the south road about four miles to what they thought was the most beautiful farm they had ever seen. The price back then was $2,250 for a quarter section of land.

    With an August possession date, they hurried back to Iowa and began planning the move. Household goods, along with cattle, horses and machinery, were to be loaded in a box car. Frank was to ride in that car along with the animals. The rest of the family, including Mr. and Mrs. Bingham, Alice Beech and Myrtie and their children were to begin the trip the next day on a passenger train.

    The three room house was determined to be inadequate. As years went by, rooms were added and another story built. By 1910, they had what might have been considered a mansion in earlier times. In 1912, They purchased a large barn which had been used in Enid as a livery stable. They moved it to the farm and placed near the top of the hill. Like the house, the barn could be seen on the horizon for many miles in nearly all directions.

    Frank and Myrtie Gray had nine children and they attended the Valley View grade school and Enid High school. The children were:

  • Edna Mae married John Shields, they had five daughters;
  • percy Harold married Vivian Pfieffer, they had three sons;
  • Wayne Nelson married Alene Jarboe, they had two sons;
  • Teron Ralph married Leta Reynolds, they had two sons, one daughter;
  • Paul John married Helen Franklin, they had two daughters;
  • Gladys Laverne married Leonard Allen, they had one son, one daughter;
  • Glenda Maurine married Leon Halbrook, they had one son, two daughters;
  • Darrel Dean married Irene Harrison, they had one son, two daughters;
  • Ethmer Almeda married Donald Kordis, they had two sons.

  • It was in the mid-1920's when automobiles were chugging past the farm in ever increasing numbers, that Frank decided to build a filling station on the crest of the hill between Enid and Waukomis. His son Paul was interested in running it and as his son Ralph and his son-in-law John Shields.

    If any of this jogs any memory cells of some Northwest Oklahomans, we would love to hear from you. Just email this NW Okie at Thanks!
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    Alva Square Memories

    Vol 10, Iss 10 "The Alva square was home to me for many years. Eating hamburgers in Snyder's Cigar Store was a routine of mine from 1949 until 1955. My folks owned the grocery store next door to Snyder's so it was convenient. The four theaters and the courthouse park were my entertainment.

    Like Bob, my uncle, who was the county sheriff, had an office in the courthouse and I took great pride in introducing my friends to him, he always provided a good show. He'd tell stories about bad guys and show us his pistols, after they were unloaded of course.

    I earned my weekend movie and popcorn money working for my parents stocking shelves and delivering groceries to people that rented apartments around the square. Most buildings had either office accomodations or single family apartments on the second floor.

    Wiebener's Food Market (formerly the L.A. Wagner grocery store, my grandfather) took grocery orders over the phone. An employee would box or bag the order and deliver them in my dad's Jeep. If they were small orders from apartment dwellers I would take the groceries myself. I remember one such customer, a woman with a daughter about my age, who lived above a pool hall across the street north of where the police station is now. I noticed that for some reason we were not delivering groceries to the woman any longer and I asked one of dad's employees what had happened to her. His answer was that she was asked to leave town because of what she did for a living. That went right over my eight year old head.

    Then there was the time I was skating on the frozen fish pond around the base of the fountain in the courthouse park, showing off for Vicki Turner, and fell in. What boys will do to impress the girls. I have great memories of that park, and it is sad to drive by it now and see no one there." -- Marvin Wiebener
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    Alva, OK Snow

    Vol 9, Iss 50 Northwest Oklahoma gets snow this weekend, in Alva, Oklahoma. These photos courtesy of Robert Wagner, at the Corner of 11th & Maple Street. See more of the snow pictures from Alva, Oklahoma over at our OkieLegacy - My Albums folder. -- Robb View/Write Comments (count 1)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    DoubleO Sims Grocery

    Vol 9, Iss 46 "In the 1930's my grandfather owned the L. A. Wagner Cash Grocery in Alva. The store was located on the north side of the square. The name is still visible on the brick front of the old building (704 Flynn I think). My father, Paul Wiebener bought the store from Lee Wagner (his father-in-law) after he returned from WWII. Paul and Veva Wiebener operated the store until 1955. Safeway, and Humbty Dumpty (Chain stores) came to Alva and eventually all the smaller stores went out of business. I think at the time there were at least four grocery stores around the square and two neighborhood grocery stores, one on Church St. (Barr's grocery) and another on the west side of town. Wiebener's Grocery used to deliver, they also extended credit to townspeople, as I''m sure most of the mom & pop smaller stores did. When the chain stores came to Alva, with cheaper prices, folks began shopping there, which eventually lead to the small stores demise. After my parents died (77 & 78) I cleaned out their garage in preparation to sell the house. I found boxes of unpaid charge tickets. Too bad." -- Marvin Wiebener - Double Sims Grocery Comment
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    Chicken with Ripe Olive and Pepper Salsa...

    Vol 6, Iss 13 A friend visiting the web page of the West Texas Food Bank has asked us to forward the following recipe to you. Chicken with ripe Olive and Pepper Salsa To view the recipe, please visit: Please forward this email to your colleages and encourage them visit our website and Help Feed Hope -- Fight Hunger in West Texas. -- Michael Wagner, Chief Technology Architect - West Texas Food Bank View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    A Prairie of Dreams (Castles of NW Oklahoma)...

    Vol 8, Iss 13 by - LK Wagner

    "If you can imagine it, you can achieve it. If you can dream it, you can become it." -- William Arthur Ward. Another saying I like is, "If you build your prairie of dreams (your Castle on the Hill), they will come!"

    We all have dreams! All we need is the determination and support to carry out some of those dreams. What if our ancestors had not followed their prairie of dreams to the new world? What would life have been like back in January, 1895 if the pioneers of the growing city of Alva and the county of "M" (Woods, Alfalfa and Major) in this northwest Oklahoma territory had not had their dream of a Northwestern State Normal School and the determination of a community to accomplish that dream?

    There would have been NO unique and splendid "Castle on the Hill" March 12, 1897 that stood until March 1, 1935 when it was ravished completely by fire. One of those dreamers was James E. Ament who helped structure the architectural outline of the Norhtwestern Normal school building after the outlines of the Norman Castles of France that he loved so much. Ament was the first President of Northwestern State Normal College when he came to Alva in September 20, 1897.

    It took the support and organization of the Commercial Club of businessmen and citizens of the community to unite and "Push" for the lobby of the bill through the State Legislature from January, 1895 to March 12, 1897. After much maneuvering on both sides, Governor Renfrew reluctantly signed the bill granting a Normal School for this determined community of Alva, Oklahoma.

    While the committee was faced with several long, maneuvering and bitter fights lobbying the legislature, the citizens back home were gathering land and finances. They were beginning to build on their dream. That is how determined they were to fulfill their dreams of higher education in this growing farming town and county of "M" in Oklahoma territory. They had a dream and as a community they came together to build it.

    For more details concerning the "Castle on the Hill", you may go to my Okie Legacy web site at Building of the Northwestern Normal School and read more about it.

    The early morning hours of March 1, 1935, Friday, will live in infamy for many of the Old Timers of this NW Oklahoma community. That is when their beloved "Castle on the Hill" burned down. The cause of the fire has been largely a matter of speculation ranging from faulty electrical wiring -- To spontaneous combustion in a janitor's closet -- To a carelessly tossed cigarette.

    From a journal that my Grandpa McGill kept this is what he wrote March 1, 1935 -- "The old Administration building burned down -- Boy! Was everybody sick! March 14, 1935 -- $300,000 passed by both houses to rebuild. Only 4 opposition -- Parade by everybody at noon, March 14, 1935."

    The pioneers of the growing city of Alva and county of "M" (Woods, Alfalfa and Major) in Oklahoma territory had their prairie of dreams. One of those dreams was to see their children educated. They set their goal to build their "Castle on the Hill" for themselves, their children and their children's children. It began with 166 students in September, 1897 and grew to 2,000 students in 1999. They accomplished their prairie of dreams with the pioneer spirit and determination that drove so many to this new land of opportunities -- And they came in droves from the eastern and western seaboards and across the oceans for a new beginning.

    Don't give up on your dreams. Where would we be if our pioneers had given up on their dreams. There may be times that you take a step back, but there will always be times when you take two steps forward to seeing your dreams fulfilled. What we need is more dreamers and people with determination to ease and move us progessively forward in the evolution of our life.
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    Early NW Oklahoma Stores & Memorable People

    Vol 10, Iss 18 In Walter T. Eason's bio for the northwest history book, we ran across the following mention of early stores in Alva, Oklahoma such as: "The Wagner Grocery, Eutsler Grocery, The Tea Store, Sears Bootery, Meixner Bakery, Howard Grocery, Sonderys Livery Stable, Crowell Lumber and Coal Yard, Shaefers Leather Shop, Reed's Poultry and Cream.

    Eason, Jr., who wrote the bio for the pioneer footprints history book, mentioned some of the people he would never forget. Such as: "Bob Kirkbride, Cliff Ward, Herb Gold, Elisha Barker, Scott Cummins (the Pilgrim Bard), Scotty Schroff and Karl Sanderson." He also wrote, "I think people were happier and more contented in those days. I know they had more time for each other."
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    John James & Mary Markvicka Hurt...

    Vol 6, Iss 17 Their son, Joseph P. Hurt (my G-Grandpa), was born September 1856, married his first wife in 1879, Anna Wallman (born 1865, Bohemia (my G-Grandma )). He married his second wife in 1909, Hannah Alice Marsh Kachel.
            John and Mary's other children: Anna Hurt - b. 1862, Bohemia, m: Buresh; John Hurt - b. 1867, Bohemia; Frank Hurt -  b. 1868, Chesamf, Bohemia, m: (22 yrs of age) 11 Feb 1890, Maggie Szkudlacek (19), Nebraska (Clara Hurt Case's father); Barbara Hurt - b. 1869, Bohemia, m: Jos. S. Bukowski; Anton Hurt - b. 1873, Ujezdec, Bohemia; m: 21 Feb 1895 , Nebraska, Cecilia Shebeski (19); Mary Hurt - m: Wasielewki.
            Joseph and Anna Hurt -- Joseph married Anna Wallman and they had seven (7) children (5 girls and 2 boys) before Anna died in 1902. This information came from Joseph's and Mary Barbara Hurt's death certificates and from information received from Ersel Hedrick, Alice Shook's granddaughter and Vernon Case.
          The Children of Joseph & Anna listed below:
    1. John Hurt - b. Sept. 1880, Nebraska; married Clara Kachel. They had three (3) children;
    2. Jospeh "Joe" Hurt - b. Mar. 1885, Nebraska;   married Anna (?). They had one (1) child;
    3. Carrie Hurt - b. Jan 1887, Nebraska; married James Holub. Eight 8 children;
    4. Matilda "Tillie" Hurt - b. Mar. 1888, Nebraska; married Martin Hamilton;
    5. Emma Hurt - b. Aug 1889, Nebraska; married Sam Louthan. Six 6 children;
    6. Mary Barbara Hurt - b. 1893; married Ernest Claude Paris (my grandparents). Nine (9) children;
    7. Lucy Hurt - b. May 1899, Nebraska; married Cary Pope. Three (3) children.
    -- Courtesy of, The Hurt legacy & Linda "Oakie" Wagner View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    L. A. Wagner Cash Grocery - Alva, OK

    Vol 10, Iss 10 "I believe that the last owners of the grocery store was Paul and Veva Wiebner. We shopped there 1948 thru early 1950s." -- Marthesia (Marty) Myers - Okielegacy comment

    "My father, Paul Wiebener, returned home from WWII in 1946. He and my mother (Veva) bought the store from mother's dad, L.A. Wagner, and operated it until 1955. It was about that time some of the larger grocery chains entered the Alva market, making it difficult for mom and pop stores to compete. My dad had an acquaintance operating a grocery store in Aspen, Colorado and he invited our family to move there and manage the store. We did, but were back in Alva in little over a year. We were flat-landers not mountain people, and although we had a great time and I have lots of memories, Alva was our home." -- Marvin Wiebener - Email: - OkieLegacy Comment
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    July 1935, News - Mary Eggstein's Pre-Nuptials...

    Vol 7, Iss 20 Miss Mary Eggstein Is Pre-Nuptially Honored -- "As a prenuptial courtesy to Miss Mary Eggstein, whose marriage to LeRoy Gatz is to be an event of the near future, a miscellaneous shower was given recently by Mrs. Philip Eggstein and Mrs. Belle Ring at the home of the former.
          Misses Vernida Margaret and Lenora Wagner and Miss Rita May Ring presented the many lovely gifts to the bride-elect. AT the conclusion of the entertainment, pie, sandwiches and lemon and orange drinks were served.
          The guest list included Mrs. Clay Howard, Mrs. FAy Quast, Mrs. Joe Vondraecek, Mrs. Ella Benjamin, Mrs. Lydia EAgner, Mrs. Ed Heaton, Mrs. Leo Ring, Mrs. Bill Ring and children, Mrs. Euna Reicker, Mrs. Charles McHugh, Mrs. Ida Wagner and daughters, Lenora and Vernida, Mrs. May Brock, Mrs. Margaret Wagner and daughter, patty Ann, Mrs. Millie Schwerdtfeger, Mrs. Walter Kunzman, Mrs. Bill Quast, Mrs. Fred Ring and children, Mrs. Tony Ring and children
          Mrs. Vincen Ring, Mrs. Fred Gatz, Mrs. Lester Blue, Mrs. rickman, Mrs. John Eggstein, Miss Bailing, Esta Belle Brickman, Naomia Ricker, Miss Bertha Wagner, Clara and Rena Gatz, Neva and Roda Wagner, Rozella Benjamin and Minnie and Lula Rea." View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

    King Parrot Brand, etc...

    Vol 8, Iss 1 "This Link will take you to a page in which is shown there exists a spice tin, apparently branded King Parrot, with Anthony and those other Oklahoma towns mentioned on it. Perhaps you can contact the web site owner for more information. This is in response to Linda Wagner's query regarding the matter. My parents were living in Grant Co., Ok when I was born, but I was born in Anthony, KS. We had ancestors in the Woods Co., OK area. I only visited Anthony a couple of times in my adult life." -- Charlie Cook in Louisiana Bayou Country View/Write Comments (count 1)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe


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